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I FOUND IT! I knew it had to exist! Kingrinder, 1zpresso knockoffs/company split/whatever.  People seem to say the parts quality is on par, seems like a good middle ground as far as price, what do ya'll think? I just can't get myself to spend 160/200 on the JX-Pro/J-max, it's a lot.
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Feb 14, 2022 18:01
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seems like the one closest to being comparable to a jx-pro (though with larger steps still) is all of $20 cheaper?
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Feb 14, 2022 19:15
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What about the K3 or maybe even the K2 though? It looks like you could totally get away with dialing in espresso with those, with smaller steps than what is otherwise available at that price range from what I've found so far.
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Feb 14, 2022 19:43
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From that chart, the K4 and K6 are identical except the K4 has titanium-coated burrs and is $10 cheaper. Is stainless steel superior to titanium or something?
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Feb 14, 2022 20:06
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lol it seems like they're trying to have a less confusing naming system than the 1zpressos they're copying but.. it's somehow just as opaque anyways if it is just some employees that split off or whatever and the build quality is identical to 1zpresso, it's a good find for sure. i assume you're taking a slight chance something isn't as good, but probably not much of one eke out fucked around with this message at 21:08 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2022 20:16
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404notfound posted:From that chart, the K4 and K6 are identical except the K4 has titanium-coated burrs and is $10 cheaper. Is stainless steel superior to titanium or something? It's a different burr entirely, they call the one on the k5/k6 Heptagonal. That being said though, is titanium coating really a thing that works? Always seems like coatings start coming off sooner or later. (with kitchen stuff in general, no idea about grinders) Unless there's a strong yes to the question above, I'm probably gonna go ahead and try the K2 and report back.
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Feb 14, 2022 21:48
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Brut posted:It's a different burr entirely, they call the one on the k5/k6 Heptagonal. if that's the same heptagonal burr geometry as 1zpresso, people really like it and it's probably a little better (at least in some far end of the diminishing returns curve sense of better)
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Feb 14, 2022 21:59
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eke out posted:lol it seems like they're trying to have a less confusing naming system than the 1zpressos they're copying but.. it's somehow just as opaque I see they've copied the unnecessarily large amount of SKUs too. Like the K5/6 are close enough that they might as well be one listing. Same for the 3-4. Even the 0-1 may as well only be one even if they actually have different burrs, because they're all of $10 apart.
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Feb 14, 2022 22:19
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gwrtheyrn posted:I see they've copied the unnecessarily large amount of SKUs too. Like the K5/6 are close enough that they might as well be one listing. Same for the 3-4. Even the 0-1 may as well only be one even if they actually have different burrs, because they're all of $10 apart. I've seen lots of people really care about whether it's an internal or external adjustment mechanism  It would be nice if they just let you literally custom order one and it would adjust the price based on what you put in, and every possible combination just ends up being one of the SKUs they have, seems unlikely though. Edit: Actually now that I'm looking at it I can't even find listings for the K2/K4/K6, so uhhh, K3 it is? Might email them to ask if the others will become available or what's up. Brut fucked around with this message at 23:19 on Feb 14, 2022 |
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Feb 14, 2022 23:07
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Honestly if you think the k3/5 meet your needs go for it, but at the same time, if you think the 1z is better, for example because of its significantly smaller adjustments, then you should probably just get that unless you're not sure about even having a hand grinder or just espresso in general. While $40 is a significant % price difference, that's all of like 3-4 bags of coffee. I certainly prefer the looks of the 1zpresso more, particularly the engraved adjustment numbers. I spent on the k-plus like a dumb, but price wasn't the only reason I wanted a hand grinder. They're also just much easier to put wherever I want on the counter. And if you want to save money (or maybe not!!!!) on coffee.... Google Butt posted:roasting coffee owns Sweet Marias has a stovetop popper starter kit that is basically 8lbs of beans and $15 for everything else in the kit. Highly recommend. Have good ventilation for when you dump
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Feb 15, 2022 05:47
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Kingrinder posted:I am afraid to inform you that there is no current plan for the K2, K4, K6 grinders to be available at the moment. Hmmm, no $99 grinder for me I guess huh. But at least it makes the model selection less confusing, lmao. gwrtheyrn posted:Honestly if you think the k3/5 meet your needs go for it, but at the same time, if you think the 1z is better, for example because of its significantly smaller adjustments, then you should probably just get that unless you're not sure about even having a hand grinder or just espresso in general. While $40 is a significant % price difference, that's all of like 3-4 bags of coffee. I certainly prefer the looks of the 1zpresso more, particularly the engraved adjustment numbers. I spent on the k-plus like a dumb, but price wasn't the only reason I wanted a hand grinder. They're also just much easier to put wherever I want on the counter. The problem is that when I think of buying the JX-Pro as "$40 more", it then also makes sense to save up $40 more to get the J-max. Brut fucked around with this message at 10:36 on Feb 15, 2022 |
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Feb 15, 2022 09:44
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Brut posted:The problem is that when I think of buying the JX-Pro as "$40 more", it then also makes sense to save up $40 more to get the J-max. I mean this is what I'd personally do if I was looking at something specifically for espresso. Though if you actually want a case, it's more like $25 since you can't not get one with the j-max but you have to pay for it with the jx. The JX does have a threaded catch cup which some people prefer over the magnetic. If I was getting a kingrinder and had a tight budget, I'd just get the K1 (or import a k2 from canada), but that's partially because I value being able to hold 30g, and the K1 is at least significantly cheaper if I can't have that. The adjustment steps are also exactly the same, so it's not like spending on their more expensive one lets you dial in more. Smaller burrs means you'll take longer grinding.
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Feb 15, 2022 10:44
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ok I think I’m getting better at the moka pot, the trick is not just to loosely pour the beans into the chamber but pour less beans. I wasnt packing them before but it would still become a hard to dislodge puck after and now it easily falls out with nary a tap and the coffee tastes great
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Feb 16, 2022 16:26
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Well the upgrade phase went pretty well... Lelit Biana and the Atom 75. Match made in heaven so far! qutius fucked around with this message at 21:22 on Feb 16, 2022 |
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Feb 16, 2022 21:16
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qutius posted:Well the upgrade phase went pretty well... Nice one. I upgraded my Rocket Appartamento to a Bianca last year. It's been great so far. Much better for extracting those fussy light roasts.
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Feb 16, 2022 22:11
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qutius posted:Well the upgrade phase went pretty well... I found replacing the portafilter that came with my Bianca with a vst let me extract light roasts more consistently, also bumped the temp a bit I feel the steam wand works okay, sputters a little bit for me I’m unsure why Great machine you’re gonna love it imo
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Feb 16, 2022 23:00
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Yeah, definitely invest in a nice VST basket if you haven’t already. It makes a pretty big difference.
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Feb 16, 2022 23:16
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Coffee thread is long, confusing, and full of over-caffeinated weirdos. Our Oxo on-brain 9 cup dripper has lasted about 5 years and died and we need a new drip pot. Having a timer is a plus but not required. Way back when I was last researching drippers I looked at the Bonavita and the Technivorm. It looks like the Bonavita is no longer available. I like that the Technivorm is fully repairable but $330 is a lot.
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Feb 18, 2022 12:58
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NomNomNom posted:Coffee thread is long, confusing, and full of over-caffeinated weirdos. Our Oxo on-brain 9 cup dripper has lasted about 5 years and died and we need a new drip pot. Having a timer is a plus but not required. The technivorm is good. I have one. There’s no timer. All parts are replaceable so it should outlast your Oxo. Hope this helps. Not sure what else you want.
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Feb 18, 2022 13:00
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nwin posted:The technivorm is good. I have one. There’s no timer. All parts are replaceable so it should outlast your Oxo. No that's pretty much it, looking for affirmation that it's worth the price.
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Feb 18, 2022 13:18
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NomNomNom posted:No that's pretty much it, looking for affirmation that it's worth the price. I’ve had one for five years, the warranty support is awesome*, and it consistently makes extremely good coffee. A friend who has a better palette than I do asked how I did the pour over. If you’re lazy like me and just want good coffee it’s a no-brainer. The wife and I went through four brewers that were all poo poo before we said “gently caress it” and spent the cash. * I had the spring break in the basket a few years after buying it and I got a FedEx tracking email the same day as the email request for support.
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Feb 18, 2022 13:29
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NomNomNom posted:Coffee thread is long, confusing, and full of over-caffeinated weirdos. Our Oxo on-brain 9 cup dripper has lasted about 5 years and died and we need a new drip pot. Having a timer is a plus but not required. AFAIK, at that price point you can either go Technivorm or Breville/Sage. Technivorm- simple, teutonic, iconic, eternal Breville- fancy, all of the tech, Breville user interface design, build quality, and customer support (very very good, best-in-class) Breville = S-Class of drip coffee machines Technivorm= S-Class of drip coffee machines, but it’s the S-Class from the 70s
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Feb 18, 2022 14:36
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Yeah I appreciate the simplicity of the Technivorm, tired of replacing small appliances with touchscreens and gizmos that break in a few years.
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Feb 18, 2022 15:09
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NomNomNom posted:Yeah I appreciate the simplicity of the Technivorm, tired of replacing small appliances with touchscreens and gizmos that break in a few years. FWIW, there’s no touchscreen BS or super complicated menu diving with the Breville. If you’ve ever used one of their recent toaster ovens or air friers, it’s basically that UI. Just like two buttons and a knob. Arguably some of the best implementation of “smart” features/etc in a household appliance I’ve tried. I would think more about what you want to do with the machine than worry about durability or support. The Breville will let you do stuff like cold brew, over ice, “auto Gold Cup” (ie the closest to what a Technivorm will do), etc, and let you micromanage things like brew time/temp/etc. to your heart’s content. If you have a pourover device like a V60 or Clever that you want to hook up to your Breville for some bizarre reason, you can do that. Last I checked, it’s also the drip machine that James Hoffman uses at home, if that matters at all to you.
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Feb 18, 2022 15:31
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Ok Comboomer posted:FWIW, there’s no touchscreen BS or super complicated menu diving with the Breville. If you’ve ever used one of their recent toaster ovens or air friers, it’s basically that UI. Just like two buttons and a knob. I’m anti-breville. I’ve had two of their smart ovens break right after warranty and their customer service told me to get hosed. And though it doesn’t have a touchscreen or anything, there’s probably a more sophisticated computer chip it uses than the technivorm to deliver all those brew methods.
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Feb 18, 2022 15:59
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my technivorm has been great definitely would recommend put in coffee, put in water, hit the switch. it's not as good as a quality pourover though
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Feb 18, 2022 17:33
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sugar free jazz posted:my technivorm has been great definitely would recommend Is there any machine that will make a cup as good as a v60?
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Feb 18, 2022 18:51
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Google Butt posted:Is there any machine that will make a cup as good as a v60? 
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Feb 18, 2022 19:09
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Google Butt posted:Is there any machine that will make a cup as good as a v60? 
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Feb 18, 2022 19:43
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This image will never not be funny.
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Feb 18, 2022 21:02
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Bought some "naturally low caffeine" beans from my neighbor roaster. Not sure how low they are but it gives me excuses to make silly things in the afternoon with no guilt. 
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Feb 19, 2022 00:12
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Did you invent a Samoa Latte?
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Feb 19, 2022 00:41
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I grew up in Houston, so I invented a Caramel Delatte  used chai caramel from this recipe and I gotta say it's working for me
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Feb 19, 2022 00:54
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NomNomNom posted:Way back when I was last researching drippers I looked at the Bonavita and the Technivorm. It looks like the Bonavita is no longer available. I like that the Technivorm is fully repairable but $330 is a lot. I assume Technivorm is even higher quality and even more reliable?
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Feb 20, 2022 14:13
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after getting a gooseneck kettle I started brewing a few single cup brews with the v60 in addition to the two cups in the weekends, just to get the hang of using a pouring kettle, and I believe I can safely say that, purely from the flavour in the cup, an aeropress is superior for single cup brews. it’s just way more consistent both in taste and as a process.
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Feb 21, 2022 12:17
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ulvir posted:after getting a gooseneck kettle I started brewing a few single cup brews with the v60 in addition to the two cups in the weekends, just to get the hang of using a pouring kettle, and I believe I can safely say that, purely from the flavour in the cup, an aeropress is superior for single cup brews. it’s just way more consistent both in taste and as a process. I've been making V60 pour-overs pretty much every day for the last two years. Until Hoffman's ultimate technique, I never really managed to get anything all that good out of my Aeropress. The pour-overs always tasted much better to me. The V60 can be pretty unforgiving though, and small inconsistencies or errors in technique will vary the outcome by quite a bit. I've had the best results when using Scott Rao's updated pour-over technique and would recommend that you give it a try. It's a technique designed for single cups but can be easily upscaled for larger amounts. It's very simple but highly effective. Pay particular attention to the section where he talks about pour height., as that's especially important for getting a good result. (The video uses a Kalita Wave instead of a V60, but the technique works on the V60 no problem). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjsGf3R9mc0
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Feb 21, 2022 14:20
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Gunder posted:I've been making V60 pour-overs pretty much every day for the last two years. Until Hoffman's ultimate technique, I never really managed to get anything all that good out of my Aeropress. The pour-overs always tasted much better to me. The V60 can be pretty unforgiving though, and small inconsistencies or errors in technique will vary the outcome by quite a bit. Did not realize the bubbles meant not all the coffee is wet. I'll try this once I get my new V60 filters. I've been using something like Hoffman's technique, although I can't bring myself to use a timer, and I get great brews maybe 80% of the time. Never given much thought to pour height either. But did figure out that using flat-bottomed size 2 filters with the V60 instead of the pointy ones has been producing poo poo coffee every time.
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Sweeper posted:I found replacing the portafilter that came with my Bianca with a vst let me extract light roasts more consistently, also bumped the temp a bit I haven't had any issues with the steam wand so far. A TINY amount of water then she just loving blasts steam. Talk about a huge upgrade! Do you use the two hole or four hole tip?
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