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Nfcknblvbl posted:syq. my bosses went back and forth with me pondering if they should get it and I kind of laughed at the speeds. it’s kind of nice in remote areas I guess. not just remote, even. i live in a 400k city and there are people around the edges who can't get any broadband above a couple of megs, it's absurd edit: totally dumb to get when you already have a fibre hook up tho. how many teslas does he drive
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Jonny 290 posted:they are ridiculously good for the price https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33RIpK3N8gM&t=299s "The gaps in the doors are better than what Tesla's got"
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Nitr0 posted:What a chud. There's no hope in hell that starlink will replicate a fibre connection. So that only means that he's such a chud he's doing it to "support the cause, love the car, etc." sounds like more of a bazinga than a chud to me tbh.
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work looked at getting starlink for a remote rear end side we had it went “LOL” and upgraded the v-sat instead
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mediaphage posted:not just remote, even. i live in a 400k city and there are people around the edges who can't get any broadband above a couple of megs, it's absurd two bosses, they bought their S models after I bought my 3. one of them is trading their Tesla in for a rivian. the other’s getting a cybertruck. I’m on the fence. I’ll wait until a year after they’re out
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why would you wait? i mean, you own a model 3, what could possibly happen in a year that would convince you not to buy one?
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infernal machines posted:why would you wait? preach i’d be lying if i said i didn’t kinda want a rivian tho
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"getting" a cybertruck
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mediaphage posted:lots of EVs can do this i believe power your house!* *up to one thousand watts
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Platystemon posted:power your house!* gosh that sounds like a lot. i can't imagine anyone needing any more than that
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Mar 14, 2021 06:39
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just make computers see, bing bong so simple
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just program a real AI to do it ez 
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the roads are designed to work using "optical intelligence" from a single pair of binocular cameras with 250ms latency. let me know how that goes in your car elon
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Platystemon posted:roads were not even designed
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"0-intervention drive" - touches steering wheel at least 50 times
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so musk is basically a lying salesman i get that but is his tweet just another not-so-subtle reference to how he mocks any car manufacturer that puts in lidar
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go play outside Skyler posted:"0-intervention drive" the accelerator too
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mediaphage posted:so musk is basically a lying salesman i get that but imagine being demonstrably wrong, but also being super loving smug about it he'd fit in pretty well in yospos
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also, the NTSB would like the NHTSA to start doing their job
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i mean i am by no means a cv person in any way but i’ve never understood why giving computers more sensors and poo poo is a bad thing aside from a.) complexity and b.) being a cheap rear end in a top hat
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mediaphage posted:i mean i am by no means a cv person in any way but i’ve never understood why giving computers more sensors and poo poo is a bad thing aside from a.) complexity and b.) being a cheap rear end in a top hat he'd have to pay someone royalties for using a patent he doesn't own to put lidar on the front. that's the reason why teslas do not have lidar. elon is pissy he has to pay people for their inventions.
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tesla failed to do it years ago and now they’re committed to a lie
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mediaphage posted:i mean i am by no means a cv person in any way but i’ve never understood why giving computers more sensors and poo poo is a bad thing aside from a.) complexity and b.) being a cheap rear end in a top hat sensor fusion is hard they already ignore radar input anywhere near overpasses because they can't differentiate between something above the vehicle and something in front of the vehicle. this also may be related to their tendency to drive under tractor trailers
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its not that they failed to do it and are committed to a lie. they deliberately nixed using lidar because of patent rights. i read something that said it's around 10k/car for a proper lidar setup, and tesla is already unable to make money selling cars.
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I think it's both? Lidar is still very expensive if they have to put it in every car, but they've told people they'll be able to deliver fsd as a software update, and if they start working on new fsd software that relies on lidar they would have to basically admit they're abandoning development of fsd for existing cars. Honestly I don't think Elon really even gives a poo poo, though. It's just like a theranos thing where he tells his employees "No I don't want to pay for lidar so do FSD without it" and if they complain he fires them. To be fair it's not like anyone has real FSD even with lidar anyway, but Tesla isn't able to do even lower levels of driver assistance safely, and they're incredibly brazen about lying so by all rights they should be regulated/sued out of existence. mystes fucked around with this message at 15:02 on Mar 14, 2021 |
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infernal machines posted:sensor fusion is hard i have no doubt about that, but it does seem like patent issues are more likely the underlying cause. that's hilariously terrifying to know, though. where do the patent issues come into play here, does anyone know? is it a cost function where the patent is explicitly related to using lidar in an adas or is it because the sensors themselves are expensive? i feel like companies are coming out with cheaper iterations on the latter every year mystes posted:To be fair it's not like anyone has real FSD even with lidar anyway, but Tesla isn't able to do even lower levels of driver assistance safely, and they're incredibly brazen about lying so by all rights they should be regulated/sued out of existence. for sure, i just find his antagonism toward it hilarious
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I think it's mainly just the cost of the sensors and hopefully solid state lidar will change that.
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mystes posted:I think it's mainly just the cost of the sensors and hopefully solid state lidar will change that. ahh okay. in that case i expect we'll see it in probably every non-tesla car someday. i know how costs grow over huge production numbers but it seems like we have multiple companies touting sub-$100 lidar sensors at this point
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greg the peanut posted:One of the founders at my work got Starlink despite clearly already having fibre internet. Last teams meeting was hilariously awkward because he just kept dropping his connection randomly. Would have been funnier if we didn’t have to repeat every second point because he has one of the final votes on any major decision. the ceo of my company is a mega bazinga. whole family has Teslas, he encourages others to get them (even if he doesn’t pay them a salary to afford one lol) and all that. the upshot to this is I’ve learned that any IT expense can be justified by saying it’s the best, most cutting edge tech out there. it’s his kryptonite lol. he will pay anything to be perceived as being on the leading edge. yeah I’m riding the titanic to the bottom but my budget isn’t a problem at least.
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hey if we use a time lapse video that makes it harder to notice just how many times someone has to correct the car, then the car works!
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it's also possible that there's a Mobileye situation going on with the LIDAR patents where the people licensing the technology won't let you do anything stupidly risky with it that might give their tech a black eye.
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infernal machines posted:imagine being demonstrably wrong, but also being super loving smug about it
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Shifty Pony posted:it's also possible that there's a Mobileye situation going on with the LIDAR patents where the people licensing the technology won't let you do anything stupidly risky with it that might give their tech a black eye. didn't tesla get around this by just stealing the mobileye stuff and not paying for it?
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:the ceo of my company is a mega bazinga. whole family has Teslas, he encourages others to get them (even if he doesn’t pay them a salary to afford one lol) and all that. What a coincidence, it just so happens that I create the most cutting edge technology out there. For the low low price of the remainder of my mortgage I can deliver an even more cutting edge version of any open source technology that your company uses today.
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tk posted:What a coincidence, it just so happens that I create the most cutting edge technology out there. For the low low price of the remainder of my mortgage I can deliver an even more cutting edge version of any open source technology that your company uses today. my solution will be several times as cutting edge as tk’s, sure my consulting fee is steeper but I think you’ll find that the exact cost of a 3br russian hill flat is what it takes to get ahead in this competitive environment
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I've worked with Quirex and TK and can vouch for them, through my own AI-driven machine-learning post-delivery assessment. Totally worth it for the peace of mind
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i just submitted a proposal that's nothing but a $ number in the seven figures, presented without description other than "1000%"
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I’m honestly floored no ones done that to him yet. it’s pretty widely known in the company that he goes top shelf every time.
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