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quote:Although he was under contract at Chelsea, Bogarde lived in his penthouse in Amsterdam. "I would fly in every morning, and I was never late to training," he recalls.
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:How long is a helicopter flight from Amsterdam to London Even a fast military chopper only cruises at 120kts, civilian ones normally cruise around 100, so about three and a half hours excluding travel both ends. As Battersea heliport, quite near Chelsea, doesn't take international arrivals he'd have to land at London City or Stapleford, so add at least an hour to get across London. Private jet works out a bit better - Schiphol to London City is 45 minutes - but again that's still an hour in London traffic plus however long it takes to get to Schiphol. Also you're looking at about £10k in airport fees *per day* before you even get into the cost of running the jet itself. e: Because I just can't stop myself, here's some cutting-edge back-of-the-fag-packet calculations: Helicopter works out at £10k - and 7 hours travel - a day, and that's assuming he can just land it in his back garden. Plane works out at £16k and 3 hours travel per day, assuming he's willing to slum it in a taxi at either end. Obviously doing it on commercial flights into LCY is much cheaper, about £800/day, but then you have to add at least an extra hour and a half onto the travel each day. goddamnedtwisto fucked around with this message at 20:24 on Apr 30, 2020 |
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Apr 30, 2020 20:01
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greazeball posted:They could have just bought him out for $6 mil but they're paying him $25 mil instead. That seems... bad? Deferred money is still money, it's not worthless. The idea is you use that 6 million for other purposes. The article says they discounted it 8% a year (a reasonable amount). 1 million for 25 years, discounting 8% is about 10 million in present value. They took that 6 million and gave it to Madoff because he promised year over year gains of 14%. That 6m would be worth 158 million in 25 years, giving it a present value of ~23 million (using the same 8% discount rate). Deferring money is really common in baseball for the above reason. I'm a huge loving nerd. Don't put your money in ponzi schemes.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:Even a fast military chopper only cruises at 120kts, civilian ones normally cruise around 100, so about three and a half hours excluding travel both ends. As Battersea heliport, quite near Chelsea, doesn't take international arrivals he'd have to land at London City or Stapleford, so add at least an hour to get across London. The aviation man I’m going to go out on a limb and say that Winston Bogarde did in fact live in London at least on the weekdays
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:The aviation man Yeah, also I forgot that of course the team don't train at Stamford Bridge, they train at Cobham which is even further out of London. Biggin Hill is about an hour away though, so the calculations still work out about the same (cheaper fees at Biggin Hill though).
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Antonio Donnarumma gets paid a million euros a year because he is related to Gigio Donnarumma. That’s literally the only reason why. He is most certainly the highest paid third choice goalkeeper in serie a history. He did stop an inter penalty in a derby cup match that we win 1-0 though so that was good.
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Apr 30, 2020 22:26
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Bogarde is a legend imo 
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Gigi Galli posted:Antonio Donnarumma gets paid a million euros a year because he is related to Gigio Donnarumma. That’s literally the only reason why. He is most certainly the highest paid third choice goalkeeper in serie a history. True but Antonio's about as good/bad as any other third choice keeper and a million a year is a dirt cheap price to keep Gigio happy e: Antonio's the older brother right? Pretty soon he'll be the highest paid U23 goalkeeping coach in whatever division Gigio is playing in by then
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Apr 30, 2020 23:34
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sassassin posted:The failure documentaries (Sunderland, Leeds) are way better than watching the big sides suck themselves off and pretend a £50m fullback getting injured is some serious drama. That Man City one is loving horrific, just puffing themselves up as the greatest ever when they can’t even defend the league or get to the champions league semis. Apart from anything else they’re released far too late after the season in question, it’s hard to get onto anything when the season has recently passed, you can remember how it turned out and you know what happens. Maybe they’d be better in 10+ years. Same with the NFL ones from the same production team - you know drat well that the team were poo poo, did nothing. Hard Knocks at least has some real stakes for the players who get cut, and is only a week or two out of date. Haha, Leeds.
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Apr 30, 2020 23:48
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can't wait for newcastle to do all the football price crimes and win the league and be smug about it
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Eric the Mauve posted:True but Antonio's about as good/bad as any other third choice keeper and a million a year is a dirt cheap price to keep Gigio happy Yeah Antonio is older. From the 180 minutes or so he’s played the past 3 years he actually hasn’t been as bad as I thought he would be. Could be as early as next year if there’s a full season being played anywhere.
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May 1, 2020 00:00
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Whose the Italian GK who barely played and got sent off as a sub?
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big crush on Chad OMG posted:Whose the Italian GK who barely played and got sent off as a sub? Tommaso Berni; he’s got more red cards than appearances for Inter.
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Gigi Galli posted:Tommaso Berni; he’s got more red cards than appearances for Inter. This guy is my hero, professional footballer with 6 league appearances in 10 years, none in the last 7.
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lads https://houseofsaud.com/brotherly-relations-between-uk-and-saudi-arabia-newcastle-takeover/ LADS https://twitter.com/HRHPSAUDS/following ashley is finally loving off
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and yes i do get all my news from twitter, what of it?
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wooger posted:Hard Knocks at least has some real stakes for the players who get cut, and is only a week or two out of date. It would be interesting to see a documentary about the youth teamers at a club when they are competing for professional contract. It wouldn't have the drama of hard knocks but that would be the closest thing.
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dave kitson was planning to run for the PFA chief exec role for over a year when everyone piled onto him instantly after announcing it. he is also the secret footballer but i think people here knew that https://twitter.com/RustyRoyal/status/1256181727170527232?s=20 https://twitter.com/alanrog3/status/1256122215772323840?s=20
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May 1, 2020 14:24
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I don’t think that’s racist it’s just lovely bants. He does it with the white players too
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Imagine being so mentally ill that you make an anonymous Twitter account to launch paper-thin accusations at people that are doing something with their lives
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Weaponized Cum posted:Imagine being so mentally ill that you make an anonymous Twitter account to launch paper-thin accusations at people that are doing something with their lives Is this some new definition of "anonymous" the kids are using
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kcer posted:lads and another finger on the monkey paw curls
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I bet this ends with Newcastle fans complaining that their oligarch is worse than the other oligarchs.
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FWIW in my Football Manager save Newcastle got bought by a sugar daddy Arab and ran up the highest wage bills in the world for 8 years and never won jackshit, then got nailed with FFP violations and sold off. e: and Sunderland was in the 7th tier last I checked.
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greazeball posted:They could have just bought him out for $6 mil but they're paying him $25 mil instead. That seems... bad? Deferred money is still money, it's not worthless. Ungratek is mostly right about how this works out, but a million dollars is still what an average quality relief pitcher makes in MLB during their first arbitration years (4th "full year" in the top league, baseball salary structure is byzantine). He's entirely right that the Mets ownership, clowns that they are, put all their money into Madoff and went bust when Madoff did. They still somehow own the team, to all of us Mets fan's chagrin. Ungratek posted:Deferring money is really common in baseball for the above reason. This is the only thing I disagree with- deferring money wasn't nearly as common back when the Bonilla agreement happened. And a lot of teams stay away from doing it now, in large part because the Mets are shelling out $1m in nigh perpetuity for a guy who's been retired for 20 years. A few teams do it all the time, though. The Washington Nationals have close to a couple hundred million dollars of salary deferred between their top two starting pitchers. In 2027 and 2028 the Nationals will be paying $15m in deferred salary to Max Scherzer and $26.6m in deferred salary to Stephen Strasburg. Their total payroll this past year was about $200m. My understanding is that the Nats do this because their owner is a 94 year old megabillionaire who wanted to see a world series championship in his lifetime. Which he got! Who cares what salaries are due when he'd be 102 years old? Can you imagine pro football teams trying to pull this off, though? The financial catastrophes would be worth the price of admission. fake edit: Holy poo poo, Bruce Sutter's still getting paid over a million a year by the Atlanta Braves? He hasn't played in a game since the 1980s!
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habeasdorkus posted:My understanding is that the Nats do this because their owner is a 94 year old megabillionaire who wanted to see a world series championship in his lifetime. Which he got! Who cares what salaries are due when he'd be 102 years old? Can you imagine pro football teams trying to pull this off, though? The financial catastrophes would be worth the price of admission. He gave Strasburg his megacontract after they won a championship, though! The teams that were owned by Mike Ilitch (Detroit Tigers and Red Wings) are a huge cautionary tale, though. As soon as the ancient sugar daddy died those teams loving cratered.
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habeasdorkus posted:Ungratek is mostly right about how this works out, but a million dollars is still what an average quality relief pitcher makes in MLB during their first arbitration years (4th "full year" in the top league, baseball salary structure is byzantine). He's entirely right that the Mets ownership, clowns that they are, put all their money into Madoff and went bust when Madoff did. They still somehow own the team, to all of us Mets fan's chagrin. Goddamn quote:As The Athletic’s Dan Lewis reported, the Braves are still paying former reliever Bruce Sutter, who played with the Braves from 1985 to 1988. The 1979 NL Cy Young Winner signed a six-year, $9.1 million deal with the Braves before the 1985 season, but Sutter opted to have the money deferred. quote:Those payments of $750,000 during his playing career and the $1.12 million that followed are only interest payments, Lewis points out. That means in 2022, the Braves still owe Sutter the $9.1 million that he deferred. quote:“In total, Sutter will earn north of $45 million for his three years being terrible as a member of the Atlanta Braves.” His original contract was $9.1 million for six years and he retired four years into it lol
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Bobby Digital posted:Goddamn Now that's moneyball!
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Eau de MacGowan posted:i have no idea who bruce sutter is but he loving rules He was a real good relief pitcher in the late 1970s and early 1980s. That contract was still insane at the time, $1.5m a year in 1985 made him the 5th or 6th highest paid player in the game at the time. And he was TERRIBLE for Atlanta. Under replacement level (replacement level = whichever rando you call up from the minors for the league minimum wage of $60,000/year. Sutter, earning one of the fattest contracts, was worse than that). This is probably still one of the very worst contracts ever. I can't believe I wasn't loving told about this! I don't feel shame about Bobby Bonilla anymore!
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interview with an anonymous premier league player here who reckons that the league will restart in september because playing behind closed doors is a no go for all sorts of reasons and thats when the crunch time for money is likely to be combined with covid cases having dropped enough to get the public on board https://www.football365.com/news/back-septemvber-coronavirus-anonymous-footballer
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according to the athletic utd have largely stopped looking for a director of football, because sir alex didn't need one so why would ole?quote:Principally, the status of the manager is paramount and the club want to stay close to the level of authority Sir Alex Ferguson maintained. Ole Gunnar Solskjaer’s line to Ed Woodward will always be direct, rather than bisected by another individual. Their relationship is described as “vital”. https://theathletic.com/1790691/2020/05/04/manchester-united-directoroffootball-woodward/
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Cool so the ongoing United plan is 'wait for another one in a million manager to come along and superhero the club to success,' I'm sure one will be along directly.
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He's already here mate
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Bundy posted:He's already here mate I've heard he's at the wheel
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Weedle posted:according to the athletic utd have largely stopped looking for a director of football, because sir alex didn't need one so why would ole? Ugh. I'm not in the least surprised but still. Uuuuuuuuuuuughh.
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This amazon Leeds series is over-produced and dumb but I’m here for the tears at the end 
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rear end cobra posted:This amazon Leeds series is over-produced and dumb but I’m here for the tears at the end It’s good and I can’t wait for season 2 when they void the league
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rear end cobra posted:This amazon Leeds series is over-produced and dumb but I’m here for the tears at the end Same
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