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In the end Gumroad, Tumblr, et al do the number crunching and cost:benefit and all that poo poo, and they seem to decide that, nah, the porn ain't worth it. Whether you like that, or don't care, or whatever else, they are a business, and I have been informed we live in somewhat of a society, so it doesn't surprise me they pick the option that will either make or save them money. Or at least lose less money. I also don't know if that means that NSFW artists etc are actually a consistently negligible demographic for these services or if it was a decision they had no choice in. I suspect that the only "secure" platform for artists who do this kind of work is probably going to be on platforms for this sort of work exclusively, otherwise this is gonna probably keep happening over and over. Whether they'll make that platform, I don't know. Jumping from tumblr to twitter to gumroad to deviantart, on and on is kicking the can down the road at this point it seems.
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TrashMammal posted:this would never happen under communism I think America has a long way to go towards democracy before it can even think about Communism.
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TrashMammal posted:this would never happen under communism True. I doubt there would be any legal channels for sex work of any form.
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syntaxfunction posted:I think America has a long way to go towards democracy before it can even think about Communism. good news op, looks like we’re finally starting to get our collective poo poo together Tarkus posted:True. I doubt there would be any legal channels for sex work of any form.
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In a few years AI porn is gonna be just as good as the normal porn or better so that's all anyone is gonna look at and then the fundies won't be able to disingenuously lean on the child trafficking argument so they'll have to come up with something new, probably gonna be some horseshit like "ohh but it might have been trained using trafficking victims" I can't wait tbh
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Cassian of Imola posted:I believe online life drawing classes exist. I don't believe there is any connection between life drawing classes and sexually explicit content covered by gumroad's ban. So yeah, you've invented a victim (art students) to be outraged on behalf of when you're just mad about VR chat avs with huge asses going away quote:In accordance with the policies of our payment processing partners, including Stripe and PayPal, we do not allow sales of the sexually explicit content. Sure seems like a rock solid policy totally not written by puritanical ghouls who want to abuse the legal system to blackmail payment processors to enforce their own sexually repressed attitudes between other consenting adults. Love the line that ends with a "where" that trails off into nothing. Totally bullet proof protection of our kids. the guns will kill your kids before the porn does 
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bossy lady posted:"nothin' I can do, dude" I say as I snort ground up 100 dollar bills through a rolled up 100 dollar bill If you aren't snorting your hundreds through at least a McKinley, you ain't living  Sophy Wackles posted:I think porn should be banned from the internet personally. Anyone who wants to watch porn should have to go to a seedy video rental store wearing a trench coat, sunglasses and baseball cap. It is the year of LOL and post-first-pandemic-of-the-new-millennium 2024 you can walk in and buy a full sex arse kit with the model's library of DVDs if you want, they'll brown bag it, no worries. syntaxfunction posted:In the end Gumroad, Tumblr, et al do the number crunching and cost:benefit and all that poo poo, and they seem to decide that, nah, the porn ain't worth it. Whether you like that, or don't care, or whatever else, they are a business, and I have been informed we live in somewhat of a society, so it doesn't surprise me they pick the option that will either make or save them money. Or at least lose less money. The practice here against porn is tried-and-true: deplatforming works. The issue is that you're supposed to deplatform the bad things only. Consensual sex work among adults is fine, but they get caught up with the ne'er-do-wells, CSAM and other such obvious things deserving the removals. By constantly shifting decent and above-the-board sex work into more and more sketchy arrangements, they essentially attempt to drive the whole industry in that direction. Personally, I'd be curious to see what content gets the most chargebacks.
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TrashMammal posted:this would never happen under cummunism
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Hey i just tuned in to say im a big fan of porno and fuckin Whelp thats my story bye
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you could have at least posted the funny version, op :quality(50)/2019/04/11/26533_vignette_vignette-video-autre.jpg)
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Scam Likely posted:Sure seems like a rock solid policy totally not written by puritanical ghouls who want to abuse the legal system to blackmail payment processors to enforce their own sexually repressed attitudes between other consenting adults. Nobody wants it to be rock-solid. It's obvious to me that the policy is deliberately written to not be rock-solid, to allow moderators to make a judgment call for products that involve nudity but aren't porn, such as the life drawing classes you pretended to care about
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Cassian of Imola posted:such as the life drawing classes you pretended to care about It's literally my job, what do you do for a living? Because belittling peoples careers based on your personal prejudices sure does make it easier to write them off as mere hobbies deserving of defunding.
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Scam Likely posted:It's literally my job, what do you do for a living? Because belittling peoples careers based on your personal prejudices sure does make it easier to write them off as mere hobbies deserving of defunding. whose career am I belittling by doubting that a website banning porn but explicitly allowing non-porn nudity will affect normal art classes
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Nicodemus Dumps posted:Has anyone said the spice must flow yet whoever controls the spice controls the univers
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Mistle posted:If you aren't snorting your hundreds through at least a McKinley, you ain't living jeff, now is the time to start stacking. Open DPPH and raise the paywall. However you'll have to assassinate any goons who get out of line instead of just permanently banning them.
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Dumb Sex-Parrot posted:
let's GET them!!
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TrashMammal posted:this would never happen under communism feet pics from each according to his ability, feet pics to each according to his need
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porn is good, sex-positivity is good, having children anywhere near either of those things is bad, weird neo-puritanism is also bad
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Disco Godfather posted:Wtf is gum road?
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Scam Likely posted:Sure seems like a rock solid policy totally not written by puritanical ghouls who want to abuse the legal system to blackmail payment processors to enforce their own sexually repressed attitudes between other consenting adults.
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Scam Likely posted:Sure seems like a rock solid policy totally not written by puritanical ghouls who want to abuse the legal system to blackmail payment processors to enforce their own sexually repressed attitudes between other consenting adults. lol i had to look to see if that "where" trails off in the source link and it does. amazing
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Cassian of Imola posted:whose career am I belittling by doubting that a website banning porn but explicitly allowing non-porn nudity will affect normal art classes mods how many threads has this guy reported for nsfw posts?
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Oh good, another victory for our culture against this filth. As if it won't just continue to show up everywhere, forever, and this isn't a useless fight that can never be won. Seriously, who are these people crashing against the rocks? Selling sex is older than written history and you want to fight that battle?
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Flubby posted:Oh good, another victory for our culture against this filth. As if it won't just continue to show up everywhere, forever, and this isn't a useless fight that can never be won. Seriously, who are these people crashing against the rocks? Selling sex is older than written history and you want to fight that battle? Sexual repression is pretty old too. And misogyny and rape and pedophilia and
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Icept posted:mods how many threads has this guy reported for nsfw posts? not even one, but you make a good point: SA's a great example. somehow these forums banned porn without also getting rid of all the erotic artists and writers, and it hasn't resulted in a christian nationalist takeover or impacted the careers of those artists in any way. what it has done is cut down on the creeps sexually harassing people by turning threads about, say, anime into their personal J.O. Zone
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Cassian of Imola posted:not even one, but you make a good point: SA's a great example. somehow these forums banned porn without also getting rid of all the erotic artists and writers, and it hasn't resulted in a christian nationalist takeover or impacted the careers of those artists in any way. what it has done is cut down on the creeps sexually harassing people by turning threads about, say, anime into their personal J.O. Zone You keep insinuating that these policies don't hurt the wrong people but I know dozens of models who have gotten hit and have to scramble because their income has been cut off, funds locked and their work deleted.
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Cassian of Imola posted:not even one, but you make a good point: SA's a great example. somehow these forums banned porn without also getting rid of all the erotic artists and writers, and it hasn't resulted in a christian nationalist takeover or impacted the careers of those artists in any way. what it has done is cut down on the creeps sexually harassing people by turning threads about, say, anime into their personal J.O. Zone We banned DPPH along with the other torrent subs because of Paypal or whatever, it was back in 2004 or 05. It was also because we had people joining just to access those forums and they'd gently caress up everything else or post tech support threads in GBS. DPPH also has much drama which is why we had a No Homegrown rule. Likely doxxing too so it was easier to just ban it. There was an site spin-off that did just porn but it also had to ban homegrown for the same reasons. So really Lowtax just banned the drama but also anime porn and yadda yadda yadda, Trump becomes the 45th president of the US.
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I just think my friend who takes pictures of herself as various anime, comic, movie and video game characters, sometimes in states of undress, should be able to sell pictures of herself on a legitimate website without issue and without being accused of corrupting youth and without having her accounts locked.
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Scam Likely posted:You keep insinuating that these policies don't hurt the wrong people but I know dozens of models who have gotten hit and have to scramble because their income has been cut off, funds locked and their work deleted. Dozens of models for the life drawing classes you mentioned, or dozens of porn models? Life drawing classes getting hit by a policy banning porn is bad, I agree, and I'd agree that that would show that the policy was actually a cover for purging the site out of puritan motives or at the behest of right-winger pressure groups. If it's porn models getting banned, I mean, that strikes me as an intended effect of the policy, and that policy could have been undertaken for good reasons
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Gumroad is pulling a Tumblr in the skibidi toilet thread the nerve of gumroad kramering in and sealioning all over the toilet thread.
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Cassian of Imola posted:Dozens of models for the life drawing classes you mentioned, or dozens of porn models? Life drawing classes getting hit by a policy banning porn is bad, I agree, and I'd agree that that would show that the policy was actually a cover for purging the site out of puritan motives or at the behest of right-winger pressure groups. If it's porn models getting banned, I mean, that strikes me as an intended effect of the policy, and that policy could have been undertaken for good reasons Just say the quiet part out loud already so you can stop your constant sidestepping that you think everyone that does porn is just as bad as pedophiles. It'll make it easier on everyone.
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Cassian of Imola posted:whose career am I belittling by doubting that a website banning porn but explicitly allowing non-porn nudity will affect normal art classes It'll probably be ok until porn tries to be more artistic and cases where art is sexy. But sure figure drawing people nobody wants to see naked will probably be spared. Slippery slopes are real things when you're dealing with bad faith politics.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:I just think my friend who takes pictures of herself as various anime, comic, movie and video game characters, sometimes in states of undress, should be able to sell pictures of herself on a legitimate website without issue and without being accused of corrupting youth and without having her accounts locked. the full friendship experience is really why you go for the bespoke stuff
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