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I typed this last night and forgot about it but binus' latest post reminded me of it (pot meet kettle?)b-minus1 posted:Rip toal This is pretty savage after benefiting from Toal's execution Did you even give a reason for your Toal vote?
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No I just picked someone from the player list and voted them
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b-minus1 posted:##vote toal Ehh scum binus usually has filler before laying down a bad vote so maybe it's town binus after all.
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b-minus1 posted:No I just picked someone from the player list and voted them Yeah that's kinda the conclusion I came to after looking
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Thank you, audience!PsychoSoldier posted:Also, Yata, did you ever explain why your eye was on these two? For bif I kind of explained it in page 6. I am still not fully sure what to think about them or if I believe them with their survivor stick. For Tired I thought it was very scum to push for an early turbo on yourself when there were hardly any votes in the first place. I know it was framed as a joke but still seemed suspect to me.
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Jan 18, 2023 18:18
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Scum team: Green Wing, PsychoSoldier, one of illusionis/saladscooper You should explain these
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Jan 18, 2023 18:19
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Yata posted:Thank you, audience! Are you still suspicious of Tired now? Who else are you suspicious of?
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What is that? No flavor, no themes, no images, just death? b-minus1, town, has died. It is now Day 2. Remember that Green Wing is not able to vote today. Audience Award: The audience just loves Tired Moritz, who will take an extra vote to hammer today. The audience also felt no lurker punishment was necessary. Audience Participation for Day 2: One player picked by the audience will be able to publicly pick another player during Night 2, and the picked player will also get an item (and will be able to use the item night 2). You will not be able to pick yourself, but are able to pick no one. If the publicly picked player is the first vote or hammer they will then get two items to use night 2. Good luck!
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Votecount for Day 2 Not Voting (13): AnonymousNarcotics, Bifauxnen, Cloacamazing!, death cob for cutie, Green Wing, Illusionis, Maerlyn, merk, PsychoSoldier, Rhymes With Clue, saladscooper, Tired Moritz, YataWith 13 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. There is currently no deadline set. Please remember to send me a number between 1-100 for your potential Item pick, and whether you will ##include Overpowered Items. Also remember TM is loved today and takes an extra vote to hammer, and Green Wing lost her vote.
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PsychoSoldier posted:Are you still suspicious of Tired now? Who else are you suspicious of? Not right now, though these two votes he was given and how he uses them might change my mind. Ilusionis and Maerlyn are now on my radar. Need to reread their posts with the current deathcount in mind, but they seemed to be agressively shifting our votes direction early on. Especially Maerlyn.
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Actually, let me get things started. ##vote Maerlyn
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Ok, so I've reread the entire thread, and I think my reads list is something like this TOWN(Or Survivor that I don't think is a threat) Bif binus salad GW Illu merk Tired Bif is either telling the truth or unlikely to be using it as a scum bluff imo. I also just think a lot of their solving has been genuine, especially the way their logic worked out on sussing merk after considering me as town. binus had sort of a softer start, but ultimately feels exactly like the binus I've played with, and I've only seen him as town so I think it's a good look. Also not sure he opts to townread me when he did if scum I have some paranoia that salad is trying to pocket me, but they had the towniest opening in my opinion and seems to have genuinely been trying to move the game forward with their posts. Feel good that the paranoia is unfounded. GW has too much conviction and has had some posts/takes that I don't think comes from scum just trying to look good. At worst, the lack of re-eval on me isn't great, but I think is more indicative of how fervently they believe I'm scum. Illu had the two starting posts I thought were weak as gently caress, but their return posts have been completely on point and I think they're genuinely trying to solve. I explained merk before My read on Tired fell off about halfway through, but won me back over with posts closer to deadline. Particularly the suggestion of giving the item to the survivor and then not really knowing where to vote but following the vote leaders they trust. Feels less like scum trying to fit in while staying in the background and more like an undecided town that wants to help make their vote be productive. LIGHT TOWN Death Cob Overall, I really liked Death Cob's reactions to my posts and the way they developed their reads/votes. I think it could be an aggressive and concise posting style that could maybe be an indignant scum, but overall I feel towny vibes here. NOT SURE Cloacamazing Maer I don't think both of them are scum together. I kind of think maybe there's a guaranteed scum between the both. My biggest problem with Maer is her read on me has been the one that most feels like it's trying to pocket me or be on the right side of history when I flip. That said, I think maybe she's laying it on a bit too thick by the end of the phase. I also liked this post: - Maerlyn posted:I just saw this, lol Not to mention if Merk is town, her saying she didn't like wanna vote either wagon and trying to drum something else up rather than just following in line may be a good look? I felt Cloaca had one of the purest openings, but I feel like all of her reads have been nothing but shade. I kinda liked the way she clapped back at Maer, but I also didn't like that in her initial response to me about her thoughts about the people voting me, it came off a bit like she was assuming I was town. SCUM Anarc Yata RWC Anarc has barely had any reads and feels like they're just justifying a push on me without having much oomph or trying to actually evaluate me or anyone else. The retroactive explanation for their vote on me is fine but again, ultimately just feels like excuses to not update their read. I don't have much in the way of specific reasons I don't like Yata, but I get iffy vibes their. Apparently this is their first game so I'm trying to temper that read, and I liked that they said not to go easy on them. But something isn't feeling right, and if there's not scum elsewhere in my town/not sure reads, then I think it boxes in on Yata. RWC feels the most like just fluff posting and trying to seem around when they aren't. They've hardly contributed any real reads. Very meh on RWC's scum reads and subsequent vote/read on merk, but I guess a good look if merk is scum Rhymes With Clue posted:Right now the votecount makes it look to me like it's scum/scum wagons at the top. And both top vote leaders have been around and have declined to self-pres on the other one. Hmmm. This is a weird take for me because I think it's odd to assume scum/scum wagons at this point and seems more like justifying votes on either wagon. Again, if Merk is scum, this is probably fine, but overall, doesn't make me feel great. And I don't like the "My Tired vote was totally real for no reason!"
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At least I was right on binus lol Also ##vote Rhymes With Clue
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Wanna vote in the last four quick votes on Toal GW, Anarc, RWC, andddd Bif? I’m on mobile so I’m posting from memoru
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saladscooper posted:Wanna vote in the last four quick votes on Toal 4 for 4 hell yes
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binus noooooo... I am now going to scour the list for people most likely to N1 kill binus. Oh, hey there, bif.
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Okay then... People voting Toal: Psycho Soldier: first vote, probably jokevote, not much to see here binus: No justification given (well, technically he later claimed to have picked a player at random, anyway, he's mod-confirmed town) death cob for cutie: Gave this post from Toal as justification: Toalpaz posted:fake indignation Yata: voted right after, citing similar reasons as death cob while also proving they understand what this game is about Yata posted:Same reasons as you above, desinterested posts asking harmless questions at the start of the game and then quoting five different people reads like scum trying to misdirect. But maybe accussing everyone of being scum and awaiting reactions is the true meta for this game. salad: Same reasoning TM: wanted to give binus a cool item Half an hour before deadline, merk and Toal were both at 4, so Bif, AN, RWC and GW voted in quick succession. I think if there's scum in the Toal vote, the obvious place would be in the final four. They were all on the merk wagon before, and, barring RWC, on the earlier Psycho Soldier wagon as well. Thing is, with the items rules being what they are, it obviously makes sense for there to be a rush towards the end, because nobody wants to cast a middle vote and vote themselves out of a cool item, so a bunch of votes piling up in quick succession is not really unexpected. Death, Yata and salad all using the same post from Toal seems a bit more fishy to me.
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binus was presumably killed because he got an overpowered item, and frankly, binus with a vig is a scary thought that gives me traumatic flashbacks, so I kind of get where they're coming from. He didn't get to post many reads, but read salad as town and wanted people to stop voting TM.
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Cloacamazing! posted:binus was presumably killed because he got an overpowered item, and frankly, binus with a vig is a scary thought that gives me traumatic flashbacks, so I kind of get where they're coming from. He didn't get to post many reads, but read salad as town and wanted people to stop voting TM. Minor correction: If I read the rules correctly, binus was not guaranteed to get an overpowered item, just applied for one.
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PsychoSoldier posted:Ok, so I've reread the entire thread, and I think my reads list is something like this Okay I voted for merk and tied the wagons. They then sat there for a long time. People were here. Couldn't get anyone else to vote merk because I am not very persuasive, but also I wasn't totally sold, he just seemed the best dunk for D1. I have no need to seem around when I'm not, that's an odd thing to say and also impossible to back up. you could just say "vibes" and I'm kind of a viby player so I'd accept that, but I don't accept the "trying to seem around" bit. Numerous people have thrown things at me this game like "I don't like these posts"--but why?
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PsychoSoldier posted:You should explain these Scum, Green Wing and salad had some kind of interplay that pinged me. Oh yeah. Green Wing came up with one of those "I don't like this post" things and salad came in with "I also don't like that post but I don't like GW's vote, quit confusing me GW." Looked kinda partnery. Like a "okay let's disagree" kind of thing. Psycho because...mainly, I've seen a lot of scum killing the involved questioning player N1, Psycho was that player, not dead. Also, with Toal's flip, I will say her posts kind of confuse me, they didn't look town, but her being confirmed town makes me suspicious of who she was voting for because as town she's not bad at finding scum (I hate meta though, it can help or lead me down the totally wrong path and I can't tell which is which).The rest is vibe. Clo doesn't seem to be driven by a scum agenda and I like her posts, same with death cob. Bif is survivor.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Okay then... What's your read on me overall?
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Just for the record, I voted late bc I didn't think Toal was scum but didn't wanna nl. Not bc I was trying to get an item
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PsychoSoldier posted:What's your read on me overall? You seem very concerned with others' read on you, why is that? ##vote psychosoldier
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Okay I voted for merk and tied the wagons. They then sat there for a long time. People were here. Couldn't get anyone else to vote merk because I am not very persuasive, but also I wasn't totally sold, he just seemed the best dunk for D1. I literally gave you my reasons in that post you quoted. It's not just "vibes". It's the tone of your posts and the content and how they come about. You trying to paint this as if I don't have a case(incorrect or otherwise) isn't doing you favors. And I read your reasoning for thinking it's scum/scum wagons but I really don't buy that as a natural town reaction to the wagons. Again, it reads like justification for bad votes and encouraging more votes on two wagons that I think are both town. I worded the "seem around" part wrong. What I meant was your posts come off like trying to seem active and participatory when really you're just floating by. You contributed virtually nothing other than a hollow vote on Tired until the two main wagons of the phase were decided and we were close to EOD.
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Cloacamazing! posted:Half an hour before deadline, merk and Toal were both at 4, so Bif, AN, RWC and GW voted in quick succession. This is worth looking at, I think. Particularly GW, who got the hammer, and therefore an item. Scum losing their vote may be a benefit - no vote means no responsibility for town getting executed.
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Rhymes With Clue posted:You seem very concerned with others' read on you, why is that? Because I know I'm town and it lets me get a better look into their thought processes. I actually have a very specific reason for asking Cloacamazing her read on me which should be pretty easy to figure out if you actually paid attention to anything in that big post other than what I said about you. This self-defense focus and subsequent OMGUS vote is not befitting of a townie
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death cob for cutie posted:This is worth looking at, I think. Particularly GW, who got the hammer, and therefore an item. What do you think of the other three? I feel pretty good that GW is just town here
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Well I will try to make better posts but the game is hard and I'm bad at it! Tired Moritz I'm calling town because (1) the posts that pinged me, I guess they are par for the course for TM according to Bif. I was looking at all the "is this ethical" stuff which looked like filler. (2) wanting Binus to have a cool item. So I've got towncore: TM, Bif (survivor), Clo, death cob Sometimes I just want to get lunched and get spoiled so I can find out how wrong or right I was.
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PsychoSoldier posted:What do you think of the other three? I feel pretty good that GW is just town here I'll be looking deeper into it when I'm done with work today
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Rhymes With Clue posted:Scum, Green Wing and salad had some kind of interplay that pinged me. Oh yeah. Green Wing came up with one of those "I don't like this post" things and salad came in with "I also don't like that post but I don't like GW's vote, quit confusing me GW." Looked kinda partnery. Like a "okay let's disagree" kind of thing. I feel that interaction is too on the nose and awkward to be an actual partner interaction. Your read on me is based on N1 having happened. But you had me in your scum list before toal was chopped. So this is a retroactive justification for the vote, which makes me think you didn't actually have a reason for thinking I'm scum before today.
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PsychoSoldier posted:I feel that interaction is too on the nose and awkward to be an actual partner interaction. I feel there is a contradiction here but I can't quite lay it out. Yes I had you in my scum list before toal was chopped. That was before the vote, toal's read helped me solidify it, how is that retroactive?
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PsychoSoldier posted:What's your read on me overall? More town than not currently. There was that early train on you, that seemed to fade out naturally and not like other players trying to move their attention away from you. Read you a bit scummier later, when it looked like you were more interested in posting anything at all and trying out several reads in quick succession, but overall that looks more like you poking any player to see what happens. Also Rhymes With Clue posted:You seem very concerned with others' read on you, why is that? That, but less in a "This player must be scum" way like RWC sees it, and more in a "Wow, this guy sure likes talking about himself" way. 
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Rhymes With Clue posted:I feel there is a contradiction here but I can't quite lay it out. Yes I had you in my scum list before toal was chopped. That was before the vote, toal's read helped me solidify it, how is that retroactive? You literally said with toal's flip, you're trusting who they voted because you think they have accurate reads. So yes, it is retroactive. Nothing in your post actually had anything to do with what you could have thought before N1 other than "vibes"
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##vote ANarc This is still a good case. No content from ANarc that matters at all about finding scum.
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Cloacamazing! posted:More town than not currently. There was that early train on you, that seemed to fade out naturally and not like other players trying to move their attention away from you. Read you a bit scummier later, when it looked like you were more interested in posting anything at all and trying out several reads in quick succession, but overall that looks more like you poking any player to see what happens. Well, when people vote me, I'm gonna ask. I was asking you specifically because I wanted to see why most of your posts talking about me seemed to assume/brush me off as town without ever explicitly stating that read. It's still got me a little piqued, but this explanation is fine for now and I'm not really concerned about your alignment. How do you feel about RWC's reactions to my posts so far? Or any individual thoughts you have on him?
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merk posted:##vote ANarc Good with this as an alternative, too
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PsychoSoldier posted:Well, when people vote me, I'm gonna ask. To add to this, I don't ever trust when someone tries to bolster a flimsy case with a dead townie
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I feel like both AN and RWC are consistently read as scum, no matter their actual alignment. Which, funny enough, keeps fooling me into reading them as town. That post, however: AnonymousNarcotics posted:Just for the record, I voted late bc I didn't think Toal was scum but didn't wanna nl. Not bc I was trying to get an item Is pretty bad.
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Cloacamazing! posted:I feel like both AN and RWC are consistently read as scum, no matter their actual alignment. Which, funny enough, keeps fooling me into reading them as town. I really need to figure out why I keep getting read as scummy! It's getting me killed too early. Re: AM, I voted them in a previous game for exactly the same reasons I would in this game, and they was town. So I'm kinda staying away from an AN vote right now.
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