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Halloween Jack posted:Homelander doesn't have a coherent worldview. He's a psychotic narcissist who can't spend 15 minutes alone without having a breakdown and talking to his reflection. In addition to Homelander's not quite coherent ideology outside of his need for worship, Stormfront's got an actual political project, which is why I said she was the more dangerous of the two. Like somewhere down that line she's got extermination in mind. Homelander you might be able to just distract with cable news and poo poo for the rest of his life.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 06:39 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:03 |
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I would watch BLACK NOIR: INSURRECTION immediately
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 09:28 |
PostNouveau posted:In addition to Homelander's not quite coherent ideology outside of his need for worship, Stormfront's got an actual political project, which is why I said she was the more dangerous of the two. Like somewhere down that line she's got extermination in mind. Homelander you might be able to just distract with cable news and poo poo for the rest of his life. I'm not quite convinced this is the case. Homelander was seemingly the mastermind behind the plot to smuggle out compound V to make super-terrorist, for the sole reason of justifying supes in the military. It was an idea he got from Vought's corporate direction, but he went further without their knowledge to make it happen. After that got bungled up he glomped onto Stormfront's vision, and since then there hasn't really been time for anything else. It definitely gives the impression of a man who's not satisfied with just doing nothing, even if he's more likely to appropriate someone else's idea than come up with one on his own.
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# ? Aug 7, 2022 11:41 |
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Is there a Vought Vault, and if so, are they still showing the Soldier Boy classic films or were they removed due to his Russian terrorist ties?
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# ? Aug 8, 2022 12:13 |
Astroman posted:Is there a Vought Vault, and if so, are they still showing the Soldier Boy classic films or were they removed due to his Russian terrorist ties?
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 01:02 |
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https://twitter.com/VoughtIntl/status/1557758815495458817
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 18:19 |
Oh the alliteration, I love whoever runs that social media account
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 18:27 |
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"Vought's bravest lesbian"
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 18:33 |
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PostNouveau posted:"Vought's bravest lesbian"
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# ? Aug 11, 2022 22:24 |
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Astroman posted:Is there a Vought Vault, and if so, are they still showing the Soldier Boy classic films or were they removed due to his Russian terrorist ties? Kripke--reading my posts? or my mind?
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 02:01 |
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I just realized he's acting like his power set is pretty low level like cap instead of Superman. I can't believe I missed that during the actual show.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 03:57 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:I just realized he's acting like his power set is pretty low level like cap instead of Superman. I can't believe I missed that during the actual show. But that seems to be public knowledge?
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 04:25 |
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i mean other than the laser thing
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 06:34 |
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Dude trades hits with Homelander. He doesn't give a gently caress about some Russian dude punching him in the face or gut, and if those handcuffs held him, they could hold Homelander. He's acting like they hurt, and he's acting like he needs the twins help to get free. My guess is it's easier to sell morale for a "this man is peak human!" style guy like Cap in a war over a demigod who lasers people from the sky. People can identify with cap, not so much Superman.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 09:44 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:My guess is it's easier to sell morale for a "this man is peak human!" style guy like Cap in a war over a demigod who lasers people from the sky. People can identify with cap, not so much Superman. Cap is what Americans ought to be, Superman is what fascists want to be. Americans think they're Cap but they want to be Superman.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 10:35 |
Jedit posted:Cap is what Americans ought to be, Superman is what fascists want to be. Americans think they're Cap but they want to be Superman. Lol what?
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 10:55 |
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Barry Foster posted:Lol what? The intent of Steve Rogers as a character is that he's the best a man can be, and not just physically. He leads without domineering, he recognises that loyalty is a two way street, and he values honesty because he is himself honest. Sometimes he has to do poo poo things, but he has a conscience and he's been known to refuse bad orders. And as a rule he waits until someone fucks around before he makes them find out. Superman, on the other hand, is much more than a man. He may be good because he was raised to be good, but nobody can force him to do what is right. If he decided to rule the world, who could stop him? And that's what fascists aspire to: not being told what to do by anyone who isn't a superior individual, combined with a belief that no one is superior to them and hence whatever they choose to do is right. That's what I mean by "they ought to be Cap and think they actually are Cap, but they want to be Superman". It's why the American right took so long to realise that Homelander isn't meant to be a hero, and were angry when they finally did realise.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 12:00 |
read Altemyer https://theauthoritarians.org/options-for-getting-the-book/
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 15:28 |
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Altemeyer's book is insightful, but it irks me that he uses this extremely loose definition of left vs. right that corresponds to American partisan politics, despite being Canadian.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 15:54 |
He knows his audience and wants to be easily understood. Like I agree but good luck explaining to a bunch of educated liberals that they’re actually part of the right when you remove the artificial ideological barriers they’ve lived their entire lives with. Baby steps.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:49 |
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Soldier Boy is just a better version of what they were trying to do with Ultimate Captain America
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 18:52 |
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I firmly do not believe anyone thought Homelander was a good guy after the pilot episode. The "meltdowns" on Reddit/social media aren't plausible and probably fake or mental illness.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 19:12 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I firmly do not believe anyone thought Homelander was a good guy after the pilot episode. The "meltdowns" on Reddit/social media aren't plausible and probably fake or mental illness. The far right, known for their mental health and solid reliance on true facts.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 19:26 |
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People have been treating villainous characters having any level of pathos as a sign that they are actually just complex characters that deserve sympathy since time immemorial.
CPFortest fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Aug 12, 2022 |
# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:05 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I firmly do not believe anyone thought Homelander was a good guy after the pilot episode. The "meltdowns" on Reddit/social media aren't plausible and probably fake or mental illness. There was a point I might've agreed with this, but I really can't give right-wingers that much credit anymore. I've read too many absurd and idiotic takes on TV or movies to believe they secretly do understand and are merely pretending not to. The Boys is just one flagrant example, but I've seen plenty of posts on Reddit or elsewhere in which people say, like, "Disney's going to make X-Men woke now," or "Matrix 4 turned the franchise into SJW garbage!" I don't think they're kidding, I think they're actually that stupid and that illiterate when it comes to media. Are incapable of interpreting a story's thesis in a meaningful way and just react blindly to signifiers without contemplating how they're used in context.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 20:44 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I firmly do not believe anyone thought Homelander was a good guy after the pilot episode. The "meltdowns" on Reddit/social media aren't plausible and probably fake or mental illness. I used to think this way about Vic Mackey from the Shield until I told my cop friend about that show and Vic became his favorite tv character of all time. It made me seriously reconsider what media I endorse to who.
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 22:11 |
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Mu Zeta posted:I firmly do not believe anyone thought Homelander was a good guy after the pilot episode. The "meltdowns" on Reddit/social media aren't plausible and probably fake or mental illness. How can you have been on this website for 20 years and still think this?
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 22:34 |
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Elephant Ambush posted:How can you have been on this website for 20 years and still think this? I only read like 4 threads on the entire forum
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# ? Aug 12, 2022 22:38 |
Imagine reading this thread and the posters in it who clearly either aren’t paying attention while watching the show or are barely literate and being surprised that there’s also chuds out there to whom the same applies
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# ? Aug 13, 2022 01:16 |
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I enjoyed season 3 scene to scene but looking back the overall story feels like a bit of a mess. A couple of points I'm unclear on: - What's stopping Homelander just rocking up and vaporizing Hughie (and indeed anyone else) like he previously threatened to? I guess the idea is that Hughie's underground now, but if that was enough to solve the issue I don't see why Starlight had to go along with him before. - Did we establish at some point that Homelander is immune to novichok? They seemed to treat it as something that could only work against Soldier Boy, but wasn't the entire assumption of the Russian mission that SB's weakness could also be Homelander's weakness? Very weird that Maeve would throw it away (randomly into a populated area) rather than attempt to use it if not.
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# ? Aug 14, 2022 23:54 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I enjoyed season 3 scene to scene but looking back the overall story feels like a bit of a mess. A couple of points I'm unclear on: -Nothing. -Not mentioned if he's immune.
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# ? Aug 14, 2022 23:59 |
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i think homelander has said he has gone to space but i dont think weve seen it. he may not need to breath
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 00:02 |
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quote:Just what you came to Twitter dot com for today... BTS of a giant fake penis and the world's largest bag of blow.
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 02:23 |
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lol edit: ah hell, can't post it without the original tweet embedding. It's a video of the filming of the scene where the actor's in the bag of coke. https://twitter.com/livelyackles/status/1558483743085678592?t=dr8650DprUObL7w4ZYpS_w&s=19
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 07:34 |
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I enjoyed Season 3, but I was baffled by some of the same things other people are talking about. My impression was that Homelander is nearly invincible like he was in the comic, so I was surprised when a couple guys on Temp V were able to go toe-to-toe with him for even a minute. And the whole thing with MM trying to fight Soldier Boy even when he had nothing for him was odd.
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 14:37 |
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Xealot posted:
wHeN dId StAr TrEk gO wOkE?!? - William Shatner
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 19:59 |
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The Boys criticizes wokeness as corporate co-opting and commodification of civil rights which I think broke a lot of chud brains because they can't view anything outside of the typical American binary view of politics. They see the Brave Maeve's Vegan Tacos and go "lol this show must be on my side" and are completely shocked when it is actually a far left perspective that is hostile to their view as well.
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 20:13 |
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Irony Be My Shield posted:I enjoyed season 3 scene to scene but looking back the overall story feels like a bit of a mess. A couple of points I'm unclear on: Homelander doesn't kill certain people because if they're dead then he can't torture and abuse and control them
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# ? Aug 15, 2022 20:14 |
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Or, in the case of Stan Edgar, he can only prove them right in so doing, that he's an impulsive baby-man who succumbed to a tantrum. That's part of why their scenes together are so electric (and not for nothing arguably the two most incredible performers on the show trading lines), knowing Homelander could literally kill him with a look, but so desires to be a real big boy grown up leader and win the game on its own terms that he orchestrates a successful if ill-advised corporate coup through skullduggery. But as the scenes play out you can't be 100% sure he won't just fly off the handle and pop Stan's skull when his ego gets wounded when Starr does that glorious Face Acting.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 03:28 |
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 15:03 |
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I think the Stan Edgar thing looks a lot like some sort of intentional conditioning that the Vought corporation did to keep certain supes loyal. It sets up a perfect new line for Homelander to cross, true patricide. Or maybe Stan Edgar is also a supe.
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# ? Aug 16, 2022 03:39 |