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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:It's crazy to me that Awkwafina got famous via a viral Youtube video rapping about how much better her vagina is than other vaginas and has released one album, but been in nearly half a dozen $300+ million movies since. She's been acting in minor roles since 2013 and hosted several TV shows and won a Golden Globe in 2020, it's not like she went directly from Youtube to Oceans' Eight
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Alexander Hamilton posted:The Mandarin being some loser actor was one of the genuinely hilarious things to come from the MCU and I’m bummed they’re abandoning that. They didn't abandon it. Slattery was only ever a front for the real Mandarin - the movie didn't hide this.
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bushisms.txt posted:The Lonely Island makes fun of people like her People having fun? Alexander Hamilton posted:The Mandarin being some loser actor was one of the genuinely hilarious things to come from the MCU and I’m bummed they’re abandoning that. Ah that's sucks, I didn't realize that was supposed to be the 'real' Mandarin in the trailer. Hopefully the People's Mandarin comes back in some form.
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A certain set of people being jazzed about Ben Kingsley playing the Mandarin and then losing their minds about the reveal was unironically the best comedy from the movie. In Shang-Chi, his Dad is allegedly based on the Mandarin, but won't be related to his comic version in almost anyway. Unless they have been hiding some massively story twists in casting and production, then he doesn't have the same costume, backstory, or looks as the comic version. Also, his rings aren't alien technology. But, I could see that being a twist/plot point that would be easy to keep under wraps compared to the others. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Apr 19, 2021 |
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Jedit posted:They didn't abandon it. Slattery was only ever a front for the real Mandarin - the movie didn't hide this. I thought the whole organization was made up by Guy Pearce but maybe I’m wrong. It made sense as a continuation of the other Iron Man movies, where the terrifying Other was really just a front for a white capitalist rear end in a top hat.
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Alexander Hamilton posted:I thought the whole organization was made up by Guy Pearce but maybe I’m wrong. It made sense as a continuation of the other Iron Man movies, where the terrifying Other was really just a front for a white capitalist rear end in a top hat. Nah, the bad guys who kidnap Tony Stark before he's Iron Man are part of the Ten Rings: you can see their flag in the background when they film his hostage video.
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Apr 19, 2021 18:06
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thrawn527 posted:It's funny, because I'm seeing some people on Twitter who live in Sydney saying it was filmed there and saying it clearly looks like it, especially the bus scene at the end. I feel like they had to slap "CALIFORNIA" on the front of the bus to make it clear where it was set. I think that’s just meant to be California St which is one of the larger, more prominent streets in SF
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omg chael crash posted:I think that’s just meant to be California St which is one of the larger, more prominent streets in SF Sure, that's the "in universe" reason it's on the bus. But I stand by my reason the filmmakers put it in the movie. They could have picked any street. They chose to plaster "CALIFORNIA" on the front of the bus so you'd know where it was set, since they filmed it in Sydney, Australia. Which is hilarious, to me.
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Yeah, the way it ultimately plays out is that the Ten Rings is real, the Mandarin is real, Guy Pearce was pretending to be them with the help of the actor, but the real one was still real and secretive.
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Apr 19, 2021 18:31
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thrawn527 posted:Sure, that's the "in universe" reason it's on the bus. But I stand by my reason the filmmakers put it in the movie. They could have picked any street. They chose to plaster "CALIFORNIA" on the front of the bus so you'd know where it was set, since they filmed it in Sydney, Australia. Oh yeah, that’s fair
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Apr 19, 2021 19:04
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thrawn527 posted:Sure, that's the "in universe" reason it's on the bus. But I stand by my reason the filmmakers put it in the movie. They could have picked any street. They chose to plaster "CALIFORNIA" on the front of the bus so you'd know where it was set, since they filmed it in Sydney, Australia. No they did film some in San Francisco https://abc7news.com/marvel-shang-chi-shang-chi-movie-steamboat-filming-san-francisco/7189370/ The article even mentions the bus from the trailer
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Shang-Chi's dad is Fu-Manchu, but since he hates the racist novels featuring him he just calls himself the Mandarin now.
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stev posted:People having fun? Imagine if any comedian's routine was speaking with a hyperbolic Asian accent in the last decade. It wasn't even funny, it was just her leaning on the visual of a small Asian woman with a big personality. And then she drops it the second she makes it. Black culture was a costume for her.
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PlushCow posted:No they did film some in San Francisco https://abc7news.com/marvel-shang-chi-shang-chi-movie-steamboat-filming-san-francisco/7189370/ Oh I didn't realize that. Every article I had scene so far just mentioned Sydney. My mistake.
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According to IMDB almost everything was Sydney except some second unit stuff in SF. https://m.imdb.com/title/tt9376612/locations But this could, of course, be wrong.
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I’m kinda tired of rich people superheroes. I like the action and Simu Liu but man if you already have to make adjustments because of the Fu Manchu stuff could we have not gotten another rich guy?
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DC Murderverse posted:I’m kinda tired of rich people superheroes. I like the action and Simu Liu but man if you already have to make adjustments because of the Fu Manchu stuff could we have not gotten another rich guy? Shang Chi and the Legend of the Crazy Rich Asians
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I don't think Shang-Chi is technically rich. He isn't a billionaire in the comics. He just used to be a part of the ~*secret society of assassins bent on world domination*~ The random goons in the League of Shadows in Batman Begins weren't rich, but they were part of an organization that had an unclear (but probably large) amount of resources and influence. Shang-Chi left a decade ago and seems to be working at some blue collar job in San Francisco.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Shang Chi and the Legend of the Crazy Rich Asians I wonder if there is a connection between Crazy Rich Asians doing so well and Shang Chi getting greenlit.
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bushisms.txt posted:And then she drops it the second she makes it. Black culture was a costume for her.  She's also explicitly said the Awkwafina persona was meant to be something she could turn on and off so not a good look in general. more if you reduce it to "just having fun" the way that Danielle Bregoli and Whoah Vicky do
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Edward Mass posted:
Confirmed https://twitter.com/IGN/status/1384245987221282819?s=20
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I wonder if the earlier story about him being concerned about taking the role due to COVID (perfectly understandable) was just a negotiation tactic (also perfectly understandable).
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thrawn527 posted:I wonder if the earlier story about him being concerned about taking the role due to COVID (perfectly understandable) was just a negotiation tactic (also perfectly understandable). Seems like it, at the very least I think it's clear WB made certain that they could announce the film was started and that they got Keaton back after wave of bad press in recent weeks
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Violator posted:I'm not familiar with her outside of Crazy Rich Asians, did she really have a strong hip-hop persona? Watching the My Vag video for the first time the whole thing seems similar to The Lonely Island? I definitely see the criticism of her "co-opting black culture," particularly for her earlier online stuff, but I still genuinely like her presence in movies. The Farewell is a tremendously good movie and she does a very good, understated job in it.
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There's a leak of Funko Pops and official merchandise from Shang-Chi that seems to indicate it is way crazier and supernatural than the trailer looked. - There's a giant dragon that looks like a white/red Fin Fang Foom that is just labelled "The Great Protector" that seems to indicate they either are taking Fin Fang Foom in a different direction, they are going with actual alien dragons from the comics, or the "twist" is that the dragon protector is actually an evil Fin Fang Foom. - The 10 Rings that look like large bracelets in the trailer are also supposed to be "rings" that fit on the end of the nail of a dragon. If they go with the "alien dragon" angle from the comics, then this would mesh with the comics lore of the rings being alien. - There's a bunch of weapons and shields that look like they are made of dragon scales. - Shang-Chi, Katy, and Wenwu all have "normal" clothes and a costume. If they do go with that certain character, I hope they factor this comics plot detail into their origin in the movie: 
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that's the only Fing Fang Foom that people care about so it'll probably be a touchstone in one way or another
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Flash movie started filming almost exactly 3 years after the original date it was supposed to release in theaters. -just long enough for me to kill Iris!
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Timeless Appeal posted:We're gonna make our own Flash movie! With Batman! And another Batman! Ya know what... forget the Flash movie. 
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:The Flash movie started filming almost exactly 3 years after the original date it was supposed to release in theaters. DC out-New Mutantsing Marvel.
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Edward Mass posted:
Three minutes later, they finished.
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I just hope they don't directly reference anything from the Whedon cut. Let me live in my Zack Snyder fantasy land, dammit!
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"Oh hey! You're my Bruce!" "Not quite. I come from a parallel universe where you and I are very similar but much lamer. In fact we're meeting for brunch in an hour"
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:She's been acting in minor roles since 2013 and hosted several TV shows and won a Golden Globe in 2020, it's not like she went directly from Youtube to Oceans' Eight She got famous off doing her immensely corny minstrelsy gag in 2012 and kept doing it until a couple years ago despite people pointing out it's hosed up and racist. Without that she'd probably be a nobody. If the positions were reversed and some non-Asian actor had tried to break out by performing music while sounding like Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's people would rightfully flip their poo poo. I must've missed the thing where she said it was a "persona" because last I read about it was that she claimed the blaccent and "hood" aesthetic was her natural way of speaking because of where she grew up - which is obviously not true since she dropped it as soon as she started getting more serious roles. By all accounts she's a decent enough performer in most things and probably will go on to larger success but the way she got famous will always be off-putting enough that I won't (pay to) watch anything with her in it.
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Mat Cauthon posted:She got famous off doing her immensely corny minstrelsy gag in 2012 and kept doing it until a couple years ago despite people pointing out it's hosed up and racist. Without that she'd probably be a nobody. If the positions were reversed and some non-Asian actor had tried to break out by performing music while sounding like Mickey Rooney in Breakfast at Tiffany's people would rightfully flip their poo poo. Part of the problem is that she herself is not white. Which feels real loving weird to write but here we are When Iggy popped in doing the same routine, a lot of people poo poo down her throat over it, though not enough to derail her career. She did that her own self. But because Awkawafina is Asian she tends to get a bit more credit than she deserves in this regard.
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Mat Cauthon posted:She got famous off doing her immensely corny minstrelsy gag in 2012 and kept doing it until a couple years ago despite people pointing out it's hosed up and racist. Are you talking about her 'My Vag' song? Because that was a parody of this Jewish rapper: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRO1SVeU1p4 I'm not trying to be the Awkwafina Defender (I'd barely heard of her before I googled her yesterday) I'm genuinely curious
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I have little investment on Aquafina, but Hell Yeah let’s get black and Asian people to fight eachother for our amusement. Check out this take: Wu Tang Clan is cultural appropriation. They aren’t Chinese!
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:I have little investment on Aquafina, but Hell Yeah let’s get black and Asian people to fight eachother for our amusement.
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