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Ice Phisherman posted:I'm not sure how you can really separate discussions about gender politics in a cyberpunk game from gameplay without talking about purely technical poo poo. The punk genre is inherently political and cyberpunk is queer coded as gently caress and a lot of people are finding that out the hard way that the newest AAA title is pretty queer and political in places and that the queer folk of the LGBTQ+ community are also pretty political and they have expectations too as they consume the genre and play games too. Its really not hard. One place to talk about quests and mechanics and stuff. One for dick chat. I fully agree 2 threads sounds great, but i think in 30 hours it probably won't matter
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i preordered today after vacillating for weeks as i always figured preordering is for rubes, this bug talk has got me worried. if it turns out to be a mess boy will i be kicking myself
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Simone Magus posted:Sorry, I thought you were serious when you said you "want to be" female. If all you meant was that you want to look pretty, that's okay too! Ahhh, just in the game, I thought it was funny everyone was doing all the usual (still valid) excuses people use when they want to play a different gender in a game like they prefer the voice acting or they want something different from being a man/woman all the time in real life. Me? I just want to play a girl character, I like choosing their clothes and hair. I just want to be pretty! Might go both boobs and penis this time though, would be an interesting experience.
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Simone Magus posted:What? No I didn't? You kinda did, but I think the whole thing was really just a misunderstanding because you thought they were saying they wanted to be a woman where I and others interpreted it as saying "I want to be a woman in game, because out of game I never wear frilly dresses" which is a subtle but significant difference. Vorik posted:I don't think people calling out your weirdly aggressive posts is thread making GBS threads. You should post less like an idiot. But this really isn't helping, there's no need to crucify her.
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Simone Magus posted:What? No I didn't? I mean you kind of did
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zhar posted:i preordered today after vacillating for weeks as i always figured preordering is for rubes, this bug talk has got me worried. if it turns out to be a mess boy will i be kicking myself Preordering doesn't even have the brainworm argument of getting bonuses this time, unless you want to buy a samurai hoodie (fair). All in all you messed up
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rap music posted:being an rear end in a top hat behind the Shield of Correct Opinion is extremely counter productive not necessarily the case here (i don't really know or care), but yeah this drives me crazy and is super counterproductive e:good news on the seizures, surprised this wasnt caught months ago
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Zaphod42 posted:Men can be fem too, normalize men wearing frilly dresses Simone Magus posted:Cool, a cis guy telling a trans person what is and isn't trans you did. it's okay, people know where you're coming from, but you responded strongly to Zaphod42's post and you probably owe them an apology
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Xachariah posted:Me? I just want to play a girl character, I like choosing their clothes and hair. Definitely always go with the option that has the cooler clothes and hair 
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Zaphod42 posted:But this really isn't helping, there's no need to crucify her. I got called an idiot I've been crucified lmao
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dragonshardz posted:It's more of a missed opportunity slash CDPR half-assing it. Being able to select vocal tone and pronouns independently of one another at chargen would be an extra step forward in representation. I’ve seen people excusing the lack of gender neutral pronouns by saying “but the Polish language is gendered!” Which, based off a quick google search seems to be the case but also the language seems to have gender neutral words, not sure how it applies to the greater language. How do gender neutral people refer to themselves in Polish? I’m completely ignorant of this (also it’s a bad excuse). Linking the gender to voice is stupid and I 100% expect there to be a day 1 mod to change that since it should be a simple flip of a switch. They should have just had pronouns be a separate option in creation.
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zhar posted:i preordered today after vacillating for weeks as i always figured preordering is for rubes, this bug talk has got me worried. if it turns out to be a mess boy will i be kicking myself Looks like youre a corpo rube buddy. Welcome to the club.
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zhar posted:i preordered today after vacillating for weeks as i always figured preordering is for rubes, this bug talk has got me worried. if it turns out to be a mess boy will i be kicking myself Cancel the pre-order and wait a week.
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Vorik posted:I got called an idiot I've been crucified lmao I think it's all settled now. we can leave it alone now  what lifepath are you planning on going first?
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It's a fast moving thread, people don't read nuance as well as they do under normal circumstances. Sorry to surprise this forum of mostly elderly people who have been on forums all their lives with this fact
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The Last Call posted:I don't remember if there were any patches for two and three when they released or not but I played them just fine. Never saw any bugs. Never had any issues. W3 had pretty significant bug fixes and content changes post launch. I know people like to go 'lol walkspeed', but 1.0 had a lot of issues with animation priority jank and queued actions/button presses leading to situations where there was upwards of a 5 second delay between hitting a button and your character actually doing it because it's still playing the animation of him slowing to a stop or him trying to line up correctly to get on his horse, ect. Originally it was designer intent that the animations be more deliberate but they specifically walked back on it after the feedback of 1.0. Edit: W3 Geralt also turned around with the grace of a garbage truck too and it made precision movement more difficult than it should have been. DeathSandwich fucked around with this message at 20:32 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Shammypants posted:Isn't this a future hellscape nightmare where we ruined the Earth and organize in small areas dominated by massive supercities? Isn't it probably true that as a society we didn't master gender relations and sexual issues? And that would be an interesting thing to explore. Problem is, the game appears to not do that. It appears to be all superficial with no real understanding of the issues. You would think with how much a game set in cyberpunk universe would maybe explore transhumanism and what transgenderism actually means when you can just swap body parts like it ain't no thing but instead they just threw dildos everywhere, slapped a trans sticker on the back of a car, and called it good. Edit: honestly I don't know why they've signal boosted the being trans positive and the ability to pick your genitalia if they implemented it so poorly and meaningless-ly. Is it all just to make up for those lousy tweets? stratdax fucked around with this message at 20:31 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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grieving for Gandalf posted:you did. it's okay, people know where you're coming from, but you responded strongly to Zaphod42's post and you probably owe them an apology That's a fair point. It's just discouraging when people keep "responding strongly" to me and others rather than having a good faith discussion Sorry zaphod! I like Douglas Adams too!
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Bust Rodd posted:You should all log off for a couple days Show yourself, coward! I will never log off!
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I know where they're coming from. Maybe it's just low self esteem or something but I know i'm not the super action hero so I don't really see rpg characters as 'me'. I'm just the puppeteer. If a game has a full character designer then it's an opportunity to come up with a backstory and to make a character. I never make 'myself'.
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Bust Rodd posted:You should all log off for a couple days It turns out the true Idiocracy was the forums all along...
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Not wanting to make your character yourself is fine. Claiming to not understand why other people want to makes you a moron, because it's the most basic human impulse imaginable. It's literally representation, in the most specific sense possible.
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stratdax posted:And that would be an interesting thing to explore. Problem is, the game appears to not do that. It appears to be all superficial with no real understanding of the issues. I have hope it may still explore some. Some reviewers said the side-quests were filler and lame and beelined the story, but other reviewers wrote gushing reviews of the side-quests and included stories like one where you help a disillusioned corpo lady team up with a group of hookers to buy out a strip club and manage it themselves. The game has just so much content and lots of reviewers are rushing through to post their review, so call be naive but I'm holding out hope we get some cool transhumanist stories in the side quests. Simone Magus posted:That's a fair point. It's just discouraging when people keep "responding strongly" to me and others rather than having a good faith discussion You were responding pretty strongly yourself  but its cool. As you may have seen I have a bit of a reputation on these here forums myself, but the irony is that I'm actually always engaging in good faith discussion and I never troll, I just myself sometimes get a little heated and passionate and also really enjoy deep dives on controversial subjects which tends to make most people dogpile on me and or write me off as a troll.
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grieving for Gandalf posted:I think it's all settled now. we can leave it alone now Gonna be a dude who gets crucified for betraying the corpos
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Lieutenant Dan posted:This is why I enjoy playing lady characters in games too, it's honestly refreshing/interesting to see the story from a different perspective than your average straightwhitedude videogameprotagonist Femshep best Shep.
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i bought on gog and reading up on their refund policy looks like i'm good to refund up to 30 days after the release even if i play it. they seem like a consumer friendly company, i almost feel bad for paying only 30 bux through a vpn for it. as for the other chat, if i can look down and admire the boobs or go 3rd person and admire the rear end i might play female. otherwise i've always found the straight white male characters most relatable.
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Palpek posted:Good, now add more dicks. I demand an entire field of dicks.
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Ice Phisherman posted:Femshep best Shep. Femshep Forever, plus her voice actor is really good, especially on the Renegade options edit: I'm actually one of those folks who gets pukey during flashing lights, so I am very glad they're coming up with a permanent solution because I want to play the cybergame, dammit
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thekeeshman posted:Not wanting to make your character yourself is fine. Claiming to not understand why other people want to makes you a moron, because it's the most basic human impulse imaginable. It's literally representation, in the most specific sense possible. Ah, but what if I am literally the dumbest poster to every touch a computer? What then? Checkmate, samurai. 
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Palpek posted:Good, now add more dicks. the braindance sequence is instead two floppy dildos beaning you over the head
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Ice Phisherman posted:Ah, but what if I am literally the dumbest poster to every touch a computer? What then? Speaking of which, I hope this game lets you roleplay as a total dumbass like every good RPG since fallout does
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https://twitter.com/jeffbakalar/status/1336355016521748483 No junk system 
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Lastdancer posted:I am ready to play the game nowww alreadyyyy *shaking in chair intensifies*
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