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Has anyone had any experience with ordering things from ShopBLT? I'm gonna bite the bullet and buy a i7-4790T next month before Skylake hits and cool OEM chips mysteriously stop being sold. Gonna recycle my current i5-4670T into a set-top box sized PC, which will also make use of the 1.5V SO-DIMMs I have for some stupid reason.
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I can't wait to see how entertaining the 14nm fab fistfight moshpit is going to be for the next few years as we'll be stuck with it
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Jun 24, 2015 08:55
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Khagan posted:So Cannonlake moves to 'Tock' now? Malcolm XML posted:It'll be the new 28nm Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Jun 24, 2015 |
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Jun 24, 2015 15:45
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http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117388 This E3-1265Lv3 just popped up on Newegg this week. This brought my server project up by a nice $240, ordering cool efficient chips like this WITH a replacement policy  Kind of wish I hadn't jumped the gun on the 4790T, but oh well.
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Jul 13, 2015 23:22
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When trying to remove the 4670T from my B85 board, I let it tap the LGA pins and they bended. I then tried to unbend them and then pulled them off instead. Good thing it only cost $50!
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Jul 18, 2015 03:48
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The thermal paste was like this on my 4670t for over a year. Due to the amount of thermal paste spillage I'm never following Cooler Master's instructions ever again
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Jul 18, 2015 20:43
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HalloKitty posted:Haswell. Haswell's got the FIVR.
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Jul 19, 2015 04:46
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Gwaihir posted:Well, you get more TDP flexibility on the part of the CPU and iGPU between the higher TDP on the top end pieces and the 5-10(?) ish watts saved by moving the voltage regulators back off the package. I'm sorta surprised they did that since the trend for so long has been increasing integration and simplification of packaging stuff drive by the THIN SMALL LIGHT mania for laptops and tablets.
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Jul 21, 2015 07:35
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Twerk from Home posted:Do the -T CPUs use less power on an average / mixed workload, or just have a lower peak TDP but require a similar amount of total Watt-hours to execute a given workload? I guess I'm just curious if the low-TDP CPUs are made for thermal reasons or electricity efficiency reasons. This isn't always the case with laptop and embedded ULV chips, which need pretty much everything running below a thermal power envelope and the i5s and ULV i7s are often dual-core+SMT parts. However, the standard sized laptop Haswell i7 chips are binned for amazing overall performance per watt and as a result are higher priced per unit than most everything else for consumers. Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Jul 23, 2015 |
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Jul 23, 2015 22:48
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Josh Lyman posted:Welp, gonna have my Ivy Bridge 3570K until I die. 
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Jul 24, 2015 17:50
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The only real performance-boner reason to get any new Intel chip these days is to see how much compute power you can get out of a low-TDP binned chip and Haswell was an immense improvement over Ivy Bridge in that part. I wouldn't hold my breath for Skylake doing a similar jump if they took out the FIVR out of their mobile and low-TDP models.
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Jul 24, 2015 21:48
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japtor posted:Plus it seems like the GPU world is kind of on the tail end of the current/last generation stuff before HBM2 and AMD/NV's next architectures (and finally a node shrink?), I figure I might as well wait for that.
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Jul 25, 2015 05:54
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T chips are great for the performance they give you and you can use them in silly mini-itx custom shells or slim and low profile cases. With an average cooler and not using the GPU, they run at 4c turbo basically all of the time, making the difference between them and a normal full-voltage CPU minimal. The driving reason for this is that the wiring in my house blows and my room's wall outlet throws a shitfit at a higher than 550w power draw. But they're OEM chips and you have to pretty much be stuck with 1month+ OEM delays or comical 50% markups. Amazon and Newegg very rarely stock chips like these. If you're like most builders, you tend to build stuff wider than 5 inches and have actual working wiring, and thus don't really need the power savings (you save like 75 cents a month between a K processor at stock clocks and T processor in most use cases, so that's not even really a consideration.) If you just want flexibility for coolers, I suggest using the S series as they run significantly cooler and lose just .1 or .2ghz, as well as the obvious advantage of being widely available. Also, for T chips, the *65 and *85 T chips loose too much performance for going just 10 watts lower. They don't even clock anywhere near the standard consumer models with 4 core turbo. Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Jul 26, 2015 |
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NihilismNow posted:Thank you for your info but i'd have someone take a look at that wiring before buying a special low power CPU.  ). The patch we had is that we set a really sensitive breaker that trips load to the problem wiring (which is just my room, hilariously) otherwise we'd have to dump five figures just to unfuck the wiring to the house and replace it with an electrical wiring setup from at least last decade, something we won't really have the means and resources for until at least 3 years.HERAK posted:Back on topic. Have intel mad any mention of using HBM on future cpus?
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Jul 26, 2015 22:29
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Intel still uses reverse PGA for standard-sized laptop mobile sockets mostly because large amounts of IO isn't necessary on laptops and end users actually want post-purchase upgrade options. The real benefit to going LGA is getting a better pin count and thus more I/O out of the same space for sockets and using the same CPU package for solders+sockets as stated before, as you can only make PGA pins so small that they will bend upon landing. The voltage/inductance part is largely bunk as process nodes improve. AMD could go the comedy route and make PCBs as big as LGA2011 for 1100-1200 pins, though.
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Jul 27, 2015 18:34
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true performance nerds buy xeon cluster farms
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Aug 3, 2015 18:48
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Ak Gara posted:If it's not going to include a heatsink why not just put the CPU in a standard envelope. Think of the money they'd save on postage! 
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Aug 4, 2015 04:58
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Botnit posted:According to supposed reputable source price for 6700k is $313, $225 for 6600k. Seems good to me.
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Aug 4, 2015 15:07
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AVeryLargeRadish posted:Maybe it will OC well?
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Aug 5, 2015 03:49
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repiv posted:Embargo is up  Sandy Bridge/Ivy Bridge boxes still not dying fast enough for Intel to actually sell these. At least they're shunting development on Broadwell Xeons to focus on Skylake Xeons.
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Aug 5, 2015 14:31
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And if your Sandy Bridge dies, Haswell is like, right there for much cheaper than a Skylake configuration will ever be for the next 1.5 years and you can even reuse your RAM. The desktop single-thread performance field has been a dead end for years. It's a good thing it's worth like nothing now.
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Aug 5, 2015 14:57
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Gwaihir posted:What would mainstream users even do with more cores on a desktop chip?    
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Aug 5, 2015 15:16
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Intel CPU and Platform Discussion: I should have just gotten a loving Xeon or something
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Aug 5, 2015 15:29
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Twerk from Home posted:Given that the non-OC parts also have a 65W TDP instead of a 95W one, the -K parts could end up being overall inferior this generation.
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Aug 5, 2015 17:49
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Seamonster posted:That it may be but...aren't the only other 14nm chips in the mobile space? I mean thats not alot to go on...
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Aug 5, 2015 18:26
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The biggest gains were the internal VRM which turned out to be great for mobile, and since that's gone in Skylake I'd like to see how they compensated for that. And maybe they'll release a Pentium NUC board worth a drat
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Aug 6, 2015 00:45
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THE DOG HOUSE posted:While this must be it (I mean, what else could it possibly be?) I think nobody would complain about a $3 increase in price across the board for soldered chips, and the positive press must be worthwhile.
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Aug 8, 2015 00:40
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Generic Monk posted:does 'portable workstation' mean those 2 inch thick dell business monstrosities
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Aug 9, 2015 15:18
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Potato Salad posted:How much do you have to have going on for it to really stress stuff out? A friend has been playing hefily-modded Skyrim on an i3 4330 + GTX 750 build, and frankly the CPU doesn't come close to bottlenecking.
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Aug 9, 2015 19:23
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HalloKitty posted:Yay for awful thermal performance without delidding on Skylake!
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Aug 9, 2015 21:22
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Skylake non-LGA2011v5 is still dual-channel
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Aug 10, 2015 04:47
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Ak Gara posted:USB 3.1 is twice as fast as 3.0 and is even faster than SATA3. I think my next upgrade would be 6790K if that ever exists. Kaby Lake Nam Taf posted:I can wait a bit, but it just means I'll hold off on upgrading to Windows 10 for a few motnhs until Skylake settles down and (hopefully) drives the 2nd hand Haswell chips down.
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Tab8715 posted:There no availability or Vendors announcing new Skylake Laptops. http://www.engadget.com/2015/08/10/lenovo-thinkpad-p50-and-p70/
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Aug 12, 2015 01:41
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Haswell i7-4790k boost and total speed including IPC is higher than skylake boost  At least Xeon will run cold 
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Aug 14, 2015 19:19
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Don Lapre posted:Intel HSF's may not be the highest of the high end, but i cant say ive ever had a problem with their fans failing. ElehemEare posted:Please, elaborate. The heatsink itself seems to have improved by virtue of being 4 times as large but I'm still wary of the fan on those things actually lasting if they're still using bottom-tier sleeve bearings.
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Aug 14, 2015 22:53
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Twerk from Home posted:I'm curious about your environment now. I've used Intel stock coolers on several desktops over the years, and sure they're noisy and can't handle any non-trivial overclock, but I haven't had a single one break.
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Aug 14, 2015 23:04
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canyoneer posted:If you're using that shopvac to clean the fans, that would explain why your fans are failing at an abnormal rate. Maybe I should invest in a dehumidifier
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Aug 15, 2015 00:39
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Oh boy, he already bought the board? That's even more hilarious  He's gonna have trouble getting past 4.3ghz on the G3258 no matter what board he uses (which is why I suggest either a bare-featured H97 no more than $55 after discount or an H81 board), he might as well go full retard and get a 4790k and direct contact cool the CPU *crunch*
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HalloKitty posted:So what the hell is Intel up to? Now we finally have the direction in which to go: a giant cache along with a 4/4.4GHz clock speed should be something worth lusting after. Hell, the fact Broadwell is used in a Z97 board is the icing on the cake. It looks like the 5775C can overclock a decent amount, at least north of 4GHz, and definitely uses less power than Devil's Canyon doing it. At this point, I want that more than Skylake. Otherwise, they'll give us basically the same chip forever and any actual improvements will likely be one-offs like the L4 cache on Broadwell.
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