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Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Frackie Robinson posted:

In this guy's defense, how confident can we be that given his upbringing he had any idea the significance or weight of what he was doing? I think we would all agree that theres an age at which you wouldn't be able to hold a kid accountable for this kind of thing, the main question is what that age is. 14 seems pretty old, but who knows how little he'd been told.

Given that the Duggar's philosophy of teaching toddlers involves "Blanket Training" to teach "self control"... Josh Duggar is 100% accountable at 14


Blanket training is a type of corporal punishment used to discipline infants and toddlers. Proponents believe that blanket training trains very young children to stay on a blanket.

Blanket training is a method adapted from the methods encouraged in To Train Up a Child

To blanket train a child, a caretaker places the infant or toddler on a blanket and inflicts pain on the child when he or she attempts to leave the blanket. Proponents of blanket training believe that eventually the child will stay on the blanket without adult intervention or enforcement because the child has come to associate leaving the blanket with pain.

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Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Frackie Robinson posted:

I don't understand how this establishes his grasp on sex and the boundaries of appropriate sexual behavior.

The quiverfull and their ilk believe and teach that there is absolutely NO sexual act/touching/kissing/etc permitted outside of marriage.

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Top City Homo posted:

Really sad that christian cultists don't understand that forgiveness for sins are only applicable to sins against God personally, not against people

you make amends with people first and foremost. It's in the Bible.

you apologize to God on your own time

these retards think that mumbo jumbo prayers somehow make them forgiven

And here's the kicker. In all the apologies and apologias Not. Once. have I seen the word SIN used anywhere. "cause in my brand of Christianity you call it SIN if you're anywhere over the age of accountability...and every time before taking the Eucharist you admit you're a sinner. It keeps a body humble and sort of non-judgmental, ya know.

The Buggars are small c "cultural christians" using cherry picked proof texts to justify and promulgate their view of the world.... like ISIS does with Islam....

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Top City Homo posted:

the problem is that it is in the interests of billionaires to have a retarded passive, religious authoritarian society that cannot rebel because it keeps down their labor costs

even as they lower labor costs to zero through roboticization. Instead of investing in schools that would allow to transition to this new economy they are still interested in training walmart clerks

first they want to drive the wages down to the level of the 3rd world

when that becomes uneconomical well you know

but thats the worst case

either way the religious education that is being pushed by fundies is being done in a cynical manner to basically self sabotage an aware active citizenry.


there is going to be a second industrial revolution with growing automation and the more we turn into duggars the more painful the transition will be

Have you ever read A Handmaid's Tale by Margaret Atwood? The movie adaptation sort of sucked but the book? It gave me chills and nightmares. Anyone who wants a peek at what a fundie theocracy would look like should read this novel and pass it along to a friend.

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Krispy Kareem posted:


I thought they were done after this last one? If only because they're out of all the good J names and not even Jim Bob wants a boy named Jay-Z.


They don't have a Judith yet...that's a good Bible name




Then again.......

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


netally posted:

There's a super weird church near me called Plymouth Bretheren and they still do the headscarf thing. You ocasionally see the women out shopping, all wearing long denim skirts and with waist length hair. They barely speak to outsiders and have the creepiest air about them. I honestly feel terrible for the younger girls with them who look miserable.

The Amish and some orders of Mennonites cover as well. What's frightfully telling about the Gothard poo poo is that it tells women how to style their hair as opposed to covering. Covering has a massive history in Christian cultures. ...and Judaism, and Islam. So while one can disagree with it, it's the issue of a relationship between the woman and her God.
These hairstyle dictates? They only reflect the preferences and fetishes of one filthy perverted old man.

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012



Jehoshaphat (kid does the long jump)

Jeroboam (becomes an alcoholic later in life)

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


you irl posted:

what do the duggars think of wet dreams? if they can't jerk off they must be exploding in their sleep

Probably

1) demons/succubi/Lilith
or
2) ones own hidden impure thoughts/lusts

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Geoj posted:

There was politics behind most of the arranged marriages among European royalty though - marry off your offspring to the offspring of your rivals to ensure an alliance or at least prevent whatever nation from attacking you. Not to say this didn't end up with hosed up situations and inbreeding, but it was light years ahead of modern christian fundamentalists marrying off their children as quickly as possible to the children of other like-minded families so they can crank out even more god warriors.

With the Duggar gravy train off the rails it's pretty much unmonied white trash marrying unmonied white trash now.

Jim Bobsburgh

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Jim Blobfish

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


cumshitter posted:

put your baby on a blanket. don't give it any toys or show it any affection. if it cries its trying to manipulate you so dont respond to that. punish the baby if it goes off the blanket.

you need to break your baby like you would a horse otherwise babies try to play you from day one

And sad to say it's nothing new, having been resurrected from less generally enlightened schools of thought. Francis Wayland, a 19th century "educator" withheld food and water from his 15 month old child for a day and a half in order to break his will and proudly wrote about it. http://www.merrycoz.org/articles/WAYLAND.xhtml

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Jumpingmanjim posted:

http://www.inquisitr.com/2487038/ji...uleu-guatemala/


So if the internet is to be believed Jill and Derrick are moving to Guatemala to be missionaries:





Just everything about that request for info on destination costs One Week before loading up a 20'. Load out at your house, WTF?? All household belongings likely self loaded into the can and without proper crating, blocking, and bracing = damage inevitable. Additional customs clearances, port fees, transport from the port - look at another $1000+ in costs easily; because they're going to have to dray that container all the way across Guatemala from east to west - including mountains and attendant fine highway infrastructure. What about your manifest with valuations, dumbfucks? They'll be back on twatter or facebook or wherever shilling for more money to cover their massive stupidity. Now if they were real missionaries with a real Guatemala mission, their denomination would almost assuredly have a clearance agent at the port that they work with on the regular. But we have already established that they're Grifternaries. Gonna be a clusterfuck.

Vicodiva fucked around with this message at 23:37 on Oct 12, 2015

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Jumpingmanjim posted:

I feel if they were real missionaries they wouldn't be taking a shipping container worth of crap.

true that

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


cumshitter posted:



Some of them appear to have accreditation or comply with whatever their state's certification programs require. Except for law enforcement, which "provides a strong emphasis on officer street survival" and offers the "opportunity to ride along with local law enforcement agencies." I'm guessing they pay actual cops who have two year Criminal Justice degrees to show up for it because it's the only one that doesn't brag about how one of their own graduates teaches the program.



"Street Survival" yeah.... if that ain't code for "kill black people and get away with it", I don't know what is.

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Krispy Kareem posted:

All of Jim Bob's kids have J names. All of Josh's kids have M names. So all of Jessa's babies will be named after vaguely fish-sounding S names. Spurgeon Elliot, Spounge Bob, Shrimp Coxtale, etc.

Jill's kids will have I names. Are there 13 I names? Israel, Issac, Indiana, Isabella, Isabelle, Izzy, Ice.

Ira, Iris, Ignatius, Ivy, Ian, Iago Ichabod, Icarus, Ida, Igor, Ilsa, Imelda, Ibola

Sharkey, Salmon, Sockeye, Sprat, Shad, Sucker, Skate, Scat

Vicodiva fucked around with this message at 01:50 on Nov 13, 2015

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


So this:http://www.people.com/article/jim-b...for-forgiveness


quote:

"Start protecting your family by removing books, magazines, television, or internet that have worldly or sensual content," he advises. "Replace them with good things like wholesome music, biographies of great Christians, good old-fashioned family fun and games."


family fun and games


jim bobbing for nuts

Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Blizzy_Cow posted:

Did someone photoshop those dead eyes on the dog or is it from beong abused

The dog's been blanket trained

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Vicodiva
Sep 27, 2012


Salivation Army ain't having none of it:

http://deadstate.org/duggar-linked-...an-trafficking/

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