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Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.

Grand Fromage posted:

Cheese often (but not always) requires a trip to an actual supermarket, but milk's popular and in every store. Milk is pushed heavily on kids in China especially.

...with frequently explosive results, given the prevalence of lactose intolerance.

Toilets can sound like someone trying to start a chainsaw after a winter of neglect.


Edit: welcome to a fresh new page with this delightful imagery.

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WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
And I'd just eaten lunch, argh.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

WarpedNaba posted:

Ain't that been supplanted by Veganism in the quackery department?

It's quite possible to be a vegan without being obnoxious about it - a few years ago I moved in to a share house with a young couple and didn't realise they were vegans for about a week, until I offered to share some stew I'd made.

You won't know someone's a vegan unless they tell you, so the only vegans you notice are the in-your-face type.

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost
i feel like there is deffo money to be made in mass selling marketing etc lactaid to east asian peeps

we are like a third east asian peeps at work (sf bay area) and we had company bought lactaid pills along w the usual computer toucher snacks at the office, before the quarantine

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
My experience in Japan was that nobody even knew the term for lactose or lactose intolerance (乳糖不耐症) but the supermarkets stocked plenty of lactose-free milk with labels like "milk for those with rumbling stomachs" (牛乳でお腹ゴロゴロする人へ). I guess it's not a big deal for them because generally Japanese adults don't consume milk in sufficient quantity to get the worst effects - even a completely intolerant adult should be able to stand a small cup of milk without cramping and diarrhea.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


I asked a couple times but nobody I talked to had ever heard of lactose intolerance, they just thought having stomach trouble was what happens to everyone when consuming milk. Sure you fart a bunch but milk makes your boobs grow, so it's worth it!

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...

Nothingtoseehere posted:

I don't have many pictures, and the exhibit wasn't well labelled. IIRC this was part of a loving huge set of scrolls made for the imperial court some time during the Qing of 'different foreigners and their traits' - I can't remember more details than that or a more precise time period. Most of them didn't stand out to me or I didn't recognize, but there was one group that stood out



3 Groups of white people which I immediately assigned to British, French, and Russians. No clue who the black people in the fourth picture represent but that's clearly european clothing.



A close up on the British, with some chinese text if we've got any historians brave enough to try translating.

im genuinely curious if anyone knows where the dark skinned diplomats are from

at least I assume they are diplomats

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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India perhaps?

Alan Smithee
Jan 4, 2005


A man becomes preeminent, he's expected to have enthusiasms.

Enthusiasms, enthusiasms...
with those bare shoulders? The only religion 2nd to conservatism in that regard after Islam is Hinduism

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!
clothes are pretty western, europeans would've been trading up and down that region... indonesia?

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Alan Smithee posted:

im genuinely curious if anyone knows where the dark skinned diplomats are from

Maybe they're Dutch.

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ

Megillah Gorilla posted:

Maybe they're Dutch.

The blackface certainly fits

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
If meat (or milk) aren't good for you, then how come they're food?

Nucken Futz
Oct 30, 2010

by Reene

screamin and creamin posted:

If meat (or milk) aren't good for you, then how come they're food?

Tough questions deserve tough answers

GotLag
Jul 17, 2005

食べちゃダメだよ
If it's tough you haven't cooked it properly

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

Fojar38 posted:

I get wanting to abstain from eating meat but I've never understood wanting to abstain from stuff like milk, a food substance that if everyone stopped eating would consign billions of dairy cattle to excruciating deaths

Wouldn't that only happen if everyone suddenly went vegan all at once. A sudden hundred percent decrease in demand for milk? Cows only live like 20 years tops so as long as people stop drinking it over a period of time longer than that, whatever.

Milk is great though and you can get raw milk super easy in China, so I'm not gonna stop drinking it at least. They can just sell it all to me I guess keep the cows busy and not dead.

Fur20
Nov 14, 2007

すご▞い!
君は働か░い
フ▙▓ズなんだね!

BrainDance posted:

Milk is great though and you can get raw milk super easy in China, so I'm not gonna stop drinking it at least. They can just sell it all to me I guess keep the cows busy and not dead.

wow this sounds like it couldn't possibly go pear shaped

BrainDance
May 8, 2007

Disco all night long!

i guess only time will tell!

Horatius Bonar
Sep 8, 2011

The White Dragon posted:

wow this sounds like it couldn't possibly go pear shaped

Considering the mainland's track record with regular milk this is actually the safer bet.

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

Shadow0 posted:

I remember my vegetarian friends struggled a lot in Japan. This happened a lot:

👩: "Is there meat in this dish? I can't eat meat. No meat."
👩‍🍳: "*Confused looked* ...No, no meat!"
👩: "Okay, I'll take this then."
...
👩: "This has meat in it! It has pork!"
👩‍🍳: "Pork is meat?! 🤯"

This is especially baffling because the words are 肉 and 豚肉. :doh:

Apparently 肉 can be interpreted as "[cow] meat" despite 牛肉 also being a common word, but I don't know.

It doesn't get interpreted as "cow"; the issue is misunderstanding of "a meat dish" versus "having meat in it". Like if you said in English "I think I want meat for dinner tonight" you wouldn't generally go and get a salad with a few bacon pieces in it. It has meat in it, but it's not "meat" if if you will. In context people are generally thinking that you have no idea at all what something is and are asking if it's a meat dish. If you can ask in Japanese specifically if there's any meat at all in something because you have moral objections to any consumption of meat *at all* they'll understand, and generally know, though since it's not a common thing to ask in Japan some waiters may not know offhand the specifics because they don't make food and it's not something they generally have in mind, unlike in other countries with more vegetarians.

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
hello comrades, just wanted to check in and make sure that everyone is doing their part to decenter eurocentrism today, and working hard to not only dismantle but completely extinguish white supremacy and western hegemony in every aspect of their daily lives. keep fighting the good fight!!

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy
wait a minute, this isn't C-SPAM

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

screamin and creamin posted:

If meat (or milk) aren't good for you, then how come they're food?

Bu wei shen me :xd:

LimburgLimbo
Feb 10, 2008

The Great Autismo! posted:

hello comrades, just wanted to check in and make sure that everyone is doing their part to decenter eurocentrism today, and working hard to not only dismantle but completely extinguish white supremacy and western hegemony in every aspect of their daily lives. keep fighting the good fight!!

Unironically yeah pretty much

Mr. Smile Face Hat
Sep 15, 2003

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy
So I'm thinking y'all are making valid points but in any event fish isn't meat, so it's definitely vegetarian if not vegan.

Squalid
Nov 4, 2008

The White Dragon posted:

wow this sounds like it couldn't possibly go pear shaped

funny he mentions it now. Inspired by recent events, I just finished reading a book called Deadliest Enemy: Our War Against Killer Germs by a former CDC guy. In it he describes an epidemic of debilitating diarrhea that afflicted a small community in rural Missouri. There was one guy who had it for something like 18 months, and he lost like 30 lb (as an old man) at first he was pooping so much. He couldn't go out and do anything. The CDC was never able to even determine what kind of infection it was, in fact they were never even able to confirm it WAS an infection. However the one thing everybody who got it had in common was that it turned out they were all surreptitiously buying raw milk from a single local dairy. When they shut down the illicit milk distributors the outbreak stopped.

Just in case anyone was wondering why we pasteurize milk in the first place, there you go.

Also the book was last revised in like 2018 and the author, Michael T. Osterholm, describes a epidemic planning scenario in which an air born virus appears and southern china before infecting the rest of the world and triggering mass ventilator shortages among other things. LOL, literally every professional saw coronavirus coming from a mile away. The only part he got wrong is that he thought the American President would be DIScouraging the public from trying weird and dangerous pseudoscientific cures, rather than promoting quack medicine from the Oval office.

Atopian
Sep 23, 2014

I need a security perimeter with Venetian blinds.
Yeah, coronaviridae are well known for jumping out and killing people.
Back when I was a real person and working in virology, in slow news months I'd just find someone to write up another "but when is the next one due?" piece.

The unpredictability and potential severity meant that the topic never really got old. Just, politicians have this thing where they hate listening to doctors and scientists with integrity, because unless you get new evidence, it's difficult to negotiate with facts.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

The Great Autismo! posted:

hello comrades, just wanted to check in and make sure that everyone is doing their part to decenter eurocentrism today, and working hard to not only dismantle but completely extinguish white supremacy and western hegemony in every aspect of their daily lives. keep fighting the good fight!!

I'm glad to see you're back from your camping trip in Xinjiang.

WarpedNaba
Feb 8, 2012

Being social makes me swell!
Greetings, Comrade Autismo.

Have you had a preferential teaching of correct thought? You are sure you no longer express dissent in ways, means or directions contrary to the demands of the all-knowing mods?

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

screamin and creamin posted:

So I'm thinking y'all are making valid points but in any event fish isn't meat, so it's definitely vegetarian if not vegan.

In Korea fish (물고기) translates literally to water (물) meat (고기).

The Great Autismo!
Mar 3, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

LimburgLimbo posted:

Unironically yeah pretty much

hope Xi sees this bro

GoutPatrol
Oct 17, 2009

*Stupid Babby*

Dont Touch ME posted:

Bu wei shen me :xd:

沒有, not 不

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

No no, I needed to use the meme phrase.

Rime
Nov 2, 2011

by Games Forum

Alan Smithee posted:

im genuinely curious if anyone knows where the dark skinned diplomats are from

at least I assume they are diplomats


100% those are Portugese or Moorish Spaniards, the clothes give it away and they started trading with China in the 1500's.

Rime fucked around with this message at 15:00 on May 4, 2020

Dont Touch ME
Apr 1, 2018

Moortuguese

Bum the Sad
Aug 25, 2002
Probation
Can't post for 6 days!
Hell Gem

Atopian posted:

...with frequently explosive results, given the prevalence of lactose intolerance.

Kids should be just fine, we all start out tolerant. Though the term lactose intolerance is kind of a misnomer, lactose intolerance in adulthood is the normal human condition (if you go by the numbers). The real condition is “lactase persistence.” Statistically people who still make lactase to break down lactose in adulthood are the weird ones, that gene is “supposed to” switch off.

Lactase Persistence is a mutation that is super prevalent amongst Northern Europeans and appears in varying lesser amounts all over the world (usually higher in herding cultures)

naughty joystick
Jun 6, 2011

Alan Smithee posted:

im genuinely curious if anyone knows where the dark skinned diplomats are from

at least I assume they are diplomats


The text just describes "slaves of foreigners" in a catchall sense, Dutch was mentioned in the passage but without further emphasis. the cultural bureau of macau has a fantastic writeup complete with individual photos and english translation if anyone want to burn some ‘rona time

Here's some more photos from the (same?) exhibition from the national palace museum, including similar scrolls done with population and ethnic minorities around China

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

My home city, to which I willreturn in a couple of weeks.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-04...4qgI3SxiX-Hv5LY

Keeping it classy.

some_admin
Oct 11, 2011

Grimey Drawer
Dumb question, I asked my wife to buy “Pearl River” brand soy sauce @ giant Asian grocery (because my Chinese room mate 25 years ago swore by it) she came home with something indeed branded “Pearl river” but it is DARK DARK DARK, a little thick, and smells/tastes slightly smoky. Along with this, the soy flavor I’m used to is lacking, and it seems like I have to use a lot. So my stir fry & fried rice are incredibly dark appearance.
Is smoked soy sauce a thing?

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Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Probably, but what you got is dark soy sauce. Mostly used for coloring, usually you use a tiny bit of that along with regular light soy sauce.

I like aged Kimlan soy sauce for a Chinese light soy.

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