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GodFish posted:I think we see them (the Scopuli) approach a ship and then a stealth ship shows up next to it, but maybe it was disguised, or I'm just misremembering. Donno if book info is allowed here, but they don't know why they're being boarded. After being boarded, they get transferred over to the Anubis. The attackers get fresh with Julie, who's been spending a fair bit of time learning space-karate. She kicks the poo poo out of the attackers (with a cold intensity that partially makes Miller fall for her) and ultimately, she gets cold-clocked by someone out of her vision. The commander says something along the lines of "If this bitch makes another sound, shoot her" and they throw her into a storage locker. I don't think it had much to do with her being a Mao.
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Cannon_Fodder posted:Donno if book info is allowed here, but they don't know why they're being boarded. In the show they say something like "kill everyone but her. that girl is complicated... " (implying is because of who her dad is)
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Elias_Maluco posted:In the show they say something like "kill everyone but her. that girl is complicated... " (implying is because of who her dad is) Was this in the first episode? I can't remember that at all. I'll have to re-watch.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 19:49 |
The first half the ninth episode shows everything that happened from Julie's POV since the beginning of the series up to her death in the hotel room on Eros
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 20:06 |
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Yeah thats on S01E09, during her flashback edit: its actually "Hands off that one. She's a complication. Put her in here until I figure out what to do with her."
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Mu Zeta posted:Screaming Firehawk I liked the Easter Egg in the space country western bar scene.
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Yea, its pretty clear, I just forgot they had that whole scene explaining how Julie got to Eros. Though I am curious how she didn't hear everyone get protomoloculed. I wonder if the Julie Miller starts seeing is like the Miller Holden sees later. Or he's just bonkers due to being microwaved at high for 30 seconds. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Mar 2, 2021 |
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twistedmentat posted:
He was augmented without his consent. It's a sad backstory story.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 21:17 |
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Alchenar posted:He was augmented without his consent. It's a sad backstory story. He could have told the Roci crew about it, rather than using it to gently caress them over. I do like how casually Miller ices people. I think this rewatch is best for reminding me about how awesome he was.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 21:19 |
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It's funny how pretelling Julie's story throws everyone off. She was a prisoner on the Anubis when it helped take down the Donnager (you can hear the Anubis' crew running to battle stations and popping off railgun rounds in her intro.) As far as I can tell the rough timeline is 1.Anubissteals/collects Protomolecule from Phoebe Station burns for Eros. * 2. OPA gets wind of the plot, sends the OP-A-Team to intercept the Anubis on the Scorpuli. 3. Donnager arrives at Phoebe's remains and begins burning in the last known heading of the Anubis. 4. OP-A-Team "intercepts" the Anubis but they get wrecked and boarded. Julie is captured. 5. Anubis crew puts a Martian distress beacon on the Scorpuli and sets it up as a trap for the Donnager. 6. The Canterbury blunders into the trap, gets blown up. 7. Donnager picks up the Knight. * 8. Anubis and other stealth ships attack the Donnager. 9. Anubis is infected and scuttled. 10.Julie escapes the Anubis and burns for Eros in the Anubis' shuttle. 11. Holden blows up the Anubis. In retrospect, it seems pretty clear that the protomolecule on the Anubis escaped as a result of battle damage sustained fighting the Donnager. *At some point the Anubis is joined by the other stealth ships.
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# ? Mar 2, 2021 21:32 |
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Oh yea I didn't think of that, and you're right about the out of sequence telling of the story makes it a bit confused. I thought the Anubis had been there before the series started, but nope. Also "you two look like poo poo".
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Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:In retrospect, it seems pretty clear that the protomolecule on the Anubis escaped as a result of battle damage sustained fighting the Donnager. Nah, we see the protogen scientist who tells them to lock Julie up coughing a bunch, suggesting she probably got infected on Phoebe.
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twistedmentat posted:He asked for it when he snuck about the Roci and started broadcasting their location, and getting Erinwright's goon squad after the Roci crew. twistedmentat posted:He could have told the Roci crew about it, rather than using it to gently caress them over. I genuinely can't tell if you're playing along or if it's gone way over your head
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:I genuinely can't tell if you're playing along or if it's gone way over your head I am man enough to admit when I'm missing the joke. Are you talking about when he and the protomolocule become special friends? Every time they show Eros all I can think of Marge thinking potatos are neat. Hah, I forgot Amos's "you ever talk to a pedophile?" analogy. Of course he would know what its like to talk to pedos.
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Both the tv show and the book series will probably come to an end this year, or early next. I’m already starting to dread it. I’ve gotten so used to how good this series is for just raising the bar in type of scifi that I personally like that I feel like I just take it for granted now.
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twistedmentat posted:I do like how casually Miller ices people. I think this rewatch is best for reminding me about how awesome he was. Miller was indeed far and away my favorite as well. His relationship with Diago as well was great, he was trying to plant seeds to de-program Diago. Didn't work in the end for Diago, but Miller tried.
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Next season is that last one then? Sad!
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gfarrell80 posted:Miller was indeed far and away my favorite as well. His relationship with Diago as well was great, he was trying to plant seeds to de-program Diago. Didn't work in the end for Diago, but Miller tried. Yup, maybe Diogo would have remained invincible and not gotten his rear end crushed to dust by an elevator if Miller had not decided he'd rather be a ghost in Holden's head. Is Tycho in orbit around anything or is it just sitting there in space? twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 00:02 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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twistedmentat posted:I am man enough to admit when I'm missing the joke. Are you talking about when he and the protomolocule become special friends? Deus Ex my friend, Deus Ex. They are referring to something you've obviously never played.
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Anonymous Zebra posted:Deus Ex my friend, Deus Ex. They are referring to something you've obviously never played. I've played the first one, like 20+ years ago. I remember almost nothing about it.
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Regarding the Don Quixote stuff, I've felt that the show/books (much more apparent in the books, which is why I stopped reading them) have some gross libertarian undertones, in that helping people who don't "deserve it" is inherently bad. I missed that with Holden's idealism but I definitely noticed it with the Basic stuff on Earth.
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twistedmentat posted:I've played the first one, like 20+ years ago. I remember almost nothing about it. The actor who played the stowaway also played the main character of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. That's the joke.
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WrightOfWay posted:The actor who played the stowaway also played the main character of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. That's the joke. Oooh, okay that makes sense. I should probably play those one of these days. Man I forgot how great the attempt to blow up Eros is, Miller is ready to die and then wooosh, the Navoo misses and everyones like "the gently caress?".
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packetmantis posted:Regarding the Don Quixote stuff, I've felt that the show/books (much more apparent in the books, which is why I stopped reading them) have some gross libertarian undertones, in that helping people who don't "deserve it" is inherently bad. I missed that with Holden's idealism but I definitely noticed it with the Basic stuff on Earth. You mean the blithe caricaturization by the Martian fascist propaganda machine?
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vessbot posted:You mean the blithe caricaturization by the Martian fascist propaganda machine? If it was obviously just in-universe I wouldn't give a poo poo, lol.
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I wonder if the UN marines were headed to the Martian line because they realized that it was probably a safer option than standing and fighting against the Protomolocule Husk? And did Bobbie's CO get hit during CQC? he just kind of keels over.
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Yeah he took a PDC round in his back through his chest. A chest burster, you could say.
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Anita Dickinme posted:Yeah he took a PDC round in his back through his chest. A chest burster, you could say. Those things are probably the size of a tallboy, so that would make a mess.
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twistedmentat posted:Yup, maybe Diogo would have remained invincible and not gotten his rear end crushed to dust by an elevator if Miller had not decided he'd rather be a ghost in Holden's head. Tycho is mobile and has its own epstein/epsteins. It's in orbit around Sol somewhere in the asteroid belt proper, like Ceres. I was going to say like Ceres and Eros, then I looked up Eros and it's orbit around Sol is between Earth and Mars, and it's mean orbit is closer to Earth, which kind of broke my brain since it felt like it was further out in the belt. Like Tycho flung the Nauvoo out into the system at Eros instead of inward/across.
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packetmantis posted:Regarding the Don Quixote stuff, I've felt that the show/books (much more apparent in the books, which is why I stopped reading them) have some gross libertarian undertones, in that helping people who don't "deserve it" is inherently bad. I missed that with Holden's idealism but I definitely noticed it with the Basic stuff on Earth. that's not saying that "helping people who don't deserve it is bad," its making a point that earth literally has more population than they know how to deal with and more than enough wealth to help them, but refuses to do anything but the bare minimum of cutting them a barebones welfare check and telling them to learn to code. It has completely failed to raise up even those with ability and merit, like the dude who became an ersatz medic after being on the trade lottery for his entire adult life. Like, Earth in the Expanse could probably easily do public housing for all and institute make-work programs so that people could use their time and energy effectively, but that would cut into the wardrobe and liquor budgets of the errinwrights and avasaralas of the world. Babysitter Super Sleuth fucked around with this message at 03:09 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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I'm thinking about this too much, so help me out goons: In s1e5, Miller is looking at the data he found in the leg of Julie's dead data-broker pal. It tell us that the OPA somehow learned of an unlisted flightplan for a ship called the Anubis, departing Phoebe for Eros. Protogen probably leaked this intentionally to lure a ship there to bait the Donnager and distract Earth & Mars from the coming Eros shenanigans. The Protogen dudes react pretty quickly and calmly to the Scopuli incident, as if all is according to plan, so that would make sense. Later, in the s1e9 flashback of Julie on the Scopuli hiding behind an asteroid, their ship's sensors label the other ship as 'Anubis'. But as soon as they get close enough to get a clear view of the ship, the belter captain guy is like "Where did that come from?!" and Julie half-whispers something like "That's the Anubis..." as if she recognizes it? Maybe even knowing the Anubis is gunship from some kind of Mao family business chat after dinner years ago? But... they had planned to intercept a ship called Anubis the whole time? So, why does she sound half-surprised to run into the Anubis? Were they expecting the Ann-u-bus instead? Maybe Julie's line was supposed come across as a reply to the OPA captain's confusion, like "That IS the Anubis. (also we're hosed)" but it certainly doesn't sound like that to me. e: oh come on there was a post almost identical to mine on the last page and I missed it?! Roumba fucked around with this message at 03:24 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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WrightOfWay posted:The actor who played the stowaway also played the main character of Deus Ex: Human Revolution. That's the joke. He also provided motion capture footage for the hybrids!
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twistedmentat posted:Those things are probably the size of a tallboy, so that would make a mess. I was thinking about that too as I was typing. Maybe it was just shrapnel or a piece of the PDC round? I’m not sure but I just saw the episode a week or two ago so I can say how he died just not sure what actually went through him.
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Kazinsal posted:He also provided motion capture footage for the hybrids! This was one of the best Amos season 1 moment https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-rM5VyxVHk
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CommanderApaul posted:Tycho is mobile and has its own epstein/epsteins. It's in orbit around Sol somewhere in the asteroid belt proper, like Ceres. Whoa, that's crazy, i figured it was out in the belt, but that probably means it was old and busted because it was the earliest asteroid colony and once the further out ones got established all the effort was put into Ceres and any others. Also the MCR Flag really is ugly. twistedmentat fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Mar 3, 2021 |
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twistedmentat posted:Whoa, that's crazy, i figured it was out in the belt, but that probably means it was old and busted because it was the earliest asteroid colony and once the further out ones got established all the effort was put into Ceres and any others. Yeah in the books that's pretty explicitly the case, that's why Eros' economy revolves around casinos and cheap dock fees now.
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CainsDescendant posted:Yeah in the books that's pretty explicitly the case, that's why Eros' economy revolves around casinos and cheap dock fees now. It's also hilarious looking, a big grey potato floating in space. This also makes me wonder what the furtherest people have gone. Ganymede is a moon of Jupiter, which is pretty far out, and then Ceres is further out than that. Also I'm realizing what I thought were the season stories was wrong, I thought season 3 was the Prax season, but it starts in season 2.
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twistedmentat posted:This also makes me wonder what the furtherest people have gone. Ganymede is a moon of Jupiter, which is pretty far out, and then Ceres is further out than that. I seem to remember there are some tiny science outposts on one or more of the moons of Neptune (Triton?).
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Yeah. Saturn is the furthest place that has any real habitation, but there are science stations at Uranus and Neptune. E: Chapter 20 of Leviathan Wakes. "When riots grew on Ceres and throughout the Belt after the destruction of the Canterbury, a band of prospectors sympathetic to the OPA occupied the astronomy labs on Triton, turned the array in-system and broadcasted the location of every Martian ship in the system."
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twistedmentat posted:Whoa, that's crazy, i figured it was out in the belt, but that probably means it was old and busted because it was the earliest asteroid colony and once the further out ones got established all the effort was put into Ceres and any others. There was a really neat throwaway line in the book that I wish they'd kept: when they were sneaking around the maintenance tunnels, one of the characters remarked how cramped they are for a belter station. And another one replied in explanation, "the belters who built these tunnels weren't tall"
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