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that is a hall of fame tier headline
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# ? Nov 25, 2021 01:41 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:12 |
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wargames posted:Does elon have to fund the nazi party like ford did, because i think elon would be very much into that.
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# ? Nov 25, 2021 01:50 |
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nahh he donates to all political parties Lmao
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# ? Nov 25, 2021 02:06 |
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loving lol
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# ? Nov 25, 2021 05:53 |
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cnet's car review team didn't Love The Car https://twitter.com/Tim_Stevens/status/1464220589758029841?s=20 biggest issue they had was Autopilot randomly braking all the time for no reason, but they weren't huge fans of the build quality either https://twitter.com/Tim_Stevens/status/1456283041798803458?s=20 https://twitter.com/Tim_Stevens/status/1456291347141435399?s=20 https://twitter.com/Tim_Stevens/status/1456295595459624969?s=20
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:18 |
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lmfao i bet thats a corner protector for the window glass and it should have been removed during assembly
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:19 |
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these things are the biggest loving pieces of poo poo lol
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:19 |
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Jonny 290 posted:lmfao i bet thats a corner protector for the window glass and it should have been removed during assembly rofl that's 100% it
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:25 |
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tesla is kind of amazing in that the more cars they design and build the worse they get
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:27 |
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FMguru posted:tesla is kind of amazing in that the more cars they design and build the worse they get lookin forward to model æ which will only be acknowledged by Elon twice and then never again
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:30 |
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FMguru posted:tesla is kind of amazing in that the more cars they design and build the worse they get that's the model. q.v. google and chat apps. innovation!
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:32 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:lookin forward to model æ which will only be acknowledged by Elon twice and then never again Oh jesus gently caress, he's going to do a Model 🍆 at some point, isn't he.
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 22:33 |
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Carthag Tuek posted:lookin forward to model æ which will only be acknowledged by Elon twice and then never again lmao
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# ? Nov 26, 2021 23:20 |
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Doug Demuro reviewed the Rivian truck and I hope Elong has a lovely day when he gets mad at why his group didn't do some of the fun things for the Cybertrukk
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:04 |
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Jonny 290 posted:these things are the biggest loving pieces of poo poo lol quote:I can't conclusively say that it's because of the missing radar, but I can say that our Model Y is bad at detecting obstructions ahead. Really, really bad. The big issue is false positives, a problem that has become known as "phantom braking" among Tesla owners. Basically, the car often gets confused and thinks there's an obstacle ahead and engages the automatic emergency braking system. You get an instant, unwanted and often strong application of the brakes. This is not a problem unique to Teslas. I've experienced it on other cars, but very, very rarely. On our Model Y this happens constantly, at least once an hour and sometimes much more often than that. In a single hour of driving I caught five phantom braking incidents on camera, two hard enough to sound the automatic emergency braking chime. quote:Except that it isn't wonderful. The phantom braking issue is a complete deal-breaker. Our car, which is running the latest production version of Autopilot, is unsafe whenever cruise control is enabled. A $70,000 car that can't even do cruise control is inexcusable and so, for now at least, I must recommend against the Model Y. There is an increasingly great suite of all-electric options out there, cars like the Chevrolet Bolt EUV, Ford Mustang Mach-E and Volkswagen ID 4. And, if you're willing to wait a little longer, the Hyundai Ioniq 5, Nissan Ariya, Toyota BZ4X and Subaru Solterra will all join the fun. In the interim, we'll keep testing our Model Y and post updates as the situation changes and Tesla moves the target again. For now, spend your money elsewhere. 6.7 / 10
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:29 |
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"The car tried to kill me and is unsafe to drive. -3 out of 10 points. Still luv the car."
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:36 |
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If you're a video game developer, getting below a 7 is atrocious and you're definitely going to have trouble pitching another project to your publisher. Tesla are just taking the next step in their ongoing gamification of the automotive industry.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:41 |
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Zamujasa posted:You get an instant, unwanted and often strong application of the brakes. This is not a problem unique to Teslas. I've experienced it on other cars my car has never done this!
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:51 |
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TheDarkFlame posted:If you're a video game developer, getting below a 7 is atrocious and you're definitely going to have trouble pitching another project to your publisher. Tesla are just taking the next step in their ongoing gamification of the automotive industry. "Why the hell do you have to be so critical?" "I'm a critic" "No, your job is to rate movies on a scale from 'good' to 'excellent'." "What if I don't like them?" "That's what good's for." https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqeFed0RyLo&t=180s
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 05:57 |
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Sagebrush posted:my car has never done this! I’ve had it happen in a few different cars with automatic emergency braking which is on most new cars these days. It’s never entirely inexplicable but I’ve had it trigger where the car in front of me is turning and I continue on at the same rate of speed knowing that the car ahead is moving out of the way but if you cut it too close sometimes the AEB will kick in and it’s really jarring. It’s been pretty rare though, like once or twice a year.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 07:06 |
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maybe y'all should drive safely instead of whatever the gently caress seat of your pants poo poo you're doing, idk
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 07:08 |
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infernal machines posted:maybe y'all should drive safely instead of whatever the gently caress seat of your pants poo poo you're doing, idk Mazda had to do a pretty substantial recall because their aeb system was falsely detecting objects and slamming on the brakes. Even the best of these systems have a false positive rate that is greater than 0. They don’t understand context so they sometimes do the wrong thing.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 07:26 |
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infernal machines posted:maybe y'all should drive safely instead of whatever the gently caress seat of your pants poo poo you're doing, idk lol, agreed. slow down if someone is turning in front of you. ban cars
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 09:01 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:They don’t understand context so they sometimes do the wrong thing. they programmed the car to be a goon???
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 09:49 |
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infernal machines posted:maybe y'all should drive safely instead of whatever the gently caress seat of your pants poo poo you're doing, idk
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 10:00 |
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infernal machines posted:maybe y'all should drive safely instead of whatever the gently caress seat of your pants poo poo you're doing, idk
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 11:25 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:I’ve had it happen in a few different cars with automatic emergency braking which is on most new cars these days. It’s never entirely inexplicable but I’ve had it trigger where the car in front of me is turning and I continue on at the same rate of speed knowing that the car ahead is moving out of the way but if you cut it too close sometimes the AEB will kick in and it’s really jarring. It’s been pretty rare though, like once or twice a year. a rental on vacation did this, but the driver in front slowed down suddenly before lane changing for an exit so it wasn't without reason even then it wasn't a harsh brake, and I'd set the distance to max cruising space between vehicles, so it was behaving in a way I'd intended which is more than that review can say of mr. musk's wild ride
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 14:10 |
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Agile Vector posted:a rental on vacation did this, but the driver in front slowed down suddenly before lane changing for an exit so it wasn't without reason I never had it happen with ACC or at high speed, just while driving on surface streets. My wife’s CX-5 was the worst offender, it would suddenly brake when the lane ahead was clear after the car ahead turned or simply pulled off to the side. The braking was strong enough to send things flying off of the seats. It didn’t happen very often at all and on balance it was probably still better than not having it, but it was a little wonky.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 14:48 |
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drivers frequently report not seeing cyclists or pedestrians after crashes, perhaps these were simply non-fatal occurrences of the same phenomenon?
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 14:56 |
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pointsofdata posted:drivers frequently report not seeing cyclists or pedestrians after crashes, perhaps these were simply non-fatal occurrences of the same phenomenon? No? It’s weird that “driver assistance systems are imperfect and make both type 1 and type 2 errors” is a contentious statement in the Tesla YOSPOS thread. You can see some examples of false positives in a Bosch based Honda system here. https://comma-ai.medium.com/aeb-a-case-study-using-comma-ai-dataset-2fc08a2397f4
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 15:18 |
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FilthyImp posted:Doug Demuro reviewed the Rivian truck and I hope Elong has a lovely day when he gets mad at why his group didn't do some of the fun things for the Cybertrukk they'll just further delay the already delayed cybertruck to keep adding new features to keep up with other manufacturers cybertruck forever - "when it's done"
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 15:45 |
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YOLOsubmarine posted:No? It’s weird that “driver assistance systems are imperfect and make both type 1 and type 2 errors” is a contentious statement in the Tesla YOSPOS thread. You can see some examples of false positives in a Bosch based Honda system here. i wouldn't say it's contentious, more that people have decided you're probably an unsafe driver, for some reason. lol @ comma.ai in general though. some loving xda nerd decides to run an image recognition system on his laptop and use it to drive his car on public roads.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:33 |
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infernal machines posted:lol @ comma.ai in general though. some loving xda nerd decides to run an image recognition system on his laptop and use it to drive his car on public roads. Elon Musk??
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:35 |
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lol, but no, geohotz
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:36 |
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remember when he wanted to start selling self-driving kits and the nhtsa sent him a letter saying "hey, we hear you want to use this on public roads. can we have some basic info on your testing and the safety of this device?", after which he proceeded to have a giant baby meltdown and was going to move to china where the mean old government won't "stifle innovation" by asking questions like "is this thing safe?" instead the chinese government just goes "nope, we're not doing that" and if you talk back you disappear The_Franz fucked around with this message at 16:46 on Nov 27, 2021 |
# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:43 |
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yeah, that was pretty great and did an excellent job of illustrating the problem with that approach to autonomous vehicle development
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 16:53 |
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infernal machines posted:yeah, that was pretty great and did an excellent job of illustrating the problem with that approach to autonomous vehicle development He’s currently selling those kits in the US and nobody cares or has tried to stop him which illustrates the other problem with autonomous vehicles development: you can just do whatever you want and nobody will stop you.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 20:00 |
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very much so, yes. like, in theory the nhtsa should be all the way up his rear end (and tesla's), but somehow they've decided to take the "wait and see" approach to enforcing their mandate
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 21:04 |
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infernal machines posted:very much so, yes. it's not like hotz hasn't already gotten his rear end blasted by the california dmv for this.
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 21:15 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:12 |
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https://twitter.com/existentialcoms/status/1464686423596945408 he's so insecure lmao
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# ? Nov 27, 2021 21:34 |