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Glazius posted:Man, the cryo talent domain in Mondstadt is some BS at level 88. I've got to keep on these downed cryo mages or else they'll start death juggling me even more than they usually do, but apparently they're also super cryo charged and spit out a death cloud that I can't dodge out of because when have I ever dodged in this domain? Took the L and ran it at 70ish instead, I'm only AR 47 so it's not like I could get to level parity anyway. An update: yes, it's an excellent argument for geo. Got Ningguang from the last banner, and with Power Plant Amber (4pc exile + Favonius Bow) + Prototype Malice on Ning's cheap as chips EB, Xiangling was busting out floorsweeper pyronados left and right.
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If I lack any real good polearms (I have 2 prototypes) and I think a 4* Dragon's something on my Xing, would the BP Polearm be a decent choice for Zhong? I have not bought the BP yet but I am around level 44 or 45 so I might as well pick it up since I will be completing it this go around.
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Dec 8, 2020 19:37
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Sirbloody posted:If I lack any real good polearms (I have 2 prototypes) and I think a 4* Dragon's something on my Xing, would the BP Polearm be a decent choice for Zhong? I have not bought the BP yet but I am around level 44 or 45 so I might as well pick it up since I will be completing it this go around. Don't sleep on forging a Crescent Pike. Its special ability is not an attack boost. Instead it adds a 100% proc to your normal hits with phys damage equal to the given % of your atk. If your polearm combo involves a bunch of rapid hits, the parallel proc will go off on all of them, and Xiang and Zhong both have one o' dems. Crit is the late-game god stat and Zhong has more big booms where that would matter, so if you don't have a better choice the BP polearm ain't bad, but all the same. Glazius fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Dec 8, 2020 19:45
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avoraciopoctules posted:The one thing I don't really have is good shields. I've toyed with Zhongli, Diona, Noelle, and Xinyan, but I haven't checked the numbers to see who would be best to boost after I hit level 50 and bring Keqing's power level up. If I'm choosing between those 4, which is the best to bring in if I mainly just want Big Shields? Zhongli has the most potential, imo. His scales off of HP, with the best % scaling per level, and his base HP is one of the highest in the game if not the highest. Diona's also scales off of HP, but at a smaller rate and she has about 4.5k less HP than him. On the plus side, her shield is situationally effective in the highest level content in the game, Abyss Floor 12, which is filled with Cryo enemies. The other two scale with DEF. I don't know if stacking DEF can match how big a shield you can get with HP, but it does mean that they can tank a lot of damage when shielded, provided that they're the ones in play. This is because their DEF will reduce how much damage the shield takes. If your aim is to make a big shield for your other members, though, this won't be as useful.
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Dec 8, 2020 19:47
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gandlethorpe posted:Zhongli has the most potential, imo. His scales off of HP, with the best % scaling per level, and his base HP is one of the highest in the game if not the highest. Thank you very much! I will make Zhongli my next priority, then. I'm looking forward to seeing how much he boosts Keqing's overall survivability
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Dec 8, 2020 20:19
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I use Diona for shields and she's really good. Diona is an extremely popular character atm because of how well she lines up with the 12th floor of the abyss.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:21
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No Wave posted:I use Diona for shields and she's really good. Diona is an extremely popular character atm because of how well she lines up with the 12th floor of the abyss. She's a fantastic support because she checks so many boxes. Bow user, cryo, shield, stamina reduction, healing, bartender puns.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:24
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Yeah - getting fat shields and fat heals from a single set of HP artifacts is such good value and the rest of your team can be entirely damage.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:27
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Sirbloody posted:If I lack any real good polearms (I have 2 prototypes) and I think a 4* Dragon's something on my Xing, would the BP Polearm be a decent choice for Zhong? I have not bought the BP yet but I am around level 44 or 45 so I might as well pick it up since I will be completing it this go around. It depends how you're using Zhongli, but if he's a burst support dps then crit rate on the BP weapon is nice. That being said the prototype grudge has energy recharge as its sub-stat which is very important for burst support. You could give him a energy recharge timepiece and use the BP weapon though. If you're using him has a main dps damage dealer then crescent pike is hands down the best weapon he can use, barring considerations for some of the 5 stars. It really boils down to whether you like him a lot and want him to be a part of your main team, as well as where your main dps is at. If they already have a great weapon and couldn't use something on the BP then that's a factor. I use Zhongli and was lucky enough to pull the skyward spine, which has energy recharge as its substat and is very nice. edit: something else I would consider is that we're apparently getting more craftable weapons in the next patch, maybe, so... I am holding on to my prototypes. Tsyni fucked around with this message at 20:40 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Dec 8, 2020 20:34
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Diona's part of my main overworld squad and I love her, but she has the most awkward heal in the game. It was really a task trying to cover all the healing and defensive support with her solo in Floor 12, especially if I had multiple characters in the red. She and Zhongli actually make a good pair because Zhongli can block enough damage to make her healing more manageable when it's needed.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:38
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re: Diona, she also negates the gimmick of the Mondstadt talent domain, which is one of the most annoying.Sirbloody posted:If I lack any real good polearms (I have 2 prototypes) and I think a 4* Dragon's something on my Xing, would the BP Polearm be a decent choice for Zhong? I have not bought the BP yet but I am around level 44 or 45 so I might as well pick it up since I will be completing it this go around. for Zhongli you'd likely want Grudge (ER%) or Black Tassel (HP%), though both he and XL can use the Crescent Pike if you're running them as the carry and not a support. with the rumor of new craftable options coming i would just make sure you don't use all your prototypes at once.
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dogsicle posted:re: Diona, she also negates the gimmick of the Mondstadt talent domain, which is one of the most annoying. That is what I am waiting for honestly to see what new craftable options are next. Right now I plan on using Zhong as a support dps, not as a main carry.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:48
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gandlethorpe posted:Diona's part of my main overworld squad and I love her, but she has the most awkward heal in the game. Oh absolutely. I supplement that with Xingqiu's rain swords, they pop about 3.6k hp for me right now. Fiona's burst sucks to use for healing because it's an aoe that spawns at a projectile that is targeted at an enemy. Placement is a constant issue and I feel like it's a lot smaller than Bennet's thumbs up fun circle. The real trick is to never need healing by maining Beidou and just shielding for 7k anytime something is about to hit you. SynthesisAlpha fucked around with this message at 21:11 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Dec 8, 2020 20:51
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Next set of craftables all seem to summon a falling icicle on hit, which deals extra on Cryo-affected targets. Honestly seems like a gimmick, but could be good for a sub-DPS supporting Chongyun.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:55
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The claymore is extremely relevant for Razor and Xinyan because the substat is physical attack. The others are pretty whatever.
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Dec 8, 2020 20:58
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I just crafted Prototype Aminus 
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Dec 8, 2020 21:12
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the strangest thing about Diona is her Skill being press/hold. the hold is strictly better in every single way (except cooldown I guess) and only takes like and extra .5 seconds. maybe if you're really trying to generate energy quickly you'd use press a couple of times?
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Dec 8, 2020 21:13
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Cooldown is a big deal though. I almost always use hold, but that's because I have Sacrificial Bow on her. Actually no, I use tap... to harvest fire flowers.
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Dec 8, 2020 21:19
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Ashenai posted:Cooldown is a big deal though. I almost always use hold, but that's because I have Sacrificial Bow on her. true, but the shield increases in duration when you hold too so it's kind of a wash. i dunno, just a strange little quirk that trips me up a bit if i accidentally press instead of hold.
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Dec 8, 2020 21:22
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nah hold is just better. Ok hold is more upsetting when auto aim goes wrong and tap is better in co-op with C2. But you should always hold in single player.
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Ashenai posted:I just crafted Prototype Aminus You think that's bad? I refined my Aminus.
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Yeah I very nearly did that too, with Crescent Pike. "Hey, prototypes are right there on the Stormterror loot table, I'll probably be drowning in them in a couple of weeks."
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Dec 8, 2020 21:29
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I do kind of regret refining my Crescent Pike because I never got another polearm prototype. A Grudge would be pretty useful right now...
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Some Numbers posted:You think that's bad? I refined my Aminus. Me, too. I didn't know! I DIDN'T KNOW!
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Pshhh. I crafted Whiteblind when I first started and didn't know about substats. When I got another prototype from the shop, I crafted Aminus, and not realizing the shop only sold one I fed the Whiteblind to my Aminus. But to make up for it, I've gotten two claymore drops 
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I've always said prototype refinement is the biggest trap in the game yet people go on and on about WL ascensions.
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I have no regrets refining my prototype malice (multiple times, even!) because I like having Barbara as a giant sack of HP that heals everyone's chip damage
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well my crescent pike is r4 because xiangling is the only spear user right? right??
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Some Numbers posted:You think that's bad? I refined my Aminus. I refined Prototype Grudge.  I've seriously felt a little apologetic about using Xiangling for co-op domains, which is often necessary since she's my best Pyro character and has been since I got her (after Anemo Traveler, who is dead weight in slime domains). Especially in AR45 domains...but I finally got a new polearm prototype this last Sunday! Things are looking up.
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So nobody's really talking about the gliding event with all the Zhongli drama, but I think it's really fun aside from some janky controls and underexplained mechanics. I hope it's them testing out some tech and that they're planning to add more complex movement mechanics in the future.Bloody Emissary posted:I refined Prototype Grudge. R3 Mappa Mare, no regrets.
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R4 crescent Pike, come at me
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Bloody Emissary posted:I refined Prototype Grudge. Tsyni posted:R4 crescent Pike, come at me No Wave fucked around with this message at 21:57 on Dec 8, 2020 |
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Dec 8, 2020 21:55
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Just R2 Crescent Pike and Aminus over here
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every time i run venti in lvl 90 domains the team ends up wiping on the abyss mages. any advice on how i can play venti in domains with abyss mages so my allies don't all suddenly insta-pop?
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I refined Noelle's Whiteblind because I assumed I would just get more Prototype drops from the bosses. Turns out... And now my only other claymore is a Favonius Greatsword. While being Razor-Curious and rarely using Noelle.
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Jinnigan posted:every time i run venti in lvl 90 domains the team ends up wiping on the abyss mages. any advice on how i can play venti in domains with abyss mages so my allies don't all suddenly insta-pop? You can bunch them together and use swirl tricks to break their shields at the same time Not sure if Venti is effective at it because of how is burst aims, but Anemo MC and Sucrose are really good at it.
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gandlethorpe posted:The fight with Geocube isn't so annoying so much as getting there repeatedly. The answer is to have Mona and just directly cross the water from the teleport location to the south-west. Geo boss is the most annoying just because it takes the longest to beat, but it's not exactly difficult. vvv Though I might still do this. I was originally going to put it on that distant island with all the crabs, but lately I've actually been pretty flush with crabs so that isn't as big of a concern. Bussamove posted:Seriously considering putting my teleport beacon there when I unlock it.
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I put mine on that rear end in a top hat hill right of the stone gate tp that you have to climb every day if you want the two free artifacts there.
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I put mine on the secret island in the northeast of the map because it's the best place to grab tons of crabs and I have an unhealthy fixation on mastering all the recipes.
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