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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Where are the cop songs, here's some Leftover Crack:

Burn Them Prisons

So You Want To Be A Cop

Let us take a solemn oath that, come what may, we will not submit to this law

Gang Control

One Dead Cop

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
Violators had a song about the '81 riots in Britain. another blue bastard has just gone down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMWJXWrenm0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_England_riots

the Violators are also the band that produced the best ever punk synopsis of the movie "the Warriors"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LZDifWS10

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

uber_stoat posted:

Violators had a song about the '81 riots in Britain. another blue bastard has just gone down!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMWJXWrenm0
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1981_England_riots

the Violators are also the band that produced the best ever punk synopsis of the movie "the Warriors"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4LZDifWS10

:eyepop: this is sick

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

that was mostly to the first song though. the last one isn't better than blitz, imo

Paddyo
Aug 3, 2007

Literally A Person posted:

Seriously the best live show in underground music.

Oh hell yeah. Caught them at the Showbox in Seattle a couple years ago. One of the best shows I've ever seen.

[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8djXmsu53k][/url]

Dell_Zincht
Nov 5, 2003



Has anyone posted this yet because uh...if not they should have

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvOIOu58Skw

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Terrible glam? Sure:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c6bUMHXN4So

Snow Cone Capone
Jul 31, 2003


Folk punk? ok!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1c47nOdypHk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCbjc2LvxHA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIr0I3ln7jA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_5JQLUyuJ0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P92SB9lGg_E

ProperCauldron
Oct 11, 2004

nah chill
I've been trying to read Please Kill Me and it has been rough because it confirms what I've always suspected... every member of every famous heyday punk band was a woman-abusing spoiled rich kid suburbanite fashion punk

BrigadierSensible
Feb 16, 2012

I've got a pocket full of cheese🧀, and a garden full of trees🌴.

Some punk bands from my youth, (early 90s), and geographic region, (Australia) that haven't been mentioned yet:

Frenzal Rhomb - A lot of fun to see live, and they picked a fight with Jackie O and Kyle Sandilands. WHich is always cool.

BodyJar - Not as hardcore as any of the others mentioned, but I liked them.

The Meanies - A little earlier than my time as a punk teen, but still a fun band. A little like the Ramones insomuch as they learned 3 chords, played them fast, and stopped at that.

Nancy Vandal - Disregarding TISM, (who are most certainly not "punk", and about whom there was a rumour going around my school that our year 10 maths teacher was the bassist), my favourite band of all time. A heap of fun to see live, they have never taken themselves too seriously, always rocked hard, and have silly album names to boot. I got my arse signed by the horn section of this band once, and on a separate occasion talked with the trombonist for 20 odd minutes about David Lee Roth, Chevey Chase movies, and cocaine. Coz I am cool like that.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



ProperCoochie posted:

I've been trying to read Please Kill Me and it has been rough because it confirms what I've always suspected... every member of every famous heyday punk band was a woman-abusing spoiled rich kid suburbanite fashion punk

Without even looking it up I can immediately tell from your description that this book was written by Americans. Listen, I know there have been garage rock bands playing 'proto-punk' since 1937 or whatever (and what about the Ramones?? etc), but to me the first proper punk was made by British working-class kids who picked up random instruments and proceeded to play them horribly, after seeing the Sex Pistols live. Boots, mohawks and/or braces. I know, I despise Brits as much as the next guy, but it has to be said.

You have forced my hand, I will now post some classic British punk and Oi! generally from 1977-83 (the UK Subs and the Violators on this page were a good start). For the most part, they were also horrible people, but for entirely different reasons.

Abrasive Wheels:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0hhgJ1bo_EI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_xls53OOnU

Angelic Upstarts:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqbsW5hE8v8

^ Another timely song, Liddle Towers was murdered by the police (spoilers)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gtZE4vL88j4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFBOklPxv8k

4 Skins:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9czHiUlxqCY

Do you remember the days in 69?
Seeing all the skinheads standing in a line
Foaming at the mouth, Waiting for a fight
High boots, cropped hair, what a fuckin sight

^ We've probably all heard this song or a cover of it somewhere, it's profoundly dumb in many ways, but the catchy aggro can't be denied.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oxicw1-7dOw

Blitz:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_a_HhPJhmME

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=skHEnHY5NGY

^ You'd recognize that bassline at the start anywhere

Cock Sparrer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZVtb_y9TwU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G7Wy9oUD-DM

Cockney Rejects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_riKXE86Nlk

^ I've always felt like this is the unofficial Oi! anthem, appropriately titled Oi Oi Oi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWnUNp8QEpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lREDv6uU7o

^ Continuing with the police theme

Crass:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Srkm5oWFwiQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8lZUxHX8e8

GBH:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSR7_aR2VhI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGlRSYU2ais

Red Alert:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRW5vKTDZD4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TdjIXPkRqzk

Sham 69:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQMIXGRjaw

^ You all know this one, was also covered by a bunch of bands including 7 Seconds and Rancid. Sing along!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OS6me3rTNM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9qgQDXKJbo

Stiff Little Fingers:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4C5e346QvRQ

^ Seems like an upbeat little song until you realize it was written at the height of the Troubles. Always had a soft spot for this one.

What we need
Is an Alternative Ulster
Grab it and change it, it's yours
Get an Alternative Ulster
Ignore the bores and their laws
Get an Alternative Ulster
Be an anti-security force
Alter your native Ulster
Alter your native land

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pbxsn8wAIoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKsN5cj9ehs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xrocrwBVyAs

The Business:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_gZB5mYDoE

^ If you play bass, this is a bassline that is simple to practice but will still improve your finger placement.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JluZayrdWgY

^ This is what The Business has to say about ProperCoochie's NYC art punks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Xehgu9zl14

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUg-ujHanFc

The Oppressed:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqwCjV7nu20

Oh we're the people that you hate,
The underclass that you create,
The hooligans out on your street,
Thugs you pray you'll never meet, it's true.

Oh we're the violence in your town,
The riot that you can't put down,
The hooligans that you call scum,
The ones who never ever run from you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YVo5mrBKow4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7RNDlelLeY

^ AFA Song, unfortunately still relevant.

UK Subs:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBJxS21CRdQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMODsbPUejI

^^ Two very relevant songs again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M30hNtgFPlQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocR3Gz72LCs

Vice Squad:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LwNDtxN4Ys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVgNbIMXYw8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n99_fk1MZAg

I don't often listen to these bands these days, since I already played the poo poo out of them as a teenager who was first getting into punk, but sometimes when I get sick of listening to overproduced, post-ironic Epitaph and/or third wave bands from California, it's good to return to the primitive basics.

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 14:53 on Jun 9, 2020

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.
Ive always thought Sham 69 was a better example of early UK punk than the Sex Pistols. I get that the Sex Pistols came first, but they were basically the worlds worst boy band. They didnt really have much to say other than the occasional shock song like God Save The Queen and were better known for their antics during interviews than anything. Sham 69 actually had something to say and said it, they also made music that was actually pretty good.

dorkthrone
Nov 11, 2019

I really liked this band.

Trash Brats - Time Don't Wanna Tell

Here's a video of them pissing off Kid Rock fans for 45 minutes. https://youtu.be/OtaOU6DkOfk

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



CoffeeBooze posted:

Ive always thought Sham 69 was a better example of early UK punk than the Sex Pistols. I get that the Sex Pistols came first, but they were basically the worlds worst boy band. They didnt really have much to say other than the occasional shock song like God Save The Queen and were better known for their antics during interviews than anything. Sham 69 actually had something to say and said it, they also made music that was actually pretty good.

I respect the Sex Pistols in the sense that they kickstarted punk as a subculture, but yeah, on their own merits they're basically a manufactured boy band. poo poo Vicious also couldn't play the bass, and I'm pretty sure he mistreated his girlfriend whether or not he actually killed her.

DapperDraculaDeer
Aug 4, 2007

Shut up, Nick! You're not Twilight.

Phlegmish posted:



Cockney Rejects:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_riKXE86Nlk

^ I've always felt like this is the unofficial Oi! anthem, appropriately titled Oi Oi Oi

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bWnUNp8QEpc

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lREDv6uU7o

^ Continuing with the police theme



This is another band I really enjoy. They also did some really good songs that showed off their pub rock roots like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DP3tkqx0U5M Its a shame how so much of Oi music got coopted by Neo Nazis despite pretty much every band involved in the genre making it clear they wanted nothing at all to do with that poo poo. It makes the genre hard to talk about with people who arent particularly familiar with it. Just another example of why fascism sucks.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Musically, I don't care, I'll continue to listen to any good skinhead band that isn't made up of Nazis or otherwise too far to the right.

In terms of aesthetics, yeah...it sounds really stupid, but I'll avoid putting on my boots just after I've had a haircut (I always ask the barber to get it as short as possible). I'm too much of a pussy to go for the skinhead look in public. I always get angry when I think about that. The skinhead subculture ultimately comes from Jamaica, gently caress you, it's not for Nazis.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Phlegmish posted:

Lots of oi and uk82 gems

:cheers:

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
Oi makes my stomach ache as I remember puking up so much malt liquor listening to the Cockney Rejects.

Jimlit
Jun 30, 2005



Phlegmish posted:

Musically, I don't care, I'll continue to listen to any good skinhead band that isn't made up of Nazis or otherwise too far to the right.

In terms of aesthetics, yeah...it sounds really stupid, but I'll avoid putting on my boots just after I've had a haircut (I always ask the barber to get it as short as possible). I'm too much of a pussy to go for the skinhead look in public. I always get angry when I think about that. The skinhead subculture ultimately comes from Jamaica, gently caress you, it's not for Nazis.

it's been pretty much exclusively for nazis since like the 90's. I cant imagine running around as a white guy in 2020 constantly having to tell people "I'm the Jamaican skinhead not the nazi ones"

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here
I thought that's what boot laces were for???

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Jimlit posted:

it's been pretty much exclusively for nazis since like the 90's. I cant imagine running around as a white guy in 2020 constantly having to tell people "I'm the Jamaican skinhead not the nazi ones"

It absolutely is not 'exclusively for Nazis' even today (I'm pretty sure both SHARPs and trads have actually had a major resurgence since the nineties, mostly thanks to the Internet), but the public perception which you exemplify quite accurately in your post is why you won't see me walking around dressed as a skinhead. You can see how it's a self-perpetuating thing, aesthetically.

Literally A Person posted:

I thought that's what boot laces were for???

99% of the public knows jack poo poo about the history of ska, punk, and skinheads. They're not going to be able to interpret your color-coded laces. All they see is a skinhead (=bad).

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

I love oi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgIbhICHb44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ4msDUoM-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_q4PWohH4I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioCKjripyT4

Japanese oi is fascinating to me but so much of it is probably actually nationalistic that I feel apprehensive about sharing it.

E: idk why these videos are fuxking up for me I'm sorry

ee: fixed the videos

wearing a lampshade fucked around with this message at 16:05 on Jun 9, 2020

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Phlegmish posted:

It absolutely is not 'exclusively for Nazis' even today (I'm pretty sure both SHARPs and trads have actually had a major resurgence since the nineties, mostly thanks to the Internet), but the public perception which you exemplify quite accurately in your post is why you won't see me walking around dressed as a skinhead. You can see how it's a self-perpetuating thing, aesthetically.


99% of the public knows jack poo poo about the history of ska, punk, and skinheads. They're not going to be able to interpret your color-coded laces. All they see is a skinhead (=bad).

i'd argue that nazi skins aren't as prevelant these days explicitly because of orgs like SHARP. You don't see so many boneheads these days as you see proud boys.

and yeah, the laces thing was very scene specific, if was ever actually a thing. some scenes the red meant commie, in others it meant like, idk blood of your enemies or some wack poo poo.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnNpmq957oo

Victis
Mar 26, 2008

Boots and flight jackets are pretty stylish nowadays so maybe just get a real haircut. I work in an office and rock the FP polo too, no one cares. No braces either though?

Sometimes you gotta grow up a little

Literally A Person
Jan 1, 1970

Smugworth Wuz Here

Victis posted:

Sometimes you gotta grow up a little

Not if you work with your hands. I still get to dress like a crazy person everyday if I want.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

Phlegmish posted:

Thought you were going to link the Faction song:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L7EkuGCfkYI

I only know two of their songs, but I like the minimalistic verses that are just a frenetic bass and some drums.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPiZ2oHOls


Speaking of old San Jose, CA punk bands, Los Olvidados were great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI98cOQgmPs


There was also this band, The Unaware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tTLSXHWXw4

The drummer was also in The Faction. The only music I've ever been able to find from them is the one track on the Not So Quiet on the Western Front, and these tracks from a rare cassette only compilation:



Apparently they released a demo in 1981 or 1982, but I've never been able to find a copy.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Gutter Phoenix posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjPiZ2oHOls


Speaking of old San Jose, CA punk bands, Los Olvidados were great:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI98cOQgmPs


There was also this band, The Unaware:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tTLSXHWXw4

The drummer was also in The Faction. The only music I've ever been able to find from them is the one track on the Not So Quiet on the Western Front, and these tracks from a rare cassette only compilation:



Apparently they released a demo in 1981 or 1982, but I've never been able to find a copy.

posts like this make me wish blogged and quartered didn't have his server taken down

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Has anyone mentioned Social Unrest yet? I love this record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4H7tWX1gArk

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

AND killfromtheheart. what a good database

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

all those mrr reviews... like tears in the rain...

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).
Here's another classic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARyjrT2Hjao

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

albany academy posted:

AND killfromtheheart. what a good database

Oh poo poo, I remember Kill From the Heart. They had a ton of rare interviews and stuff from obscure punk zines. Is that site defunct?

I can't even calculate how much time I spent researching and searching record stores for unpopular 70's-80's punk music in the pre-internet 90's. The search was part of the fun I guess, but I gotta say that YouTube (and the internet in general) has made finding this stuff about a million times easier.

Gutter Phoenix
Jul 23, 2013

I preferred your last avatar, so I put it back. My apologies to the pedo who purchased your last one (it's always projection).

albany academy posted:

all those mrr reviews... like tears in the rain...

Archive.org has a ton of old issues of Maximum Rocknroll:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=maximum%20rocknroll

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Yeah afaik it was running off NYU servers until someone realised that it was running on NYU servers. Could be wrong, but iirc the dude said it was too busy and had too much data that hosting it himself would suck. MRR told me in 2016 that they were 2orking on porting it over to their site, but it doesn't look like they ever finished.

wearing a lampshade
Mar 6, 2013

Gutter Phoenix posted:

Archive.org has a ton of old issues of Maximum Rocknroll:

https://archive.org/search.php?query=maximum%20rocknroll

Lol it was mostly for reading an extensive entry for some meathead ushc band and then getting to the reviews and tim yohannon writing "it sucks" or something to that degree.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



albany academy posted:

I love oi.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgIbhICHb44

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ4msDUoM-w

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_q4PWohH4I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioCKjripyT4

Japanese oi is fascinating to me but so much of it is probably actually nationalistic that I feel apprehensive about sharing it.

E: idk why these videos are fuxking up for me I'm sorry

ee: fixed the videos

You must be the punk brother I unfortunately never had, I went on a French punk YouTube bender a year or two ago, and those are some of the bands that came up. Komintern Sect I already knew, but the other two were solid discoveries. Here's some more:

Les Collabos:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mmatBinRN4

Kochise (if I know you, which I don't, these guys will be right up your alley):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZwvMd5jbqI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQLgTZgWbF4

They have more good stuff but there aren't a lot of individual songs on YT. Most of their albums are on there, though.

Haine Brigade:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHwDYf9qUC4

^ This is a really cool song, I don't even know what to call this sub-subgenre of wistful long-form Oi!, Camera Silens has songs like that as well.

Warrior Kids are one of my favorite French punk bands. It's just three nobody eighties kids from the garbage-ridden city of Marseille coming up with their own awesome take on Oi!, it's...good-natured and melancholic somehow. Don't let the audio quality fool you, these guys could play (although the singer couldn't sing):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jQcXEB6-hY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcrY-Yo3wXk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPhpT9dGngI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VC6oKoyJAK4

I'd say we should hang out, but you're probably not even on the same continent.

uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug
from the late 70s but the lyrics seem relevant even now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKsN5cj9ehs

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



I already posted that on this very page you nincompoop, are you saying you didn't click every single one of those links and listen to the entire song

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uber_stoat
Jan 21, 2001



Pillbug

Phlegmish posted:

I already posted that on this very page you nincompoop, are you saying you didn't click every single one of those links and listen to the entire song

:justpost:

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