Gumball Gumption posted:

Byers2142 posted:

CPig is lying. Or rather, it's misleading. "You get the ability to immediately explode, killing yourself and everyone at your location" is in line with CPig's humor, the source material, and is funny as hell.

Mr. Humalong posted:

CPig runs bastard games, fyi

Byers2142 posted:

Two, Amni seems to be trying to drag us out of joke phase, but by forcibly casing the joke phase posts. Which is strange in a game where it would make more sense to address the mechanics if you fundamentally want to move us out of joke phase. It looks more like what someone who wants the appearance of moving us along would do than what someone who actually wants to move us along would do, if that makes sense. Or maybe someone who can theory craft in a separate discord channel, so doesn't need to in the thread itself.

Rarity posted:

Gonna lol if this is Tobbs pulling the same scummy intro post SNG pulled in my last game

Dick Bastardly posted:

Byers post reads like: "If you want to move a game out of joke phaize, you do it like this; what i am doing now."

Sprinkled a little shade on on amni for good measure and oh yeah, control the narrative around the sarcophagus.

I don't really like it. ##vote byers

Gumball Gumption posted:

The way I read the rules you can choose not to look and just stay home. So yeah, it's kind of a bold claim to declare that it has to be bad and encourage people to not look for it.

Byers2142 posted:

CPig is lying. Or rather, it's misleading. "You get the ability to immediately explode, killing yourself and everyone at your location" is in line with CPig's humor, the source material, and is funny as hell.

Mr. Humalong posted:

I am seeing a lot of PERFORMATIVE POSTING today

tpink posted:

I will say that I find it very very strange that the game setup explicitly frames finding the sarcophagus as a good thing and a goal to work toward, but that this is apparently 100% contradicted by game lore that more than one person knows already.

ShallNoiseUpon posted:

i'm very new to mafia (in particular forums mafia) so I'm not sure it's necessarily scummy in any sort of meta sense but the "yeah my reads are good" as some sort of implied authoritative position interested me

Gumball Gumption posted:

If the argument is that we can't trust the mod and the OP it's just as likely the coffin does something wildly different than the lore.

b-minus1 posted:

I just read the op

merk posted:

##vote Gumball

Happily diving into rules discussion instead of scum hunting.

tpink posted:

I will say that I find it very very strange that the game setup explicitly frames finding the sarcophagus as a good thing and a goal to work toward, but that this is apparently 100% contradicted by game lore that more than one person knows already.

Sandwolf posted:

I feel totally fine about Byer's post and generally think townie of him for it. Scum get no benefit from lurching us out of jokevote so quickly. IF, say, Byers were to be scum with that information, it'd make no sense at all to bring it to our attention. The theory someone had about Byer's tryna get people to avoid searching for the sarcophagus was pretty 4D chess but again, I don't think scum make that attention-grabbing of a post so quick.

Mr. Steak posted:

i wouldnt put it past cpig to do that, but the big thing that makes me doubt your theory is that he's incorporated a really simple and unambiguous way to avoid the danger, and from the sound of it he made it REALLY obvious that the item is bad, to anybody who knows the flavor.

the good thing about your theory, is that you have a pretty easy way to, at the very least, prove that you actually believe what you're saying. i would find the tone in your initial effortpost extremely weird if you have 0 influence, so im assuming you definitely have some. im also assuming we'll be told at some point if we receive influence. so all you have to do is send somebody your influence today, or send some to multiple people. and im fairly sure nobody else is confident enough to transfer influence this early, so by tomorrow we'll know if you believed yourself enough to transfer away your influence. and if not, i'll be forced to suspect you're scum

Mr. Steak posted:

i wouldnt put it past cpig to do that, but the big thing that makes me doubt your theory is that he's incorporated a really simple and unambiguous way to avoid the danger, and from the sound of it he made it REALLY obvious that the item is bad, to anybody who knows the flavor.

the good thing about your theory, is that you have a pretty easy way to, at the very least, prove that you actually believe what you're saying. i would find the tone in your initial effortpost extremely weird if you have 0 influence, so im assuming you definitely have some. im also assuming we'll be told at some point if we receive influence. so all you have to do is send somebody your influence today, or send some to multiple people. and im fairly sure nobody else is confident enough to transfer influence this early, so by tomorrow we'll know if you believed yourself enough to transfer away your influence. and if not, i'll be forced to suspect you're scum

Rarity posted:

Your whole vibe is just way too serious right now

tpink posted:

Ahhh you beat me to it!

Sandwolf posted:

I feel totally fine about Byer's post and generally think townie of him for it. Scum get no benefit from lurching us out of jokevote so quickly. IF, say, Byers were to be scum with that information, it'd make no sense at all to bring it to our attention. The theory someone had about Byer's tryna get people to avoid searching for the sarcophagus was pretty 4D chess but again, I don't think scum make that attention-grabbing of a post so quick.

tpink posted:

Now this I like.

tpink posted:

I agree with this too, and the people pointing fingers at Byers for moving the game forward are actually much more suss imo.

Mr. Steak posted:

i wouldnt put it past cpig to do that, but the big thing that makes me doubt your theory is that he's incorporated a really simple and unambiguous way to avoid the danger, and from the sound of it he made it REALLY obvious that the item is bad, to anybody who knows the flavor.

the good thing about your theory, is that you have a pretty easy way to, at the very least, prove that you actually believe what you're saying. i would find the tone in your initial effortpost extremely weird if you have 0 influence, so im assuming you definitely have some. im also assuming we'll be told at some point if we receive influence. so all you have to do is send somebody your influence today, or send some to multiple people. and im fairly sure nobody else is confident enough to transfer influence this early, so by tomorrow we'll know if you believed yourself enough to transfer away your influence. and if not, i'll be forced to suspect you're scum

Dick Bastardly posted:

We aren't playing the source game you idiots, were playing mafia

merk posted:

I disagree. I see someone dragging us out of jokephase as usually a town move. This is probably a general mafia disagreement though, but I never understood why people think scum would want to end jokephase early.

Also, early casework is going to sound forced because it is forced. React to cases in the context of the game.

Dick Bastardly posted:

We aren't playing the source game you idiots, were playing mafia

merk posted:

Before this post, you've been making jokes. Here, you put in a ton of effort to setup speculate instead of hunting scum.

##vote Steak - better case than Gumball.

Dick Bastardly posted:

We aren't playing the source game you idiots, were playing mafia

merk posted:

##vote Gumball

Happily diving into rules discussion instead of scum hunting.

Byers2142 posted:

It's not that they want to move us out of joke phase, it's that they want to be seen moving us out of joke phase. It's about what the intended result is. Amni's cases were forced in a bad way, particularly on Sal, meaning there's less conversation that would develop from them. It leans more towards wanting to be seen instead of wanting to move us, which is what I'm calling out. But it's not strong enought for a vote yet, and the big problem we'll have is that the non-town teams can scumhunt the other teams.

Sandwolf posted:

Respectfully disagree, I saw Amni's posts as sincerely trying to get us out of jokephase and forcedly being based on very little, but that's what you do. Today, I would be more suspicious of people trying to keep us in jokevote/resistant to leaving jokevote themselves.

Mr. Humalong posted:

youre so lucky we can't chain probe you any more

Byers2142 posted:

I think your phone hated you there...

Amnistar posted:

..mdont you dare be reasonable for the second game in a row Wolfie...

Amnistar posted:

Who are these people tpink? Please name names of who you think is scummy based on this point of view.