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8/10, a few unavoidable nitpicks but dumb and well-paced fun overall. Thankfully they've pretty much entirely given up on trying to shoot monster fights from the point-of-view of human characters, allowing for them to be coherent, satisfying, and kinetic. The hollow earth stuff is still insanely, ridiculously stupid and probably my least favorite part of this cinematic universe's internal mythology, but what are you going to do. Music was good when Wingard gets to use his favorite synth-wave sort of stuff, not so good when Junkie XL tries to do store-brand Ifukube.
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Zotix posted:Kong saved the day at the end, but Godzilla is definitely the apex titan. I got the impression that Godzilla was the apex titan for the earth's surface as always but Kong basically became the Hollow Earth enforcer, which also used to be how things were run back in ancient times
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:11 |
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Well that was absolutely everything I was hoping for. Definitely my favorite version of the Monsterverse Godzilla his speed and constant use of the atomic breath is aces to me. The fights were loving great, and I really loved Mecha G. His form really works better in motion. I have to admit I was a bit disappointed that Mecha G wasn't in disguise as Godzilla but it all worked out in the end. A+ would recommend
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:20 |
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Barry Foster posted:I think the difference is that psychic powers and flying saucers and all that are just obviously silly, hokey poo poo, whereas "alpha wolf/pack mentality" pseudoscience plays a very active role in contemporary discourse and ideology. Yeah it's this. "Alpha" mentality is a huge, toxic part of society and directly and negatively affects people on a daily basis. Lots of people are really loving tired of the constant boosting of this garbage theory. Aliens calling down space chickens is goofy fantasy. Alpha theory leads to people being shot due to toxic masculinity.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:26 |
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I enjoyed it, good times.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:48 |
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Excited for tonight's Discord strim
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 17:55 |
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I fully disagree with Godzilla not having personality. He has plenty. its just built on the back of the previous two movies. He could have used more screen time, but this is not his movie. This movie is Kong's, and it should be. Godzilla dominates this franchise and has two of the three movies centered on him specifically. Kong's only got the one movie, and no one, not in universe, believes he can win
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:06 |
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I just wanna know why Kong has no dong I'm serious, it bothers the hell out of me
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:11 |
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Release the King Dong Cut
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:15 |
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Simone Magus posted:I just wanna know why Kong has no dong e: Actually are we even sure he's the male? I mean either way there are questions
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:26 |
MrMojok posted:If Legendary Pictures had any balls at all, every Kaiju would have gigantic loving tumors growing on it, or be suffering from stomach or bowel cancer, or both, from feasting on so much radiation and furthermore It's hypothesized that big animals don't die from cancer at the same rate as humans and other smaller animals because their tumors have to grow so large to kill them that by that time the tumors have grown their own hypertumors that kill the original tumor! https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/47/2/317/719209 Also, whales apparently have more anti-cancer genes, but hypertumors are way cooler so I'm going with that.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:28 |
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teagone posted:Excited for tonight's Discord strim What time is the stream?
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Burkion posted:I fully disagree with Godzilla not having personality. He has plenty. its just built on the back of the previous two movies. He could have used more screen time, but this is not his movie. This movie is Kong's, and it should be. Godzilla dominates this franchise and has two of the three movies centered on him specifically. Kong's only got the one movie, and no one, not in universe, believes he can win If this is @ me. I'd clarify that I think they did show personality but I felt like they changed his character. he seemed more reptilian and sinister here. VS the more crusty bear movements and dignity he showed in the previous movies. I really liked that vibe from the previous two as matching the godzilla I projected onto the suits I watched growing up.
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Detective No. 27 posted:What time is the stream? [edit] I'll be doing the Scener room thing again for those who have HBO Max, but will again also be streaming in the Discord server for those without.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 18:54 |
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The military industrial complex making work for itself. Makes me sick. King Kong would've won.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 19:03 |
The human stuff in this is dumb as poo poo but it knows it's dumb as poo poo and isn't up it's own rear end trying to make us care about these human nobodies like the first two. Say the explanation, make a joke, and then get the gently caress outta the way. Perfect. Loved the movie.
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Xguard86 posted:If this is @ me. I'd clarify that I think they did show personality but I felt like they changed his character. he seemed more reptilian and sinister here. This is totally on purpose. They hooked up his arch nemises brain to a giant killer robot and it was driving him nuts because he was threatened. And then on top of that, Kong shows up. When the situation is resolved he calms down.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 19:15 |
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liked it enough but im bummed the action just felt like two regular characters duking it out instead of actual giants the kotm characters were barely in it which is always a plus
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 19:29 |
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About to double feature this and Monster Hunter. All I'm hoping for is either 1) I have fun with at least one of them, or 2) I at least have more fun than I did with KOTM (which I thought loving sucked)
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 19:30 |
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This was so similar to bvs lol
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 19:34 |
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There sure are a lot of competent actors trying to sell sub Scooby Doo level dialogue, lol E: Finished it. Lot most reviewers, I loved the monster stuff and disliked the human stuff. Kong had the best arc of anyone. Mantis42 fucked around with this message at 21:21 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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I rewatched G14 just now and it’s kinda crazy how “realistic” it is compared to GvK. It’s only been 7 years and two sequels, but now we’ve got THE HOLLOW EARTH, intercontinental hyperloop pods, anti-grav spaceships, massive Monarch bases, humans piloting giant mecha via The biggest tech plot point in G14 is “the MUTOs cause EMPs, so stick an old school detonator in that nuke”.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:21 |
Big Mean Jerk posted:I rewatched G14 just now and it’s kinda crazy how “realistic” it is compared to GvK. It’s only been 7 years and two sequels, but now we’ve got THE HOLLOW EARTH, intercontinental hyperloop pods, anti-grav spaceships, massive Monarch bases, humans piloting giant mecha via Compare the first Godzilla to the 4th in that series. It's the trajectory you kinda have to take if you wanna keep going.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:23 |
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I like the kaiju stuff getting more fantastic, with the inclusion of crazy stuff like an upside down Hollow Earth. The human tech turning sci fi didn't add anything good to the series, except I guess the ugliest MechaGodzilla design in Godzilla history.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:29 |
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https://twitter.com/rottentomatoes/status/1377305794417332225?s=21
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:35 |
I loved the hell out of that. I realized once I started the movie that I didn't even know what the premise was going in, other than "monster fight monster", because the trailer hadn't revealed anything about it. Because they didn't need to. Then they were like, "Hollow Earth, energy source, Kong has genetic memory to get us there," and I was like, "I mean, yeah, sure, why shouldn't that be what the movie is about, I guess?" The movie was way weirder than I was expecting, but in a good way. I like KotM more than some people around here, but I think that movie occasionally takes itself too seriously, considering it's a dumb "monster fight monster" movie. This movie does not have that problem. It is very silly, and very fun. And does not waste time. The opening feels almost rushed, but in a way I appreciated, because it felt like the movie was telling you, "We know, you want to get to the good parts, just let us get through the setup, we'll be quick." Less than 2 hours, it knows what kind of movie it is. So did MechaGodzilla turn evil because it was possessed by the soul (or whatever) of the monster from KotM? Or was that just a standard AI that went bad? Because for most of the movie, I was kind of agreeing with the head of Apex. Like, yeah, we probably should have our own defense against Kaiju and not be reliant on Godzilla. In the last 2 movies, he would occasionally take a while to show up, while thousands of people died. Having our own line of defense is probably a good idea. Why is he the bad guy, again? And then his plan went to poo poo, so I guess that's why. I did find it funny that they somehow managed to use even less of Kyle Chandler than the last movie. He was completely useless in this movie. But it's not like I wanted more of him. I miss Charles Dance. Only real complaint. Loved it. thrawn527 fucked around with this message at 21:43 on Mar 31, 2021 |
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:39 |
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I don't even understand what Charles Dance's character even is supposed to be in retrospect. He was an ecoterrorist in KotM but he gave Ghidorah's head to a megacorp that wants to make it's own kaiju to secure human dominance. What?
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:46 |
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Apex's plan was to kill Godzilla, not supplement him Godzilla shooting a hole through the planet to scream at Kong was awesome
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:46 |
JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Apex's plan was to kill Godzilla, not supplement him Wasn't it both, though? Kill him in order to become the one true defender of humanity? JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:Godzilla shooting a hole through the planet to scream at Kong was awesome Oh absolutely.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:48 |
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This was alright, a strong 7/10 - but barely - held up by the kaiju action. It's better than KoTM to some degree but I wanted more classic monsters to show up or make a cameo since this is it for Legendary. Also a complete goddamn waste of Lance Reddick. He does gently caress all. Why was he even cast with that incredible voice? I'd swap him with Alexander Skarsgard. And holy poo poo the side plot with Millie Bobby Brown and her pals was absolute garbage. Exposition after exposition on things they should have NO KNOWLEDGE of. gently caress. I will say the little girl and her mom ARE very good. That stuff was interesting, well acted and a joy to watch. Needed more heart like that. Not quip machines. Loved the little homage to Kong stuffing a tree down Godzillas throat when he stuffs the axe down there, lol. Hopefully the Toho movies take the seriousness of these and bless them with more monster on monster action. I think the Godzilla anime is out tomorrow, eh? PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:49 |
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Maybe, I just wasn't sure you got that they wanted to kill godzilla, not just have a fast react option until he showed up or something evil apex man whose name i've already forgotten made his need to be gozilla's "alpha" made that clear i also agree that all the "alpha" language was disappointing, harmful, and stupid e: i don't think the point of mechagodzilla was to be the "true defender of humanity," I think it was "show this rear end in a top hat who's in charge around here," hence all that alpha language
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:50 |
I also loved the big bad guy not getting to finish his speech. I'm a sucker for big evil speech tropes getting messed with.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 21:53 |
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seems like many of the reviews are 2.5 stars out of four, or 6/10, etc. etc., so it is getting by fresh through these razor thin margins. hey, good enough
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:06 |
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Oh no now Mechagodzilla is haunted by the ghost of King Ghidorah was my read on it and it's exactly the level of dumb I was expecting. I loved it.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:06 |
Mantis42 posted:I don't even understand what Charles Dance's character even is supposed to be in retrospect. He was an ecoterrorist in KotM but he gave Ghidorah's head to a megacorp that wants to make it's own kaiju to secure human dominance. What? They say his deal in KotM. He's an eco terrorist who funds his operation by selling kaiju poo poo. He's probably off blowing up offshore drilling platforms or something.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:10 |
Captain_Person posted:Oh no now Mechagodzilla is haunted by the ghost of King Ghidorah was my read on it and it's exactly the level of dumb I was expecting. Yeah, that was how I read it, too. Which is ridiculous, but fun and insane. But someone mentioned an AI, so I was curious.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:10 |
I enjoyed that the one responsible for all the mayhem is an unscrupulous tech CEO, who builds a false god, because he feels mankind (he) should be in charge from his own pride and hubris. Corporate billionaires are the literal personification of the mistaken alpha/gorilla (lol) mindset, and they're also responsible for maintaining the system that spreads this garbage when they aren't doing it personally through social media and tv interviews.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:12 |
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Fun movie but man that design is even uglier than the one in Ready Player One. Kiryu still reigns supreme.
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:15 |
One man's mad crusade to burn the world down just to not be a beta cuck next to Chadzilla
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# ? Mar 31, 2021 22:15 |
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And in the end, Godzilla and Kong decide they can BOTH be Chad. The morale: Dudes Rock.
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