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Chuckles, some obscure, unvetted company with no background in audits doing an election audit with little oversight while seemingly breaking all the rules that exist to maintain accountability and traceability is the opposite of 'T'ransparency.
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mango sentinel posted:The group responsible is BEGGING people to believe they were not working as state actors, which is a little suspicious to me but we will probably never know. Somebody in the Kremlin called them and said "if the Americans blame us for this, you're proper hosed".
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May 10, 2021 20:26
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I think there's a weird mix of people who sincerely think there was obvious fraud, and people who absolutely know that everything is clean but are opportunistically trying to use it to fundraise. The kind of person who has their poo poo together enough to actually pull off a cheat is probably smart enough to realize it's all risk, no reward.
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May 10, 2021 20:26
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Murgos posted:Chuckles, some obscure, unvetted company with no background in audits doing an election audit with little oversight while seemingly breaking all the rules that exist to maintain accountability and traceability is the opposite of 'T'ransparency. I think you owe someone an apology***! *"wrote a check to trump" **"the receipt" ***"eventual pardon"
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May 10, 2021 20:28
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VitalSigns posted:I'm kinda surprised they're not smart enough to realize they needed a plan to plant fake evidence. They actually thought they would find... bamboo, about 40,000 ballots worth, that were "smuggled in from SE Asia". Sadly, I am not joking about it... Also, with regard to the Maricopa County's sheriff going off on them about routers and passwords, it's actually bi-partisan pushback overall to the request, because not only is Paul Penzone (Democrat and Maricopa County Sheriff) refusing and pushing back, but the Maricopa County Attorney's office (lead by a Republican) and the Maricopa County Board of Supervisors (4-1 Republican:Democrat split) are refusing it on the basis of potential impacts to local and national security, privacy, pending investigations, etc. My guess is that it doesn't go anyway, but unfortunately Doug Ducey has no spine and won't start to help publicly push back against the AZ Senate which is expanding its power day-by-day with this. Dr. Arbitrary posted:I think there's a weird mix of people who sincerely think there was obvious fraud, and people who absolutely know that everything is clean but are opportunistically trying to use it to fundraise. Canned Sunshine fucked around with this message at 20:35 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 20:33
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Eric Cantonese posted:So Biden's going to have to go a bit on the defensive due to underwhelming April 2021 job report numbers. Hopefully my twitchiness about "Dems in disarray," is just Pavlovian reflexes and not based on the actual situation. The administration actually mostly did the opposite and spent the weekend pushing the rest of their agenda with the message that we need more assistance to ensure a strong economic recovery.
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May 10, 2021 20:35
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Wasn't last month's jobs report absurdly great, way above expectations? Not surprising that this month' report would slump coming from a high.
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May 10, 2021 20:39
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The 120-day "blanket pause and review" of all executive actions and agency rulemaking that was implemented in January is starting to end. So, expect a bunch of agency rulings and executive policy announcements soon. Big one (but, not surprising) is that many of the suspended trans health rules are going to stay gone permanently. One rule that people are sure to throw a shitfit about is that hospitals that provide services like hysterectomies, hormone therapy, gender reassignment surgery, etc. for health issues unrelated to trans health must provide them for trans health reasons as well (including religious hospitals that accept Medicare or Medicaid money). quote:US restores transgender health protections denied by Trump https://apnews.com/article/health-care-transgender-sex-discrimination-77f297d88edb699322bf5de45a7ee4ff
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May 10, 2021 20:41
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First round of voting in the GOP Primary in VA is over. Youngkin leads. quote:After the first round of counting Monday, Youngkin had 33% of the weighted vote, followed by Snyder at 26%, Chase at 21% and former Virginia House Speaker Kirk Cox at 13%, according to returns provided by the party. Ranked choice kicks in and eliminates candidates until someone gets above 50%.
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May 10, 2021 20:48
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SourKraut posted:Here locally in AZ, the general thought is that they're hoping to find anything that will help to justify the voting "reform" laws that the GOP-controlled House and Senate want to push for. Ducey has been noncommittal on whether he'd support it, in part because for any greater push for higher office, he's going to need the "moderate" voters that broke for Sinema, Kelley, and Biden and who think stuff like this is bullshit, while also needing the support of Trump supporters obviously. I just hope Michelle Ugenti-Rita ends up getting redistricted into competition with some worthless republican who never does anything but has more seniority and is a man, and they have to fight for a seat. She's been behind most of the big voter suppression bills in the last few years. I don't know her deal, when I told her that her ballot harvesting law seems to assume that everyone has easy access to outgoing mail (i.e, a sealed box with a slot that only the post office has access to, rather than an outgoing mail bin in the apartment office) and she told me that if people in apartments can find a way to mail in their mortgage checks every month, they can find a mailbox for their ballot. My brain sorta froze, trying to figure out whether I should say: a: Renters don't have a mortgage b: It's not a felony to ask your neighbor to drop off some mail on their way to work c: who uses checks other than to write VOID on one and set up direct deposit?
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May 10, 2021 20:52
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:First round of voting in the GOP Primary in VA is over. Chase is the one who's gonna throw a fit and run as a third party candidate if she loses, right?
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May 10, 2021 20:53
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Rea posted:That Wasserman prediction continues to baffle me. Unless he's just tweeting out random predictions because it'll get him attention, and I don't think he's at that point yet, surely he of all people should understand how polarization is killing crossover voting in the US—and, by extension, the possibility of a state that voted for Biden by 10% coming anywhere near electing a GOP candidate. He was one of the first people to note that crossover districts (i.e. Biden + GOP rep or Trump + Dem rep) were at an all-time low after 2020! Uh... my state went > 10% for Biden and still elected a GOP governor though?
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May 10, 2021 20:58
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GlyphGryph posted:Uh... my state went > 10% for Biden and still elected a GOP governor though? Maryland or Massachusetts? Either way, the dynamics get more complicated when you're dealing with a popular incumbent governor that does their best to keep their head down in an otherwise-unfriendly state, but I believe broader polarization theory still holds true.
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May 10, 2021 21:00
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Rea posted:Chase is the one who's gonna throw a fit and run as a third party candidate if she loses, right? Yep! Which is the funniest possible option and the "safest" to avoid potential oops-we-elected-a-nutcase situations. also if she loses she will probably demand a recount and refuse to concede because obviously the election was a fraud
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May 10, 2021 21:17
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Gotta say that the Republican party internal elections turning into a circle of candidates all pointing at the others and shouting "no you're the voting fraud!" is pretty amusing. I hope they choke on all their paranoia.
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May 10, 2021 21:19
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https://twitter.com/rmc031/status/1391714180714074116 This is interesting, because it attributes part of the cause not to in-school spread, but rather to increased mobility by adults who no longer had to stay home to watch their kids. They analyzed areas with high community spread, so they stop short of saying all school openings are bad - CDC says it's fine if community spread is low and precautions are taken - but that they can be if they are opened in areas with high community spread. They do allow that the paucity of contract tracing efforts likely underestimate school infections, but still it's an angle I hadn't considered and it makes sense. https://twitter.com/igorbobic/status/1391849428097568775 Sorry I passed out because I saw that McConnell was softening his negotiating position and the shock of it sent me into a fugue state zoux fucked around with this message at 21:25 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 21:20
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You can tell kids and teenagers to wear masks and follow the rules You can't tell dumbass anti-vax parents or adults who go back to work, so this checks out to me.
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May 10, 2021 21:26
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Well rouse yourself because he didn't really. The very next clip says they'll only negotiate after dems fail to rally against them. And that you can only pay for infrastructure with tolls and gas taxes, definitely not by revisiting the 2017 tax bill. https://twitter.com/therecount/status/1391728642020069380?s=19 ILL Machina fucked around with this message at 21:37 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 21:34
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VitalSigns posted:I'm kinda surprised they're not smart enough to realize they needed a plan to plant fake evidence. it has a real 'flat earthers building a backyard rocket to disprove the curvature of the earth' vibe I expect it to go similarly. mango sentinel posted:The group responsible is BEGGING people to believe they were not working as state actors, which is a little suspicious to me but we will probably never know. Their statement was one of the stranger things I've read in a while. Someone clearly just realized that poo poo rolls downhill. Herstory Begins Now fucked around with this message at 21:42 on May 10, 2021 |
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May 10, 2021 21:36
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TulliusCicero posted:You can tell kids and teenagers to wear masks and follow the rules "Parents just don't understand." - 20th century philosopher Willard Carroll Smith, Jr.
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SourKraut posted:They actually thought they would find... bamboo, about 40,000 ballots worth, that were "smuggled in from SE Asia". Sadly, I am not joking about it... I mean that's what I was referring to yeah. When they announced this bullshit audit after multiple nonpartisan audits found no problems, contracted a pro-Trump firm peddling the lies to do it, and kicked out all the journalists except OAN or whatever I thought "oh ok they're just going to plant the evidence then" but I guess they just really believed all the dumb lazy lies that Biden did all the election crime right in the open and no one involved even bothered to try to cover it up and it would all just be there waiting for them? They brought the UV scanners because of that QAnon theory that Trump secretly marked all the real ballots with UV ink, they apparently think that bamboo fibers and, idk, Panda fur was just going to tumble out of all the Biden ballots with "Made In China" stickers on them. I know Trump knows he was lying to the extent that he's consciously aware of his lies rather than just mentally rewriting his own reality, and I know all the dumbasses who believe everything they see on Facebook and Newsmax don't know that he's lying, but I figured there was some middle layer of ghouls who were behind this going "ok guys we need to plant the evidence so we can justify more laws against black people voting", on the other hand maybe postmodern politics doesn't require that level of effort. You can just say the swamp defeated the audit or w/e and then pass whatever laws you want.
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zoux posted:Sorry I passed out because I saw that McConnell was softening his negotiating position and the shock of it sent me into a fugue state EDIT: VitalSigns posted:I mean that's what I was referring to yeah. TheOneAndOnlyT fucked around with this message at 21:49 on May 10, 2021 |
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Space Gopher posted:Infosec scuttlebutt says that yes, it was a Russian group, but probably a standard ransomware attack rather than an explicitly targeted nation-state assault on infrastructure. "But don't trust anybody" the only verifiable statement here ATM.
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May 10, 2021 21:50
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ILL Machina posted:Well rouse yourself because he didn't really. The very next clip says they'll only negotiate after dems fail to rally against them. And that you can only pay for infrastructure with tolls and gas taxes, definitely not by revisiting the 2017 tax bill. the funny thing is the gas tax polls so terribly republicans plan to run on how democrats raised the gas tax if they can con them into doing it but they're just printing ad after ad about how THEY want to raise the gas tax while democrats don't take the bait!
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From what I've seen, they're losing steam because it's tedious work, especially when everything keeps coming up an exact match. I've been part of a signature challenge, and that's actually sort of fun when you're finding an invalid signature every couple of pages or so. It'd be miserable if everything was perfect.
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evilweasel posted:the funny thing is the gas tax polls so terribly republicans plan to run on how democrats raised the gas tax if they can con them into doing it I know I've said this before but I get the feeling the Repulican pollsters did some test group messaging and they said, $600 - $800 billion is what people want to hear and makes them sound reasonable.
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The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a https://twitter.com/latimes/status/1391815222592110596?s=20 FCKGW fucked around with this message at 22:10 on May 10, 2021 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:From what I've seen, they're losing steam because it's tedious work, especially when everything keeps coming up an exact match. Yeah, rallying with signs and refusing to wear masks while screaming how right you are and how they should let you in to find the fraud and stop the steal is fun and easy, being trapped in a room forced to wear a stuffy mask in spring in Arizona when everyone else is enjoying the weather staring at scantron sheets for 8-12 hours a day, not so much, especially when nothing is proving you right and it becomes increasingly evident all your claims were bullshit and you're an idiot.
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FCKGW posted:The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a $16b budget surplus Good luck to Caitlyn and Big Bear Jon
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FCKGW posted:The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a $16b budget surplus Why don't they refund their loving public universities.
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ILL Machina posted:Well rouse yourself because he didn't really. The very next clip says they'll only negotiate after dems fail to rally against them. And that you can only pay for infrastructure with tolls and gas taxes, definitely not by revisiting the 2017 tax bill. That $800b number is just going to scare away more Republicans from supporting their version of the bill so either way Mitch is kinda boned
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Apologies, the budget surplus this year in CA is actually $75 billion CA has law dating back to the Prop 13 days limiting how much they can actually spend if they have a surplus. Newsom unveiled a $100b budget today and has $16b left over. $8b is going back to taxpayers as stimulus checks, the other $8b is going to education. CA also has a "rainy day fund" by law (I think it's around $50b or so?) so this is after fully funding that fund as well Oracle posted:Why don't they refund their loving public universities. Additional funding for the university system is part of the plan as well. Along with rental assistance a who bunch of other stuff. FCKGW fucked around with this message at 22:12 on May 10, 2021 |
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FCKGW posted:The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a If i get some of that money, I will vote against recalling him. I am sure that's his plan, because funding universities like they should be funded will not save his rear end.
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May 10, 2021 22:11
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FCKGW posted:The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a ok so he's beating the recall then pretty amazing that even the lovely dems have figured out giving people money to vote for you works, if the federal Dems are smart they'll keeping cutting checks ahead of the midterms
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Judakel posted:If i get some of that money, I will vote against recalling him. I am sure that's his plan, because funding universities like they should be funded will not save his rear end. I don't think the plan is fully finalized yet but it's supposed to by anyone in the state making under $75k/yr, $600 per adult and $500 per kid. They sent out checks earlier this year to anyone under $30k as well.
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cancel culture is out of control!!!!! https://twitter.com/AndrewSolender/status/1391864031158415361?s=20
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VitalSigns posted:I know Trump knows he was lying to the extent that he's consciously aware of his lies rather than just mentally rewriting his own reality, and I know all the dumbasses who believe everything they see on Facebook and Newsmax don't know that he's lying, but I figured there was some middle layer of ghouls who were behind this going "ok guys we need to plant the evidence so we can justify more laws against black people voting", on the other hand maybe postmodern politics doesn't require that level of effort. You can just say the swamp defeated the audit or w/e and then pass whatever laws you want. quote:“They talk about conspiracy theories,” she said, referring to reports that the review is examining ballots for evidence of bamboo fibers and watermarks baselessly said to be signs of fraud. “But I tell you what, there’s almost a reverse conspiracy theory to demean this audit.” does seem like the absence of any evidence will actually be evidence that the swamp extends even further than they thought
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lol is McConnell actually suggesting raising gas taxes to balance the budget I thought this guy was supposed to be smart, their main attack against Biden (besides whining about Dr Seuss) is "the economic recovery is actually bad because gas prices are up" now he wants to raise them even higher to keep taxes low on big business? I can't think of anything he could possibly do to piss off his suburban truck-driving farm-cosplayer base more other than banning guns or coming out as transgender. Just  holy poo poo they really do need Trump, these guys are hopeless.
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VitalSigns posted:lol is McConnell actually suggesting raising gas taxes to balance the budget He knows this, and wants it to happen so he can blame the Democrats who are in power.
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FCKGW posted:The FAILED STATE of California is issuing $600 stimulus checks as part of a newsom might be a plastic automaton that almost every voter finds a soulless husk, but i have to give him credit for managing to brand this so thoroughly as a bold move he is taking to help the vulnerable resident's of the state when in reality it's been a mechanism of state law that's almost never relevant. can't fault his political instincts with this one
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