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Oh yeah, I didn't mean mechanically, just narratively. Like that's where we are with stakes and power - primals once were 8 man trials are now 4 man dungeon bosses. I guess that was the case in Paglth'an and the duty after with the Lunar Primals as well.
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MechanicalTomPetty posted:I mean do you really need much of an explanation, being a race of hilarious adorable gently caress-ups is basically the Loporrit's whole schtick. Ah, but whether you missed a hilarious adorable reason for the gently caress up is a valid question.
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I was so positive that this image was photoshopped in front of the "Final Days" firewall that it actually took me a long moment to not see that.
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Gearhead posted:As I remarked once before, 'A Maine Coon is a lot less cuddly when it's the size of a horse relative to yourself.' Growing up my friends had a large dog who would just lean on people. Even ones she was bigger than. She was lovable but I was terrified of getting squashed by her.
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ImpAtom posted:I was so positive that this image was photoshopped in front of the "Final Days" firewall that it actually took me a long moment to not see that. 
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The utter chaos as the Loporrits scrambled to demolish and rebuild everything thanks to the scions showing up; plus the generalized chaos as the Loporrits figure out what the heck they are going to do with everything they've built now that the moonship isn't needed is a pretty good explanation of why they haven't updated the friend/foe ids for their robots. I kinda hope the Loporrits take advantage of their moonbase and set up some sorta Doctors WIthout Borders or disaster relief organization. They really want to do good in the world, and quickly made homes, food, and clothes would be great for civilians in the aftermath of natural disasters.
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The teeny tiny toy boat is stuck being stationary in two places at once though.
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hobbesmaster posted:The teeny tiny toy boat is stuck being stationary in two places at once though. I'm sure that we can probably build more now, that don't have to be nearly so large or so fast. Or will be able to do so soon enough.
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Oxyclean posted:Oh yeah, I didn't mean mechanically, just narratively. Like that's where we are with stakes and power - primals once were 8 man trials are now 4 man dungeon bosses. The main reason for this, I suspect, is because they couldn't very well say what those primals were in promotional material, live letters and the like without spoiling far more of the story and its structure than they wanted to - and if they hadn't implied that Anima and the Magus Sisters were primals, we would have very quickly gone from speculation of 'why didn't they tell us about the primal fights, they usually do' to 'its gotta be something worth keeping secret', and then it would have been spoiled anyway. Personally I think they threaded a very careful needle with all that.
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The moment where I went from “why did they keep the bosses so secret?” to “ah I see why they kept the bosses hidden” was very good
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thetoughestbean posted:The moment where I went from “why did they keep the bosses so secret?” to “ah I see why they kept the bosses hidden” was very good For me it was when I realized the promotional Amano poster was their actual in-game models.
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Bruceski posted:For me it was when I realized the promotional Amano poster was their actual in-game models. Someone else said it first but I love that the way we know someone is an entity of great import because they look like an Amano design
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The new himaton of striking actually looks really good and is great for simple, elegant glamours. The look is growing on me?
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Jetrauben posted:The new himaton of striking actually looks really good and is great for simple, elegant glamours. The look is growing on me? Is that the 580 gear? It does look good
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So, is there a way to rewatch the WoL/Zenos fist fight? I tried looking in the Unending Journey book, but it seems like it goes from "Cutscene 5: You two facing off at each other/drawing your weapons" and then 6 jumps straight to Zenos on the ground."
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the_steve posted:So, is there a way to rewatch the WoL/Zenos fist fight? I tried looking in the Unending Journey book, but it seems like it goes from "Cutscene 5: You two facing off at each other/drawing your weapons" and then 6 jumps straight to Zenos on the ground." No, it's part of the duty unfortunately.
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the_steve posted:So, is there a way to rewatch the WoL/Zenos fist fight? I tried looking in the Unending Journey book, but it seems like it goes from "Cutscene 5: You two facing off at each other/drawing your weapons" and then 6 jumps straight to Zenos on the ground." Wait for NG+ to be available.
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Zeruel posted:amano design like the bird lizard mount from shb? As In drawn by yoshitaka amano, one of the original concept designers for final fantasy. Omega M/F, the Warrior of Light, and Hydaelyn/Zodiark are all specifically designed to resemble his style.
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Gruckles posted:Sundered ancients with the potential to awaken the echo instead manifesting their primal fears in response to the Final Days happening again I suppose. Eh, handwaving all those people as potential echo havers (even just a core group of people whose transformed forms would end up defining or inspiring later transformations) feels a bit much just given how random and sporadic echo bearers tend to be when they aren't consciously gathering.
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The signature grey skin of amano's art
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thetoughestbean posted:The moment where I went from “why did they keep the bosses so secret?” to “ah I see why they kept the bosses hidden” was very good having some iconic things to tell us about to throw us entirely off the trail by assuming they'd be the trial bosses and then throw them in as dungeons is very helpful probably
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Gearhead posted:I'm sure that we can probably build more now, that don't have to be nearly so large or so fast. Or will be able to do so soon enough. It’s going to be somewhat strange to have access to multiple spaceships but nowhere to actually go with them, given the universe is mostly full of dead civilizations.
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mightygerm posted:It’s going to be somewhat strange to have access to multiple spaceships but nowhere to actually go with them, given the universe is mostly full of dead civilizations. Someone hasn't levelled fishing. Star Ocean Expeditions.
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mightygerm posted:It’s going to be somewhat strange to have access to multiple spaceships but nowhere to actually go with them, given the universe is mostly full of dead civilizations. the end of the crafting questlines explicitly ends with Sharlayan wanting to use the Ragnarok to travel the stars to find people still alive/being reborn and spread a message of hope to repair the damage done. I don't think we the players will be star hopping any time soon but they do acknowledge that we have at least one fast travel space ship (I'd argue the moon is probably best left where it is) and should probably do something with that.
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Argas posted:Someone hasn't levelled fishing. TEAR INTO PIECES
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There's at least one surviving civilization out there in the form of the Omicrons and I imagine Meteion probably overlooked a number of civilizations, or at least you can probably guess she did. Either they were smol or she didn't get out there. If anything it's probably put a selection effect on them: the further they were from recognizably like Etherys the more likely Meteion would have just skimmed past them while doombirding. "This planet just has weird rocks, gently caress 'em" "giant caterpillars? pfft whatever" "Here we go, sad tall guys"
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Since Meteion has some form of aetheric sense, she would be able to recognize basically anything with a soul structure similar to someone from Etherys.
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There also might have been stars thar were in like very early stages of life "What does it mean to live?" "Thog have big rock"
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Argas posted:Someone hasn't levelled fishing. And Wawalago was never seen again
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Waffleman_ posted:There also might have been stars thar were in like very early stages of life 'What happened to the world filled with beavers?' 'We don't talk about that one.'
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The way I generally took the whole Meteion project is that they were all sent off to specific stars, and then freaked the gently caress out because most of them were dead. So they likely didn't specifically scout out all the planets and landed on the ones we saw, and very probably, yeah, they did miss some that were doing just fine by doing so.
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It also doesn't seem clear just how many Meteia were made by Hermes and launched into space. A few dozen? Hundreds? Or were they self-replicating somehow? There's no way they visited every star in the universe.
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FuturePastNow posted:It also doesn't seem clear just how many Meteia were made by Hermes and launched into space. A few dozen? Hundreds? Or were they self-replicating somehow? There's no way they visited every star in the universe. They specified 108 at least once.
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thetoughestbean posted:Is that the 580 gear? It does look good Yeah. I was initially skeptical, and no dyes is an issue, but they've got promise.
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