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Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌

goatsestretchgoals posted:

that exchange is dumb as hell but 'we ran out of room on the backup drives, can we delete some of your poo poo?' is a solid 2nd dumbest


Pekinduck posted:

Yeah its the equivalent of having employees sign a sheet to take a sugar packet by the coffee machine.



The space shortage was due to a storage solution our ITC people installed having 1/4 of the space that was advertised (the followup on this is going to be a war in itself) but which somehow managed to display as if the max space was the advertised space right up until error messages presented upon write attempts, and we can't just delete multimillion-cell datasets (some of which are delta-load only and which potentially can't be reconstructed from source due to the programs that created them no longer operating) as we please without confirming whether they're redundant or not. We simply can't have local working knowledge of which of the tens of thousands of files are still in use in a team of 5 when we support hundreds of users. The main files relating to the backups are on a virtual machine so if there's an outage and the backups are gone, then that's it and everyone eats poo poo for it.

It's a far from ideal situation.

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Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Breetai posted:

The space shortage was due to a storage solution our ITC people installed having 1/4 of the space that was advertised (the followup on this is going to be a war in itself) but which somehow managed to display as if the max space was the advertised space right up until error messages presented upon write attempts, and we can't just delete multimillion-cell datasets (some of which are delta-load only and which potentially can't be reconstructed from source due to the programs that created them no longer operating) as we please without confirming whether they're redundant or not. We simply can't have local working knowledge of which of the tens of thousands of files are still in use in a team of 5 when we support hundreds of users. The main files relating to the backups are on a virtual machine so if there's an outage and the backups are gone, then that's it and everyone eats poo poo for it.

It's a far from ideal situation.

Yikes that's not, Ah well, you could, have you considered, uh yeah you can, I think...

Perhaps become a monk at a remote monastery?

Batterypowered7
Aug 8, 2009

The mist that chills you keeps me warm.

Breetai posted:

The space shortage was due to a storage solution our ITC people installed having 1/4 of the space that was advertised (the followup on this is going to be a war in itself) but which somehow managed to display as if the max space was the advertised space right up until error messages presented upon write attempts, and we can't just delete multimillion-cell datasets (some of which are delta-load only and which potentially can't be reconstructed from source due to the programs that created them no longer operating) as we please without confirming whether they're redundant or not. We simply can't have local working knowledge of which of the tens of thousands of files are still in use in a team of 5 when we support hundreds of users. The main files relating to the backups are on a virtual machine so if there's an outage and the backups are gone, then that's it and everyone eats poo poo for it.

It's a far from ideal situation.

Lmao, that reminds me of those tech videos where the person buys a "1tb" Micro SD card but it's really a 64gb one that's been flashed to say it's 1tb or some poo poo.

goatsestretchgoals
Jun 4, 2011

Breetai posted:

The space shortage was due to a storage solution our ITC people installed having 1/4 of the space that was advertised

i re-read, sorry that i implied you weren't doing your job, lovely at-bar-on-phone phrasing

also,

Pekinduck posted:

Perhaps become a monk at a remote monastery?

goatsestretchgoals fucked around with this message at 07:00 on Mar 21, 2021

Breetai
Nov 6, 2005

🥄Mah spoon is too big!🍌
Appreciate the apology.

Thankfully we've got the situation under control now, but that's mainly down to the fact that we've freed up a few hundred GB of data which should possibly tide us over until we change our mainframe later this year, at which point we won't need to rely on the VM/backup model that we're currently using.

The original user was very lucky that the way they presented the info was ambiguous enough that followup clarification was needed, otherwise everything would have been deleted as advised and we'd be either screwed the next time the VM went offline, or would need to spend lots of time running manual backups from the VM if we were lucky enough to identify that the deletions were done to otherwise unrecoverable files.

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
my boss doesn't know computers or her point of sales software that well and I while I'm not a computer person, I certainly know a lot more but she says I click too fast

zedprime
Jun 9, 2007

yospos
"You click too fast"
"What, its a computer? There's no such thing"
*Therac-25 software engineer breaks out into a cold sweat somewhere*

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Breetai posted:

The space shortage was due to a storage solution our ITC people installed having 1/4 of the space that was advertised (the followup on this is going to be a war in itself) but which somehow managed to display as if the max space was the advertised space right up until error messages presented upon write attempts, and we can't just delete multimillion-cell datasets (some of which are delta-load only and which potentially can't be reconstructed from source due to the programs that created them no longer operating) as we please without confirming whether they're redundant or not. We simply can't have local working knowledge of which of the tens of thousands of files are still in use in a team of 5 when we support hundreds of users. The main files relating to the backups are on a virtual machine so if there's an outage and the backups are gone, then that's it and everyone eats poo poo for it.

It's a far from ideal situation.

:killing:

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

zedprime posted:

"You click too fast"
"What, its a computer? There's no such thing"
*Therac-25 software engineer breaks out into a cold sweat somewhere*

can't say I click too fast because it doesn't even support mouse input, but there is a lockstep function implemented in in all the scripts set up for our database software I've been talking about, because we're able to type by hand faster than the system processes input.
The system designed for use with a 2MHz 8080.
Now running on 2018ish modern laptops and desktops.
And the bloody thing still won't run full speed.

Testikles
Feb 22, 2009
I can't get into too much detail but my team has been fighting a long protracted war with a team in another division who has decided that:

1. Their division is exempt from our corporate mandate
2. Their job is to do what we do as a corporate function exclusively for our division

As an analogy, imagine if a department in your company setup a parallel HR Department because "they can't take the risk of you hiring unqualified people" but then they keep hiring highschoolers.

Testikles fucked around with this message at 16:20 on Mar 21, 2021

goatface
Dec 5, 2007

I had a video of that when I was about 6.

I remember it being shit.


Grimey Drawer

Plant MONSTER. posted:

my boss doesn't know computers or her point of sales software that well and I while I'm not a computer person, I certainly know a lot more but she says I click too fast

You should have listed your pro APM on your CV.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

Testikles posted:

I can't get into too much detail but my team has been fighting a long protracted war with a team in another division who has decided that:

1. Their division is exempt from our corporate mandate
2. Their job is to do what we do as a corporate function exclusively for our division

As an analogy, imagine if a department in your company setup a parallel HR Department because "they can't take the risk of you hiring unqualified people" but then they keep hiring highschoolers.

There's somebody's ego making all this a problem where there shouldn't be isn't there?

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

Testikles posted:

I can't get into too much detail but my team has been fighting a long protracted war with a team in another division who has decided that:

1. Their division is exempt from our corporate mandate
2. Their job is to do what we do as a corporate function exclusively for our division

As an analogy, imagine if a department in your company setup a parallel HR Department because "they can't take the risk of you hiring unqualified people" but then they keep hiring highschoolers.
The devil on my shoulder says you should jump ship to the other team. They will be recognized for their innovative disruptive effort, whereas yours will sink.

Pekinduck
May 10, 2008

Breetai posted:

Appreciate the apology.

Thankfully we've got the situation under control now, but that's mainly down to the fact that we've freed up a few hundred GB of data which should possibly tide us over until we change our mainframe later this year, at which point we won't need to rely on the VM/backup model that we're currently using.

The original user was very lucky that the way they presented the info was ambiguous enough that followup clarification was needed, otherwise everything would have been deleted as advised and we'd be either screwed the next time the VM went offline, or would need to spend lots of time running manual backups from the VM if we were lucky enough to identify that the deletions were done to otherwise unrecoverable files.

I apologize as well, I should have known there was more to the story.

Whipstickagostop
Apr 30, 2006

Planet: Xeno Prime
Our line of business software changed their naming convention from master and slave accounts to parent and child accounts.
One of the Directors was really annoyed about this for some reason and phoned me up to tell me he was writing a strongly worded email to the Managing Director of the software company.

:bahgawd: Why did they change it? I hate it!
:eng99: ...Because "Master/Slave" comes across as pretty racist...
:bahgawd: Who told them to use "Parent/Child"? Why didn't they ask what we wanted to use?
:eng99: ...Because it is already a well-established term in programming and it would be an absolute nightmare if each company used their own terms...

I swear he was hoping I would say I chose those terms so he could get lovely with me.

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Whipstickagostop posted:

Our line of business software changed their naming convention from master and slave accounts to parent and child accounts.
One of the Directors was really annoyed about this for some reason and phoned me up to tell me he was writing a strongly worded email to the Managing Director of the software company.

:bahgawd: Why did they change it? I hate it!
:eng99: ...Because "Master/Slave" comes across as pretty racist...
:bahgawd: Who told them to use "Parent/Child"? Why didn't they ask what we wanted to use?
:eng99: ...Because it is already a well-established term in programming and it would be an absolute nightmare if each company used their own terms...

I swear he was hoping I would say I chose those terms so he could get lovely with me.

Let me guess, this Director also doesn't care for BLM, vegans, cyclists or LGBT+ people.

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


Hey, there’s nothing wrong with hating cyclists

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Yes there is.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Anyone who willingly wants to ride in the street *closer* to cars on a bike instead of on the sidewalk where they won't be squished like Grape Escape doesn't deserve respect, so find the people at your work who are riding 15 mph on an avenue and put thumb tacks in their tires imho

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
its illegal to use a bicycle on the sidewalk where i live

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Have you ever seen or heard of a cop stopping and ticketing someone for that

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

AHH F/UGH posted:

Anyone who willingly wants to ride in the street *closer* to cars on a bike instead of on the sidewalk where they won't be squished like Grape Escape doesn't deserve respect, so find the people at your work who are riding 15 mph on an avenue and put thumb tacks in their tires imho

Ah yes the best hot take, where you condone destroying people's property, just because those people chose to legally ride a bicycle on the road, as both a form of exercise, and a budget-friendly way to travel to work.

AHH F/UGH posted:

Have you ever seen or heard of a cop stopping and ticketing someone for that

It depends on whether the cyclist is black.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

lmao the dude lumping cyclists in with BLM and marginalized groups has some spicy tepid takes

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Rockman Reserve posted:

lmao the dude lumping cyclists in with BLM and marginalized groups has some spicy tepid takes

The venn diagram of racists and whether they hate things such as rights for ethnic minorities, vegetarianism, LGBT+, cycling and environmentalism is a perfect circle.

SniperWoreConverse
Mar 20, 2010



Gun Saliva
Trying to ride on the sidewalks around here is a mistake, because they're more hosed up than the roads and in some cases just missing.

In the newer sections there are specifically no sidewalks on purpose.

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

guy who barges into a discussion about workplaces and instantly starts a derail about cyclists out of nowhere: gee why does every one hate cyclists

titty_baby_
Nov 11, 2015

AHH F/UGH posted:

Anyone who willingly wants to ride in the street *closer* to cars on a bike instead of on the sidewalk where they won't be squished like Grape Escape doesn't deserve respect, so find the people at your work who are riding 15 mph on an avenue and put thumb tacks in their tires imho

Do u know anything about biking lol

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Rockman Reserve posted:

guy who barges into a discussion about workplaces and instantly starts a derail about cyclists out of nowhere: gee why does every one hate cyclists

Learn to read. I mentioned it in passing, poisonpill started the derail.

Further, I've posted in this thread before multiple times.

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

titty_baby_ posted:

Do u know anything about biking lol

Yeah I ride from my home to work (before the corona) and gently caress cops and their poo poo rules, I’m staying as far away from car drivers any chance I can

Also I’m not serious about thumb tacking their tires, chill other guy

That’s another poo poo thing about working from home is that I don’t get to do exercise and work at the same time, I have to specifically set aside time for that now

Steakandchips
Apr 30, 2009

Fair enough mate.

Outrail
Jan 4, 2009

www.sapphicrobotica.com
:roboluv: :love: :roboluv:

AHH F/UGH posted:

Yeah I ride from my home to work (before the corona) and gently caress cops and their poo poo rules, I’m staying as far away from car drivers any chance I can

Also I’m not serious about thumb tacking their tires, chill other guy

That’s another poo poo thing about working from home is that I don’t get to do exercise and work at the same time, I have to specifically set aside time for that now

Just lol if you're not cardio-jerking it to porn on one of your two WFH monitors 8 hours a day.

Actually, if you combined that with some light stretching would that satisfy the basic 30 minutes of exercise a day?

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
i mean, if i rode a bike, i think i would prefer the sidewalk cause holy poo poo i don't trust cars and the people who commandeer them.

the only time i've heard of a pedestrian being hit with a bike was me when i was a toddler and the cyclist was my brother and i got scraped to poo poo it was badass!

SkyeAuroline
Nov 12, 2020

AHH F/UGH posted:

Anyone who willingly wants to ride in the street *closer* to cars on a bike instead of on the sidewalk where they won't be squished like Grape Escape doesn't deserve respect, so find the people at your work who are riding 15 mph on an avenue and put thumb tacks in their tires imho

equal respect to those who oppose bike lanes. or, yknow, reducing auto traffic in general.
turns out there are ways to make bikes work great in urban environments, you just have to start by not treating the car as equally holy to the cross. and of course America is bad at treating either one as part of a whole and not as the sole solution. wild.

Workplace stuff: hiring a temp. Despite needing full time people. And having the budget for full time people.
Please tell me this is a "temp work, contract at end of temp period" or something before we waste a week

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

Considering how many drivers I see browsing instagram and poo poo on their phones while driving around and poo poo, yeah there’s no loving way I’m willingly going to choose riding a bike closer to cars if it’s possible to ride somewhere else

edit: to tie this back into workplace, I forgot to mention the cool mailroom guy at my work ate poo poo riding on one of those single fat wheel electric skateboard things to the office, so the guy who was replacing him on Friday in the mailroom hosed up my shipping order and sent something to Hawaii accidentally

AHH F/UGH fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Mar 21, 2021

HugeGrossBurrito
Mar 20, 2018
lol did i seriously get two reports for "anti cyclist bullshit" what is going on here

edit- lol come on guys im not probing anyone can you try to get along and find some kind of common ground here for instance, work, it sucks

HugeGrossBurrito fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Mar 21, 2021

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
spin class gone awry

Rockman Reserve
Oct 2, 2007

"Carbons? Purge? What are you talking about?!"

HugeGrossBurrito posted:

lol did i seriously get two reports for "anti cyclist bullshit" what is going on here

lmao no way

AHH F/UGH
May 25, 2002

lmao The detail was absolutely justified now hahaha, namaste

Plant MONSTER.
Mar 16, 2018



I was watching simpsons at 0.75 without knowing until a scene where homer and bart were getting back massages at a hotel and the noises they were making were super drawn out like a youtube poop
I'm feeling a little anxious cause i can't stop picturing this scenario

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Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

AHH F/UGH posted:

Have you ever seen or heard of a cop stopping and ticketing someone for that

I actually did get yelled at by a cop on foot once for it, but it was 20 years ago and I don't think they would have chased me or anything.

:shrug:

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