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wankel13b
Jan 23, 2005

quak

A Strange Aeon posted:

For some reason that reminds me that the Exploited have a song called gently caress the Macarena. Like, they must have really run out of things to rebel against.

Punk's not dead, it's...inexplicably angry at an old dance craze.

Why not 'gently caress The Charleston' or 'gently caress The Lindy Hop'?

Maybe it came out closer to when the Macarena was popular (the '95 version), but on Discogs the only two albums I am seeing of theirs since then are Beat The Bastards in '96 and gently caress The System in '03 and it's not on either of those.

Apparently there are a lot of girls named Macarena because when I do a search on "exploited gently caress the macarena" there's a number of porn results. Or maybe it's just one girl named Macarena who is VERY prolific.

Beastie Boys' Hot Sauce Committee Part Two is kind of a lame album title.

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Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The Exploited is not a very good band even by punk standards

Lodin
Jul 31, 2003

by Fluffdaddy
Pretty sure the worst album name is 'Touch me' by Gary Glitter.

Wild T
Dec 15, 2008

The point I'm trying to make is that the only way to come out on top is to kick the Air Force in the nuts, beart it savagely with a weight and take a dump on it's face.

wankel13b posted:

Ministry has a run of really bad puns for album names:

Sphinctour
Houses Of The Molé
From Beer To Eternity

Those aren't the only ones, but they're the worst of the bunch.

The Revolting Cocks album ¿Got Cock? was a play on the Got Milk? ad slogan that had already been around for SEVENTEEN YEARS, nevermind the fact that none of the actual Revolting Cocks other than Al Jourgensen were on the album. And, unsurprisingly, the cover was a takeoff of the milk mustache ads, also over 17 years old, but instead of milk, it's cum. Al snorted, shot up, and smoked away the part of the brain responsible for clever.

Dark Side of the Spoon was a pretty good one, though. Then they had Psalm 69, which didn't actually show the album name on the cover and had a bunch of pseudo-Greek writing instead.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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wankel13b posted:

Punk's not dead, it's...inexplicably angry at an old dance craze.

Why not 'gently caress The Charleston' or 'gently caress The Lindy Hop'?

Maybe it came out closer to when the Macarena was popular (the '95 version), but on Discogs the only two albums I am seeing of theirs since then are Beat The Bastards in '96 and gently caress The System in '03 and it's not on either of those.

Apparently there are a lot of girls named Macarena because when I do a search on "exploited gently caress the macarena" there's a number of porn results. Or maybe it's just one girl named Macarena who is VERY prolific.

Beastie Boys' Hot Sauce Committee Part Two is kind of a lame album title.

To be fair, it's difficult to overstate how annoying and omnipresent the Macarena was at the time. They made us learn that stupid dance in school, even.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
Screamadelica is less than ideal

Zamboni Rodeo
Jul 19, 2007

NEVER play "Lady of Spain" AGAIN!




Chumbawumba4ever97 posted:

After reading every entry in this thread, "Honkin' on Bobo" easily is the album name that's most embarrassing to say out loud. Like I'd get unimaginable douche chills if I were a fan of Aerosmith and I had to say "Hey Steve, have you checked out their new album, 'Honkin' on Bobo', yet?".

Snackula posted:

I can't stop thinking about Honking on Bobo. It's not edgy, it's not pretentious, it's just loving terrible in this completely earnest way that makes it so much funnier. Like the joke is 'huhuh it sounds like a blowjob' but Steven Tyler is the one doing the honking so did this motherfucker really intentionally name an album a double entendre that suggest he's sucking clown dick? Is Steven Tyler way cooler than I ever imagined?

Just seeing the name Honkin' on Bobo sends me into an uncontrollable giggle fit that none of the other album titles so far mentioned in this thread do. So if I were going by that metric alone, I'd have to say it's a loving awesome album name.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
the Trick Daddy album names gave me the 2nd biggest laugh; here it is again for anyone that missed it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trick_Daddy_discography

edit: this is actually on a different album of his' wikipedia page:

quote:

Based on a True Story is the debut album by rapper Trick Daddy, under the name Trick Daddy Dollars. It was released on July 29, 1997 by Warlock Records[3] and re-released on June 5, 2001 by Slip-n-Slide Records.[4] The album has sold 127,000+ copies. This is his only album as of 2016 not to have the word "thug" in the title.

lol

Also the album cover is a complete rip off of the ODB one

Chumbawumba4ever97 fucked around with this message at 00:42 on Sep 30, 2020

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



The late nineties is really when the golden age of hip-hop was over, and the lovely Puff Daddy-style rappers started dominating

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Phlegmish posted:

The late nineties is really when the golden age of hip-hop was over, and the lovely Puff Daddy-style rappers started dominating

Yep.

Before him, rap artists barely went platinum. Like the first Wu Tang album took two loving years to go platinum.

Puffy comes out with his weak rear end music (literally just rapping over 80s songs) and sold three million overnight and that was that.

Some good stuff still comes out but 88-97 definitely was the golden era. 89-95 is my personal favorite span.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



For as little as I know about rap, still same - that's when you had Naughty By Nature, A Tribe Called Quest, Souls of Mischief, and guys like that.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Oh my god are you guys doing a bit or are you really that unaware of what you're doing? What are you like 40? Of course you think music peaked when you first started really getting into it.

Chumbawumba4ever97
Dec 31, 2000

by Fluffdaddy

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Oh my god are you guys doing a bit or are you really that unaware of what you're doing? What are you like 40? Of course you think music peaked when you first started really getting into it.

You're right, Tekashi is every bit as good as Raekwon

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Oh my god are you guys doing a bit or are you really that unaware of what you're doing? What are you like 40? Of course you think music peaked when you first started really getting into it.
I didn't discover much golden age rap until my late 20s/early 30s, can't really say I grew up with it. Rappers from then like Big Daddy Kane and Rakim might not even ring a bell for young'uns these days, and they might have heard of Nas/Biggie but not have heard them much.

Rappers like Rakim definitely inspire that "Wow this is amazing, I could never ever ever do that" feeling, while soundcloud rappers etc. inspire more of a "literally anyone could do that, especially if they were totally hosed up on PCP or benzos, which these rappers definitely are" vibe.

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
That you picked him for your example tells me everything I ever needed to know. We're done here.

frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.
lol is that a fuckin' joke? literally everybody knows hip hop has gone to poo poo since the late 90s. Even kids born in the 2000s think so. this isn't some "I don't like this newfangled music" phenomenon you loving goon. Like legitimately everybody (other than you) thinks its gotten worse.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
If you think hip-hop got bad after the late 1990s, you have obviously never heard the crossover masterwork Honkin' on Bowwow

Funky See Funky Do
Aug 20, 2013
STILL TRYING HARD
Wow really, everyone? The PTA and the HOA? Even whatshisname Todd's dad from soccer practice?

Star Me Kitten
Aug 10, 2020

mobby_6kl posted:

Those are probably more likely to be baristas or sandwich artists rather than actual scientists though so all is well

It's an all right album but a dumbass name which I thought was the point

It is totally a dumbass name. I just remembered how good that album is when you mentioned it.

Also incidentally Pink Floyd is way better than the Beatles.






Origin posted:

Spinal Tap's "Smell the Glove." I mean, it is just an album sleeve that is entirely black. It could have at least had a greased naked woman on all fours with a dog collar around her neck, and a leash, and a man's arm extended out up to here, holding onto the leash, and pushing a black glove in her face to sniff it.

Metallica did it better.

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



Funky See Funky Do posted:

Oh my god are you guys doing a bit or are you really that unaware of what you're doing? What are you like 40? Of course you think music peaked when you first started really getting into it.

I was born in 1990 and I didn't really discover these groups like NBN and Souls of Mischief until a few years ago, anyway.

Normally I'd give you props for being so perceptive and above it all, I try it all the time myself, but that's a swing and a miss

e: oh, he's actually the one doing a bit. OK, got us I guess.

Phlegmish fucked around with this message at 15:10 on Sep 30, 2020

shame on an IGA
Apr 8, 2005

The best music of any given moment since the dawn of the recording era, is almost strictly a function of what technological innovations hit 15 years earlier and have a generation of young artists just arriving on the scene who fully internalized the potential of that tech as children. Guitars, effects and tape tricks in the 60s, synths in the 70s, samplers and sequencers in the 80s, fully capable democratized DAWs in the now

shame on an IGA fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Sep 30, 2020

frh
Dec 6, 2014

Hire Kenny G to play for me in the elevator.

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Wow really, everyone? The PTA and the HOA? Even whatshisname Todd's dad from soccer practice?

ah yes, clearly there haven't been countless books, documentaries, studies, articles, and compilations about the "Golden Era of Hip Hop"; it's not even a real term at all!

It's just pasty white suburban goons yearning for their youth!




















It's clearly only 40 year old computer nerds that think this! :rolleyes:

frh fucked around with this message at 18:12 on Sep 30, 2020

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Funky See Funky Do posted:

Oh my god are you guys doing a bit or are you really that unaware of what you're doing? What are you like 40? Of course you think music peaked when you first started really getting into it.

I don't think that's true for everyone, I think there is also a category of person (of any age) that thinks music sucks now (or has sucked since whatever decade) because generally speaking as time goes on good music has become less visible and obnoxious bullshit has become more visible

Like yeah there's been tons of new bands coming out always forever but in my experience it's become harder to find the signal in the noise

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

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Simone Magus posted:

I don't think that's true for everyone, I think there is also a category of person (of any age) that thinks music sucks now (or has sucked since whatever decade) because generally speaking as time goes on good music has become less visible and obnoxious bullshit has become more visible

Like yeah there's been tons of new bands coming out always forever but in my experience it's become harder to find the signal in the noise

For as much as I hate how much The Algorithm controls my life, YouTube has helped me find a lot of music I would have otherwise never heard of (this obscure Japanese 80s goth rock, for example) so I don't think it's a matter of signal:noise as much as it is that you kind of have to grease the wheels with regard to the types of music you listen to so you're not getting routed to the same poo poo all the time.

I've had that problem with New Retro Wave type stuff - there's an avalanche of that type of music but very little of it is legitimately good. For how many dozens of synthwave artists there are out there, there are like five who I could listen to and distinguish (basically anybody featured on a Hotline Miami soundtrack) while so many of them are basically making the same song over and over again. That's the big problem with the algorithmic directing of recommendations, you either hear the same poo poo over and over or you hear a bunch of different poo poo that sounds the same.

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Star Me Kitten posted:

Also incidentally Pink Floyd is way better than the Beatles.

No argument there!

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Heath posted:

For as much as I hate how much The Algorithm controls my life, YouTube has helped me find a lot of music I would have otherwise never heard of (this obscure Japanese 80s goth rock, for example) so I don't think it's a matter of signal:noise as much as it is that you kind of have to grease the wheels with regard to the types of music you listen to so you're not getting routed to the same poo poo all the time.

Same but spotify. For as many issues as I have with spotify (as both a consumer and artist that uses it) it's been extremely good about getting to know the exact crazy bullshit I'm into and occasionally showing me bands I'd just never heard of at all

I think the most recent one that happened with was Tropical gently caress Storm

Re: honkin on bobo, that is such a perfect name for a bunch of old dudes who think they're funky

Has anyone said the fiona apple one that's like 90 words long yet

A Strange Aeon
Mar 26, 2010

You are now a slimy little toad
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The West Coast Pop Art Experimental Band's Part One and Vol. 2. They should have been consistent!

Snackula
Aug 1, 2013

hedgefund wizard

Simone Magus posted:

I don't think that's true for everyone, I think there is also a category of person (of any age) that thinks music sucks now

I don't mind people wallowing in their comfort zone forever but it annoys me when they feel the need to throw entire generations of music and musicians under the bus in order to justify it.

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames

Snackula posted:

I don't mind people wallowing in their comfort zone forever but it annoys me when they feel the need to throw entire generations of music and musicians under the bus in order to justify it.

Some motherfucker's always trying to say "the 70s sucked"

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
I'm late to the party, this is a good thread.

My points in response after reading it all:

- The world of rap music would be a better and more interesting place if Eminem had joined ICP like he wanted to. Can you imagine!

- A whole lotta boomers sure did like the beatles, but the tables have turned now and they suck, sell yer mono pressings to 65+'s before they die out like how old jazz and blues 78s or doo-wop is all worthless because the fanatics all croaked. Record stores won't even take 78s off your hands for free. The SWAT team is coming for your white album 1st pressings and butcher covers, unload now

- Thanks for the Onyx primer, right up my stylistic and era alley, but I never really checked them out past bacdafucup. I like those rare artists that basically do something well for decades without trying to change it up

- It's hackneyed to talk about the golden age of hip hop but it is true that things were a lot more dynamic when sampling wasn't quite as heavily policed/prohibitively expensive/not a thing you could get your label to budget for, when the album sales weren't quite so massive that the bigger artists could still aim at a niche audience and not at endless suburbia, and when as a genre it was not accepted in any mainstream "pop" way

- Good rap absolutely exceeds those date boundaries. Anybody who loves Onyx should love Conway the Machine. Just cause you don't like Drake or whatever doesn't mean Germ and Pouya or Spark Master Tape or something don't have something to offer you, and incidentally a lot of those acts are working in similar conditions to what I described above i.e. not trying to make platinum

- Finally, it's definitely between chocolate starfish and honkin' on bobo but I think the fact that limp bizkit were being tongue in cheek means bobo edges it. the pretentious coheed poo poo is bad too but a mega-selling serious mainstream act embossing a professionally photographed harmonica with their logo and putting those words over the picture is insane... the clown BJ implication is just the icing on the cake

Doctor Dogballs
Apr 1, 2007

driving the fuck truck from hand land to pound town without stopping at suction station


Deep Glove Bruno posted:

the clown BJ implication

hold up

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



ICP accepts only the most distinguished and talented rappers

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang

as snackula pointed out last page, if steven tyler is the one doing the honking, who is bobo? what kind of person is named bobo? aside from willie bobo who is cool and has nothing to do with this?

Simone Magus
Sep 30, 2020

by VideoGames
I just always assumed that honkin on Bobo is a euphemism for doing Coke, because everything is
Also if you've seen Steven Tyler on Joe rogan you definitely understand he has a lame enough sense of humor to think it's a really funny name

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
Is bobo cocaine? Let's take that one to the OED. Or more obviously, is it used for clown purposes? I would accept this also: Bobo could be the ape from mystery science theater. The point is he kinda made a sexual euphemism wherein he is the one honking. And Bobo is what? A clown or an ape. Or a pop sociology term for like rich boomers or something. If he's honking on rich boomers on that album, considering they might've been the ones buying it, he's getting awfully meta for a man who does so much cocaine

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy
I mean you guys might be overthinking it a bit, I think the harmonica's name is bobo and he makes honking sounds with it

Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang
who gives a harmonica a clown name? harmonicas are called stuff like "dusty" or "tootin joe"

Phlegmish
Jul 2, 2011



God I hate hair metal.

Antivehicular
Dec 30, 2011


I wanna sing one for the cars
That are right now headed silent down the highway
And it's dark and there is nobody driving And something has got to give

The extreme overwrought earnestness of Honkin' on Bobo's cover is definitely a mark against it. If you're doing to do a stupid album name because the band/lead thinks it's funny, it only works if it's really low-effort, like Weezer's Hurley, or when Wilco put out a free album named "Star Wars" and the cover art was MSPaint-looking captions on a cat photo.

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Deep Glove Bruno
Sep 4, 2015

yung swamp thang

Antivehicular posted:

The extreme overwrought earnestness of Honkin' on Bobo's cover is definitely a mark against it. If you're doing to do a stupid album name because the band/lead thinks it's funny, it only works if it's really low-effort, like Weezer's Hurley, or when Wilco put out a free album named "Star Wars" and the cover art was MSPaint-looking captions on a cat photo.

You make a good point - I was thinking of that in my initial post about Honkin' vs Chocolate Starfish and the Hot Dog Flavored Water, but the problem with using that standard is Chocolate Starfish also has a ludicrously serious-looking illustrated attempt to make that awful phrase into something "badass" looking.

I came down on the side I came down on because while I know that works against the case that they're making a joke of the album name, they clearly are because look at that goddam name. The serious cover just muddies the hot dog flavored waters, so to speak.

Deep Glove Bruno fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Oct 1, 2020

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