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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Xander B Coolridge posted:

Has anyone in this thread even seen a Chechnyan?

I have since their father was my mechanic and I helped translate another asylum application.


The dad definitely identified as ethnically Chechen.

Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Apr 20, 2013

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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Crasscrab posted:

Some goon in the previous thread said that the brothers' father had actually been his car mechanic a few years ago before returning to Russia to work in Dagestan, a state bordering Chechnya, when he wasn't making enough money in the US. Apparently he was a lawyer originally before immigrating, so the story really isn't all that uncommon. It's quite usual to have people that who previously had higher education degrees in their home countries found it difficult to transfer those degrees over to the United States due to the difference in standards.

I was that goon. He was a really great mechanic and super super cheap. We actually overpaid normally because his labor rate was too low. Only issue is that I would have to help out since it was just him so sometimes I would have to get the parts or give him an assist.

He was kind of a weird dude in some ways though. A little distant I guess or like not overly friendly but that is kind of common for people out of the North Caucasus in my experience. I know the personal story of one dude because I helped translate his asylum docs and I don't want to go into details but what he went through would destroy me as a person.

Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 05:51 on Apr 20, 2013

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Obligatory Handle posted:

Yeah, but he asked where they were born. Which from everything I've read was Kyrgyzstan.

I am pretty sure that they left the North Caucasus to Kyrgyzstan but don't quote me on it. I know that the dad really wanted to go back and try to get a life again there and was hoping to bring the whole family back once they finished their education. I might be fuzzy on some details because it isn't like we were bosom buddies. One time while we were there my 15 year old daughter hung out with his grand son watching cartoons. A really nice kid and you could tell the dude really loved him a lot. Tender etc.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

natetimm posted:

It really depends on the degree. Law will pretty much never transfer anywhere, even between states in our own country. My doctor has a degree from Guadalajara that the US is apparently honoring.

The Mexican MD is a pretty common thing. A lot of people think that there should be a stricter admittance process for it as lots of US citizens go south of the border to get their MDs. Probably not the thread for it.

argondamn posted:

How was this not already a thing?

In three letters:

NRA

It won't be a thing any time soon either as indicated by the expanded background check bill that just died.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Mr. Grinch posted:

Who loving gives a poo poo where you're born. Your birth place doesn't mean a goddamn thing, it's about where you grow up.

People from around there generally identify by ethnic group not nationality since borders and stuff have been pretty fluid especially due to the USSR. I can tell you for sure that they weren't of the Kyrgyz ethnicity.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Diver Dick posted:

Also everyone in New Jersey who is "100% Sicilian"

Funny thing. I lived in Italy for 3 years and have dual citizenship. All of the Italians I know view American "Italians" in an odd light. It is almost like they are caricatures or something. My sister's husband is Italian and he found the North End of Boston to be somewhat hilarious. He is from Milan though so take it with a grain of salt as the North and South are really different.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Rusty posted:

I posted it earlier, but it was lost in all the posting.

http://www.newsleader.com/usatoday/article/2097065

Yeah the guy whose asylum app I translated is pretty much hosed at this point. If he goes back to Chechnya he is doubly hosed though.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

BubbleGoose posted:

Yeah, I think I need some proof that that's actually the mother. I'm too suspicious of call ins.

I can't speak to the mother but I know that the father was not an imposter.

Loucks posted:

So you don't have any knowledge beyond "Some guys I maybe know somehow totally made machine guns," yet you continue to insist that it is easy to make machine guns. I'm not actually trying to call you out, but that strikes me as a silly thing to post.

In point of fact some conversions are easier than others, and some essentially require a machine shop.

And some conversions just require a little piece of metal that can be inserted into the gun. Which is probably why it was suggested that it can be easy to modify a weapon into full auto.

Demonachizer fucked around with this message at 12:16 on Apr 20, 2013

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
Something that just occurred to me. It seems like the stay in place request and the close of business likely had more to do with the fact that so many Boston Police Assets were NOT in Boston for the day yesterday (and in other nearby communities) so they wanted to limit the likelihood of the normal day to day crime that would have otherwise occurred.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Seph posted:

Considering he was arrested under federal jurisdiction, the death penalty is a possibility for sure.

He could still be tried on a state level, though it isn't likely.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
It seems like he is almost better off if they weren't just spontaneous guys instead of part of a larger conspiracy. Like more opportunity to strike a deal to avoid death.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Joementum posted:

You laugh now, but when Obama uses this as an excuse to ban pressure cookers and you have to wait hours to properly braise your meat, you'll regret not believing the truth.

Can you braise meat in a pressure cooker?

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Wildlife Analysis posted:

Seeing as braising is basically just slow-cooking or pot roasting, my assumption would be yes.

e: The older brother seemed to be very religious. According to friends, the younger was not religious at all.

Neat. I always thought it required the baking part to turn out right. If I buy a pressure cooker now, I hope I don't get put on a watch list.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Fistgrrl posted:

Yeah, I thought that it was a possibility but it's weird that Tamerlan introduced Mess as his bestie when he supposedly had no American friends. Also in this story a Mercedes was towed from the scene. Does everyone in Boston get assigned a Mercedes or something? Their mechanic said they were always driving Mercedes and Porsches. Where did the money come from? The mom gave facials and their dad was an auto mechanic. I haven't heard any employers mentioned for the bombers.

I knew the dad kind of. He would buy cars at auction and fix them up and resell them. If your dad is a mechanic, it isn't too hard to have an older Porsche or Mercedes. When I first met the dad he was driving a 8ish year old Mercedes station wagon.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

CaptainViolence posted:

So I ended up recording about 20 hours of police scanners the other night, and someone asked about sharing them, so I'm putting up what I have if anybody else wants to download it. I started recording at 11:30 PM MST and aside from missing a few minutes here and there during the first six hours because the scanners kept dying on me, it runs up to about 9:30 the next night. I also tossed in a few notes with time codes for when some of the stuff like "In-n-Out Real Quick" happened, but that stops when I left it to go to bed, so I don't know when perimeter lobster or robot orgy happens.

Fletch generously offered to host it on his site, so you can either grab it from this link here or from Alluvion down below.

Download torrent81 (1 file; 831.96 MB)
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Does it have the post capture congratulations stuff?

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

AKA Pseudonym posted:

From what's been pieced together it sounds like Tamerlan was a bit of a lowlife before he turned to radical Islam. It's not really a huge surprise that he'd have friends who were victims of a drug-related killing.

This sounds like some pretty shameful victim blaming.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Arcene

That might be the youngest executed at federal level. Convicted for a crime commited when he was 10 and executed at 23.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Y Kant Ozma Post posted:



Slate has this story about Dzhokhar's side business with cars or whatever, I think that was brought up in here before but it's one of the few stories mentioning any sort of agitation.

"He was very nervous, biting his nails, agitated," Junior told the Los Angeles Times last week. "I thought he was on drugs, medication."

It wouldn't surprise me if he was buying cars at auction getting them repaired then reselling them. I know that his dad was doing that but doing the repair work himself.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

tacodaemon posted:

Little late in replying, but my favorite part of this is where Dumb and Dumber perplexed the guy they carjacked by asking him whether his car can be driven out of Massachusetts.

They were just being polite. You don't borrow someone's car to drive around the city on some errands and then secretly take it to NYC.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Invicta{HOG}, M.D. posted:

Apparently "the coffin for that eight year old boy is pretty tight, too."

Please tell me that you put that in quotes because somebody said it to him.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

bonestructure posted:

It isn't being reported anywhere other than Fox and the NY Post right now, but apparently there have been developments with Katherine Russell, Tamerlan's wife. The female DNA on the bombs is not hers (most likely it came from a clerk who sold the pressure cookers or somewhere else innocuous) but now investigators say that they have found radical Islamic material on her personal laptop, which is going to make it harder for her to claim she had no knowledge of her husband and brother-in-law's plot.

I know my wife never lets me use her "personal" laptop.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

wtftastic posted:

gently caress Dzhokhar. Whatever happens to him, the bastard has it coming. Maybe I should feel bad for him because his brother "pushed" him into this, but no. I don't.

Whenever someone says things like his brother pushed him into it etc. I like to point out that he knowingly and willingly set a bomb feet away from a family including their two young children. He had choices left to himself from start to finish and he chose to murder children knowingly.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

CatsOnTheInternet posted:

Schools and state offices are closed, sure. But quite a few (if not the majority of) Boston-area businesses are open on Patriot's Day - unless they're located along Boylston in which case they don't really have a choice. Marathon Monday is usually one of the worst commutes of the year.

Coming from West of Boston traffic is never bad. It only is affected right around the route.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Andy Dufresne posted:

What industries are being disrupted by the marathon? White collar businesses are closed that day, retail and restaurants see a huge increase in traffic, and the industrial areas east of Boston (i.e. near the port) are completely unaffected.

I'll also add that the people of Boston, however they may be the other 51 weeks of the year, are the most kind and accommodating people the weekend of the race. The city has a great reputation for how well they treat the tourists which kind of implies to me that there's not a lot of disruption.

It is super difficult to get to work at Starbucks that day.:shrug:

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Wheeze posted:

The most nuts thing about this line of thought, to me, is that the CIA/Illuminati would hire a bunch of actors to fake a bomb instead of just, you know, setting off a bomb. There would be fewer points of failure in the scheme and it would be much more convincing. It's not like they specifically need a guy to lose his legs to fulfill whatever their goal is supposed to be. They're evil enough to frame an innocent and handsome young man, surely they wouldn't be squeamish about an actual bombing.

They could learn a lot from Putin and the Moscow apartment block bombings.

Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

Vertical Lime posted:

Going within the past century, how much outrage was there when Hitler won Time's Man of the Year :godwinning:

Or the Ayatollah in 1979.

I was outraged when it was me.

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Demonachizer
Aug 7, 2004

press for porn posted:

Well they were trying to get him to surrender. Laser dots and snipers are pretty engrained "Oh poo poo, I'm in trouble" signifiers engrained in the pop-culture consciousness that this fool was very much a part of.

Yeah that is why people have laser scopes...

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