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What's crazy is that the original words for "bear" in most European languages are lost to history. "Bera" in Old English just meant brown, you have to go all the way back to proto-indo-european to find a source word that isn't a euphemism. We know that the original word evolved to "arktos" in Greek and "ursus" in Latin, so linguists can just theorize based on how other words evolved in English. Best guess at the moment is something like urht, orht or roht
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So a brown bear is really a brown brown?
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flavor.flv posted:What's crazy is that the original words for "bear" in most European languages are lost to history. "Bera" in Old English just meant brown, you have to go all the way back to proto-indo-european to find a source word that isn't a euphemism. You know what, I think we're better off not knowing what the true name of bears is. I'm pretty sure that saying something's true name doesn't summon it in any situation, but I don't want to risk the exception of that rule being bears.
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Griefor posted:So a brown bear is really a brown brown?
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Griefor posted:So a brown bear is really a brown brown? The scientific name for the Brown Bear is Ursus Arctos, which translates as "Bear Bear".
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Cleretic posted:You know what, I think we're better off not knowing what the true name of bears is. I'm pretty sure that saying something's true name doesn't summon it in any situation, but I don't want to risk the exception of that rule being bears. https://xkcd.com/2381/
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Skwirl posted:Armageddon and Chasing Amy got Criterion releases. Piss drunk Ben Affleck commentary is, as far as I know, only on the Criterion edition. Ben Affleck posted:I asked Michael, ‘Why is it easier to train oil drillers to become astronauts, than it is to train astronauts to become oil drillers?’ and he told me to ‘Shut the gently caress up.’ So that was the end of that talk. Ben Affleck posted:I mean, this is a little bit of a logic stretch, let’s face it. ‘They don’t know jack about drilling’? How hard can it be?! Aim the drill at the ground and turn it on. Ben Affleck posted:Stunt acting is always fun to watch. [Makes repeated, exaggerated noises that sound like a child going down a slide.] Ben Affleck posted:Have you ever noticed that everybody in all these movies always has to be ‘the best?’ Bruce Willis is ‘the best’ deep-core driller? I didn’t know they rated deep-core drillers. Like, if you went around and asked somebody ‘Who’s the best deep-core driller?’ You know what I mean? Like, ‘I’m the best espresso maker in Manhattan.’ How do you know? Who’s keeping track of these things? Edit: one more that I love. Ben Affleck posted:This is where you have a random helicopter in the background for no real reason, just because you’re a big movie and you’re expensive and you can. Untrustable has a new favorite as of 14:47 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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For what it’s worth, many German words for a number of things (like animals) are the description of what it does, looks like, or what happens to it. Some of these are similar in other languages, some are reflected in English, and others are just...interesting. Schlagzeug = hit thing = drum Spielzeug = play thing = toy Flugzeug = flight thing = airplane Waschbär = wash bear = raccoon Stachelschwein = barbed pig = porcupine Krankenschwester = sick sister = nurse. Linguistics is fun!
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dialhforhero posted:For what it’s worth, many German words for a number of things (like animals) are the description of what it does, looks like, or what happens to it. Some of these are similar in other languages, some are reflected in English, and others are just...interesting. Let me throw in some Dutch too: Handschoenen = hand shoes = gloves Goedkoop = good buy! = cheap Naaktslak = naked snail = slug (homeless snail)
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In Russian "bear" is медведь (medved), which means "honey eater" and presumably derives from the same sort of linguistic taboo that led to Germans calling bears "brown ones" and Lithuanians calling bears "stompers".
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Just like a zombie movie where they refuse to use the word "zombie" and call them "walkers" or something like that
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Doesn't Finnish have like 30 different words for Bear, including "Long-dick"?
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“Arthur” has a reputation as a super traditional English name, but it probably dates to the Roman conquest and is a derivative of the Roman family name “Artorius”, which itself has to do with bears.
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Platystemon posted:“Arthur” has a reputation as a super traditional English name, but it probably dates to the Roman conquest and is a derivative of the Roman family name “Artorius”, which itself has to do with bears. "Tiffany" is a name that dates back to the 12th century, but it sounds too modern to be used by medieval fiction/fantasy writers
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Swedes say varg (which I think means "killer" or "strangler") as a euphemism for wolf, rather than the real word ulv. Presumably because of the the same superstition as the bear. As far as I know it's the only Germanic language that does this for that animal. Not even the other Scandinavian languages do. I remember our Swedish instructor (an old grandma from the northern country) was very hesitant to say the real word and discouraged us from doing it, so the taboo must be pretty strong to some people. Mak0rz has a new favorite as of 16:23 on Dec 30, 2020 |
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Beowulf means "Bee-wolf," ie bear
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dialhforhero posted:
porcupine comes from French and is literally spiny pork
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Pakled posted:Just like a zombie movie where they refuse to use the word "zombie" and call them "walkers" or something like that 
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dialhforhero posted:For what it’s worth, many German words for a number of things (like animals) are the description of what it does, looks like, or what happens to it. Some of these are similar in other languages, some are reflected in English, and others are just...interesting. 'Kranken' being the German word for sick is the best because it also means you get Krankenhaus and Krankenwagen.
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Wait a second, my e-book app has had The Great Gatsby in its public domain section since I downloaded it in March. Have I been reading.... illegal books 
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Daktar posted:'Kranken' being the German word for sick is the best because it also means you get Krankenhaus and Krankenwagen.
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:Krankenwiener I hope they can get back to Austria to see their doctor!
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Fatty Crabcakes posted:Krankenwiener You should probably get that looked at
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Daktar posted:'Kranken' being the German word for sick is the best because it also means you get Krankenhaus and Krankenwagen. Ich bin krank is great because it has the same energy as just yelling "I'M hosed"
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So objects of power are real after all
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Huh, I thought it was in the Newseum, but apparently it was returned to the FBI earlier this year.
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Mauser posted:porcupine comes from French and is literally spiny pork It’s more rooted in Latin with Porcus being the base for pig but it doesn’t matter because French is a Romance language and it’s all the same for this discussion! I was just pointing out how German (and other languages, English included) sometimes literally describe a thing, too! Linguistics s fun and cool and everyone should learn at least another language well imo!
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dialhforhero posted:It’s more rooted in Latin with Porcus being the base for pig but it doesn’t matter because French is a Romance language and it’s all the same for this discussion! I was just pointing out how German (and other languages, English included) sometimes literally describe a thing, too! The only foreign phrase I know is "Klaatu Verata Necto."
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dialhforhero posted:It’s more rooted in Latin with Porcus being the base for pig but it doesn’t matter because French is a Romance language and it’s all the same for this discussion! I was just pointing out how German (and other languages, English included) sometimes literally describe a thing, too! Oh no doubt, but I think this one comes by way of Old French in the same way a lot of words rooted in Latin did. 
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Untrustable posted:Piss drunk Ben Affleck commentary is, as far as I know, only on the Criterion edition. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ahtp0sjA5U It's amazing. You can just hear the open disregard Affleck has for Micheal Bay.
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Crane Fist posted:oh god what happened now
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