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Forcing some US states to actually maintain their freeways would be pretty great regardless of the self-driving cars aspect of it.
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What good does embedding poo poo in the roadway do, besides helping maintain lane position? It doesn’t solve any of the hardest problems with teaching computers to drive, all of which involve reacting to unexpected hazards. That fridge that fell off a truck doesn’t have an RFID tag in it to warn the computer that it’s a hazard. That driver that’s totally going to cut you off and any human can feel it coming doesn’t literally telegraph his intentions to the computer.
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^ this is why true self-driving cars are going to be a long time coming. Like yeah, cool, a computer has a much faster reaction time but the sheer mind boggling array of different scenarios that can crop up is incredible. As I'm sure I've rambled about in other threads before I can only really see it happening on motorway systems that are fully sensored and camera'd up where that information is being fed to each and every single self driving car on it constantly to assist their own sensor setups. Relying on the car itself to make every decision makes sense at present where you don't have these systems in place yet but you're asking an awful lot of them and they evidently gently caress up and kill people. The roads specifically built for them allows you full control over everything and you'd end up with a system where self driving cars could bunch up together within inches of each other to reduce traffic, possibly even on their own segregated roadways for additional safety. ..........but at this point you've just invented an overground train system with expensive personal carriages and a lot more points of failure.
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Pave the earthquote:Section 1: the future of the earth http://msherman.tripod.com/pave_faq.html
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Zorak of Michigan posted:One of the interesting bits of the boot Digital Apollo was that the guys building the lunar module guidance system developed it to the point where it could auto-land under most circumstances, and the pilots would just be bystanders until/unless something went wrong. The astronaut with the most knowledge of the system - I think it was Dave Scott - told them no astronaut would ever use it. It wasn't that they didn't trust it, it was that if the ostensible pilot wasn't already flying when something went wrong, the time it took him to orient and react might be longer than they had. And that wasn't a bad decision, considering the landing site fuckup on 11.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:^ this is why true self-driving cars are going to be a long time coming. Like yeah, cool, a computer has a much faster reaction time but the sheer mind boggling array of different scenarios that can crop up is incredible. https://clips.twitch.tv/ColdbloodedCredulousTriangleArsonNoSexy
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Another under-considered problem is that, okay, let's say you have a great machine-learning setup and a car learns how to drive itself given a wide amount of training data. It's not always immediately clear, depending on the sorts of algorithms used, exactly why it's doing anything it's doing. This is true of machine-learning in general. We have an unhealthy tendency to anthropomorphize any sufficiently advanced "AI" system and imagine that it's doing something similar to what a human would do in terms of its process to make a decision and respond to its environment, simply on the basis that the outcomes frequently appear correct and consistent with what a human would do, but that is not the case at all, and there's a much bigger risk that a given AI cannot adapt to a novel scenario by generalizing from previous behaviours.
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A guy is giving a bag of adblue away on our local Facebook neighborhood group. Apparently he thought it was window washer fluid, went as far as to pour it into the reservoir and use a bit...
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Me yesterday in the terrible car poo poo thread  Olympic Mathlete posted:Putting this in here but imagine it's continuing on from self-driving car chat.
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'self-driving cars are right around the corner' he said, to the flatbed tow truck/cleanup crew
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Ok, that last breakthrough in AI wasn’t it. But the next one will bring us self driving cars. I promise 
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No you see it was a mechanical problem, not an AI problem
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I work for a contractor for a major fibre broadband provider in the UK, and over the last couple of days we’ve had to replace six streetside fibre cabinets because idiots keep crashing into them and knocking out internet access for everyone in the area.
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Interesting one today, heading to work I drive along a dual carriageway. On occasion it is busy but in the past 6 months I interact with maybe a dozen cars in terms of passing in the 6/7 miles I'm on it. Today I pulled onto it and noticed way in the distance what looked like a police car sat in one of the lanes with the lights on blocking traffic. With there being very little traffic on it, it was easy to move over and pass and what do I see as I'm passing? A white Tesla Model 3 wedged into the hedgerow near the garden centre on the road. No idea how it got there, the roads are completely dry and as I said there's gently caress all traffic today, no other car around that it had hit... There's a couple of houses just before this that sit right by the roadside but nobody who lives in them is dumb enough to risk piling straight onto the road which is a 60mph limit without paying attention. It is a mystery. 
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It's a Tesla. You answered your own question.
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Olympic Mathlete posted:A white Tesla Model 3 wedged into the hedgerow near the garden centre on the road If there's a Tesla in your hedgerow Don't be alarmed now It's just a sad wreck From a defect
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This one's probably easier to explain with a picture.  Okay, 491 going east/west, 202 running north/south. Where 491 runs into 202, you've got three lanes, driveway at B is to a Wawa parking lot. I'm coming west on 491 entering at the bottom right of the screen. Light's red. You can turn on red there, but there's traffic headed north on 202 so nobody can turn and the lane is backed up all the way down to the Wawa exit. Woman in the SUV right in front of me helpfully decides to stop at A. Which is nice, lovely, she doesn't want to block the driveway to the Wawa, very considerate. A few cars coming the other way make the left in front of her, very good. Cue dude in pickup truck leaving the Wawa lot, he's at B and wants to turn left. He edges out into the westbound lane instead of staying at the stop bar. He's looking to his right to try to spot a gap in eastbound traffic that'll let him turn east. Meanwhile, the traffic stopped in the right turn lane begins to clear. Lady who every-so-considerately stopped at A is now getting impatient because B is now blocking her from advancing until he can make his turn, this isn't what she signed up for. He's still looking to his right. She now decides to go around him, since he's not going anywhere. She swings out into the are just west of the gore. He is still looking to his right. He now sees a gap in traffic so he can make his left. Then these three things happen simultaneously: She passes directly in front of his pickup, he turns his head to the left to look at where he's going, he accelerates. Note that he did not follow the correct order of operations, and smashes right into her SUV. They both say gently caress, he backs up out of the lane back to B, she proceeds straight to make the right turn where she can then take the other entrance into Wawa and do the whole 'we just ran our cars together' thing with him. Bonus: He's backed up into B, looking behind himself while in reverse. At this point, there's no traffic in front of me, I'm free to go. As I pass in front of him, he simultaneously looks forward to see where he's going and accelerates. I swing a bit wide and goose the pedal a bit to avoid him, and he reacts quickly enough to slam on his brakes and wouldn't have hit me anyway, but I'm glad I was giving him the eagle eye as I proceeded because I was certain he was going to make the same dumb loving mistake twice in the space of 10 seconds. This only reinforces my belief: always, always, always take the right of way if you have it. It's very nice you chose to not obstruct the entrance to Wawa while waiting for a red light to turn, but was it worth it? Was it really?
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Eh, for considerate lady A, if you're in for a penny you're in for a pound. Also warrants a horn honk & eye contact if you're gonna cross the guy's bow like that, if you're not gonna keep waiting. I do the same at the crosswalk for a stop-controlled driveway here. Usually, right-turning drivers have their heads craned to the left watching for a gap in traffic, parked over said crosswalk. A "Hey!" before you cross in front of them helps keep you from getting run over.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:If there's a Tesla in your hedgerow I love this an indescribable amount.
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BOOTY-ADE posted:If there's a Tesla in your hedgerow If you play it backwards you can hear it says: elon musk is sweet Satan the one who's twitter rants will make you mad who's power is insider trakin'
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Oh, he's going to scrape his bumper. Oh he's going to catch the wall. Oh he's going to turn too much. ...oh, he stopped. Something going to fall down? Another car going to come by and crash? .... 
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This is the car I briefly shared a Lotte parking lot with. Not sure what it is.
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Blue Footed Booby posted:This is the car I briefly shared a Lotte parking lot with. Looks like a '64 Buick Riviera
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I only know what it is because of Drive Angry https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9UbHuNHtIU
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totalnewbie posted:Oh, he's going to scrape his bumper. Oh he's going to catch the wall. Oh he's going to turn too much. Yeah, my brain went to the same places as yours but the punchline was SO MUCH BETTER than I could've imagined.
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Sigma posted:Pave the earth This is incredible how have I never seen this?
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One world, one people, one slab of asphalt.
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My monthly mileage has dropped to around 200km or so. That's including unnecessary rides. Whenever I get in the car now I fear I might become the subject of this thread. Good luck everyone I'll be getting groceries tomorrow.
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Lord Stimperor posted:My monthly mileage has dropped to around 200km or so. That's including unnecessary rides. Whenever I get in the car now I fear I might become the subject of this thread. Good luck everyone I'll be getting groceries tomorrow. 
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Dave Inc. posted:This is incredible how have I never seen this? You're under 40? When I say "alt.pave.the.earth" do you even understand the formatting?
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You must be this old to know about Usenet
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Vanagoon posted:I only know what it is because of Drive Angry There chrome letters on the side help out.
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MisterOblivious posted:You're under 40? Only four years shy of the cut and heeeeck no. I should have asked my brother, he was downloading Civ 1 illegally before that was a thing.
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First time I was on a decent sized bride in a lot of wind for a fire department call (so I'm out walking around) it was doing poo poo like that. I nervously asked the guy from the bridge commission if that was normal and expected. I was told in no uncertain times that if you're on a bridge with traffic or wind load and it's NOT doing that you better run like hell.
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