nz was meant to have an election yesterday, but it got postponed to october 17 because of covid. there are also referendums on euthanansia and freaking legalising it. how does it work nz uses a ‘mixed-member proportional’ (mmp) electoral system. basically you vote for your preferred party and your local candidate. parties that win more than 5% or get an electorate seat enter parliament. we don’t have a senate or house of lords or whatever. this video shows how mmp works: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pljoleVHFug who is going to win the labour party probably. jacinda ardern is insanely popular and the opposition is a mess. the biggest unknown is whether labour can get enough votes to govern alone – this hasn’t happened under mmp before. there’s always a chance that labour can gently caress things up though. here’s what polling looks like: the big upswing for labour in may is p much entirely thanks to the government’s covid response: jacinda leveraged the coercive power of the state (ftw) to lock the whole country down as soon as we had community transmission. as a result, we’ve only had 1,815 cases and 25 deaths. in the meantime the major opposition party imploded – their leader got rolled for being too mean, then his replacement quit after 53 days because he didn’t realise how hard the job was lol. their current leader is a stone cold freak. who’s running here are the only parties that matter (probably) the government parties labour is the big centre-left party, they haven’t really achieved anything over the past 3 years because they’re afraid of making anybody mad. jacinda is ruthless, a very good communicator, and personally very likeable. they’re desperately trying to avoid releasing any policy at the moment, and being rewarded for it new zealand first is the populist conservative party – anti-immigrant, but anti-neoliberal etc. vaguely similar to ukip, but with more complicated racial politics. they deserve at least part of the blame for blocking a bunch of reforms this term. the party pretty much is winston peters, who quit the national party in the 90s after they went economically liberal. it’s looking unlikely that they will return to parliament, though they do traditionally outperform polls. the greens are a left-environmentalist party, who have shed most of the hippy anti-vaxx stuff. they have a co-leadership model – james shaw is more mainstream/centrist, while marama davis has a stronger activist background. traditionally the beneficiaries of support from leftish voters who are pissed off with labour, they’re currently polling in the danger zone around 5%. im voting for these guys!!! the opposition parties national is the big centre-right party, though they’ve got an increasing number of religious freaks. they still haven’t come to terms with being in opposition, following 9 years under john key’s premiership. judith collins is pretty hard-right economically, tough on crime, and has a socially liberal record on most conscience issues. she’s probably most well known for featuring in a book on her party’s dirty tricks. cool! the association of consumers and taxpayers () is a libertarian party that has polled below 1% for most of the past decade. little david seymour has successfully built their profile through his work on euthanasia legislation, and by appealing to free speech and gun crybabies following the 2019 christchurch mosque attacks. some parties that are also running in vague order of popularity:
what is going to happen in the referendums the euthanasia one is probably going to pass, and the weed one is a coinflip. you can read about them here: referendums.govt.nz happy to answer any questions, just remember that ‘lord of the rings’ is fail
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how did the coalition with the Maori Party work out? I remember hearing it disastrous
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also, here is an incredible video of the big wet guy who quit being national party leader in 2 months https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/poli...itting-day.html
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 08:04 |
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Please note Collins is out if they don't win (they likely won't) meaning National will have had three leadership changes in the span of less than 12 months. These are the ones that campaign on stability.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 08:31 |
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Victory Position posted:how did the coalition with the Maori Party work out? I remember hearing it disastrous yeah it wasn’t a good call for them to do go in to the coalition. One of the leaders had a hate boner for Labour (although to be fair it was somewhat deserved for some Treaty fuckery), but it turns out their voting base really (unsurprisingly) didn’t want to team up with National and abandoned them entirely to go back to voting for Labour.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 08:32 |
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I think ACT is benefitting more (or at least equally) from dissatisfied national voters than it is from gun nuts and freedom of speech racists
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 08:55 |
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Reminder that you know Judith Collins is just kidding when she says something if her eyebrows are raised.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 09:13 |
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Are One the guys putting up those insane KINGDOM billboards everywhere? Amazingly bad vibe from that lot
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Crane Fist posted:Are One the guys putting up those insane KINGDOM billboards everywhere? Amazingly bad vibe from that lot yeah the spin off did a profile of them https://thespinoff.co.nz/politics/18-08-2020/a-revelation-in-marton-the-spinoff-meets-new-zealands-newest-christian-party/ they seem to be the least worst of the christian parties!
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https://twitter.com/IslaStewart/status/1290173893202780162?s=20 looks good to me
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 10:54 |
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I still don't like Bridges/Brigdes, but I do enjoy that he no longer gives a gently caress
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 11:11 |
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Crane Fist posted:Are One the guys putting up those insane KINGDOM billboards everywhere? Amazingly bad vibe from that lot the local one has pulled down the labour one and put hers up in place they are confusing billboards. party vote one party vote kingdom? I might be reading it wrong but I am driving at 100kp/h past it
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 11:50 |
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Please note that New Zealand has some loving fascinating joke and stunt political parties
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 11:54 |
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bike tory posted:I think ACT is benefitting more (or at least equally) from dissatisfied national voters than it is from gun nuts and freedom of speech racists When ACT get 8% or whatever depending on how bad National do there are going to be some spectacular meltdowns from the gun nut packed list
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Displeased Moo Cow posted:the local one has pulled down the labour one and put hers up in place In my commute there's a votesafe billboard right next to the new cons binding referenda one, so if you look at them from the right angle they read "LETHAL DOSE? Yes please" xiw posted:When ACT get 8% or whatever depending on how bad National do there are going to be some spectacular meltdowns from the gun nut packed list Can't wait for ACT to put a bunch of gun fuckers into parliament and then realise they forgot to write any other policies some plague rats has issued a correction as of 12:21 on Sep 20, 2020 |
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Somfin posted:Please note that New Zealand has some loving fascinating joke and stunt political parties Required reading before posting in this thread https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McGillicuddy_Serious_Party quote:Central policies in every election included a return to a mediaeval lifestyle, known as the "Great Leap Backwards" and (superficially) the restoration of a monarchy supposedly based on the Scottish Jacobite line, in the name of Bonnie Prince Geoffie the reluctant. At a deeper level the party invoked the political system of Tibetan Buddhism, with "stspm" (singularly transferable spirit possession monarchy) used as justification for the selection of Bonnie Prince Geoffie as the undeniable head of the McState. This embodied the principles stated by the ancient Greeks that "no-one who seeks power should be allowed it." Bonnie Prince Geoffie refused consistently and permanently to have anything to do with the authority that this position gave him, and ran for all he was worth and never had anything to do with party again, thus proving his indisputable worthiness for the position.
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exmarx posted:vision – christian conservatives Led by the wife of the guy who burnt his dick in a garbage fire of his own creation.
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commie kong posted:https://twitter.com/IslaStewart/status/1290173893202780162?s=20 Well, I imagine that would be fifth period.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:Required reading before posting in this thread ah, some homegrown Church of the Sub-Genius this one sounds pretty well-thought out
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 18:59 |
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Ardern is probably the most competent head of government in the anglosphere right now.
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 19:03 |
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Lawman 0 posted:Ardern is probably the most competent head of government in the anglosphere right now. not a high bar to clear, but yes
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Chalupa Joe posted:Led by the wife of the guy who burnt his dick in a garbage fire of his own creation. I love that is not a metaphor. I met my local labour mp Tangi Utikere last week he seemed like and pretty decent guy.
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Lawman 0 posted:Ardern is probably the most competent head of government in the anglosphere right now. The best part is she’s going to use all this built up power and good will to do exactly loving nothing because labour are terrified of doing anything but spinning their wheels
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quote:Look who I met at Parliament today! Her name is Chica and she’s a very good girl. She was a bit worried about the devastating GDP figures released today, but I was on hand to give her some reassuring pats - my National Government will get us through it.
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Same.
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:The best part is she’s going to use all this built up power and good will to do exactly loving nothing because labour are terrified of doing anything but spinning their wheels well, the only freight that I know you guys are accepting is by ocean and very stringently too it's the first time I really got chewed out for IMO guidelines
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Victory Position posted:ah, some homegrown Church of the Sub-Genius The mcgillicuddies are less obnoxious atheist edgelord and more aging hippies taking the piss, not so much sub-genius and more yippies who never sold out I've had a lot to do with them and I have an immense affection for them but they are deliberately useless
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BARONS CYBER SKULL posted:The best part is she’s going to use all this built up power and good will to do exactly loving nothing because labour are terrified of doing anything but spinning their wheels lol that owns
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 23:22 |
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It's me, patting a dog and linking it to the GDP, Im very normal you see
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# ? Sep 20, 2020 23:36 |
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https://twitter.com/garethmorgannz/status/1307582413107654656?s=20
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Crane Fist posted:The mcgillicuddies are less obnoxious atheist edgelord and more aging hippies taking the piss, not so much sub-genius and more yippies who never sold out One of the (possibly apocryphal) policies they had was transitioning New Zealand to driving on the right-hand side of the road; in order to minimise confusion this would be phased in over the course of five years, starting with the heaviest vehicles on the road and working their way up to the lightest.
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Lawman 0 posted:Ardern is probably the most competent head of government in the anglosphere right now. she seems to work well in crisis mode. the rest of the time? eh, she's not aggressively driving to the right so i guess that's a win?
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Somfin posted:One of the (possibly apocryphal) policies they had was transitioning New Zealand to driving on the right-hand side of the road; in order to minimise confusion this would be phased in over the course of five years, starting with the heaviest vehicles on the road and working their way up to the lightest. It is literally impossible to not like those guys
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redleader posted:she seems to work well in crisis mode. the rest of the time? eh, she's not aggressively driving to the right so i guess that's a win? The right thrives in the status quo so doing nothing is a win for them every time
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Somfin posted:One of the (possibly apocryphal) policies they had was transitioning New Zealand to driving on the right-hand side of the road; in order to minimise confusion this would be phased in over the course of five years, starting with the heaviest vehicles on the road and working their way up to the lightest. They also wanted legalised abortion up to 18 years, but only if the mother killed the baby with her own bare hands this was to annoy everyone on every side of the abortion issue (it worked)
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exmarx posted:also, here is an incredible video of the big wet guy who quit being national party leader in 2 months at just after two minutes did i see this dude essentially call that goldsmith guy pocahontas by giving him a maori first name? i can't quite tell because of the accent. lol new zealand racists
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# ? Sep 21, 2020 00:41 |
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so do the socialists in New Zealand support the Greens. what about the trade unions.
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Atrocious Joe posted:so do the socialists in New Zealand support the Greens. what about the trade unions. Short answer would be generally yes and a mixture of not automatically and no, respectively
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Labour was created by socialists and the trade unions, but only the latter have really stuck with them. Socialists probably have to vote Greens as the structure of MMP means they are currently the only viable tool for moving the government left, but that of course doesn't mean they do (this is doing double duty for both socialists voting for them, and the Greens moving the government left). There are a number of socialist parties, many of which fail to register, but none of them have been able to gain an electorate or poll high enough to get exposure in the last 50 years so they mostly concentrate on activism over electioneering.i say swears online posted:at just after two minutes did i see this dude essentially call that goldsmith guy pocahontas by giving him a maori first name? i can't quite tell because of the accent. lol new zealand racists
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