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Another solid reason for CIG to allow the grey market to exist could well be the inability to claim refunds on gifted items that are no longer in the account. Every time a package is traded, it becomes non refundable. Of course, you can't return a gift after the gifting changes, so you can't even send it back so the original purchaser can claim a refund. Fascinating.
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Wafflz posted:We have no use for actual tinfoil, now if you had a picture of some tinfoil we could talk business. This can be arranged.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:44
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I thought Steam had a monopoly on dealing in pictures of tinfoil.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:51
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Whatever happens at the end of all this...whether the game is released or not, whether Croberts is held criminally liable for his myriad frauds...the whales will be left holding the bag.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:52
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Jethro_E7 posted:Another solid reason for CIG to allow the grey market to exist could well be the inability to claim refunds on gifted items that are no longer in the account. Every time a package is traded, it becomes non refundable. It's true that you can't spend $5 on an account and then get a $100 package refunded on that account (max refundable would be $5). But the whole thing about gifting ships not being refundable (assuming the receiving account has equal to or more spent) isn't written down anyway. So I don't think even the people that believe their TOS is some kind of magic get out of normal consumer protection laws free thing, can defend that. They just started suddenly writing it down in emails and expect people to agree to it. If you've melted one bought package and melt one gifted one, they both turn into store credit, if you buy a new ship is it gifted credits or bought credits? They sell gift cards that work exactly the same way, the whole thing is daft. Whatever you've spent on the account you should be able to get back unless you've currently got less on your account due to gifting it away. If the original purchaser wants to reclaim a gifted item and the account holder agrees, I also think they are on dodgy ground not doing it, as the only reason not to do it would be to prevent a refund.
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I just did an evil loving smelly fart and thought of Star Citizen.
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They should make an official star citizen digital photo frame so they can finally take down that picture of their ex-wife and show off their fleet.
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TotallyNotSeraph85 posted:Hey this looks awesome, thanks for the tip. Backed for tactical PvP goodness. And unlike Star Citizen, Harebrained will actually stop adding features once they hit their stretch goals, and use any additional money to helping improve the stuff they've already got.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:55
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Is there some way I can post on the CIG forums if I never paid for this game? I created an account to troll with but I can't post anywhere it seems.
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Oct 18, 2015 21:56
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Nemo2342 posted:And unlike Star Citizen, Harebrained will actually stop adding features once they hit their stretch goals, and use any additional money to helping improve the stuff they've already got. I was only tangentially aware of the mechwarrior universe. Dune with giant robots sounds pretty rad though. And if their story mode has writing as good as their shadowrun games then it'll be kick rear end.
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Also, is it worth it using a referral code and downloading the game to try it? I've heard its 40 gigs and I don't want to waste my time/bandwidth if all I can do without paying is walk around
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BeefThief posted:Also, is it worth it using a referral code and downloading the game to try it? I've heard its 40 gigs and I don't want to waste my time/bandwidth if all I can do without paying is walk around https://robertsspaceindustries.com/promotions/citizencon2k15 You'd need that to try it, I won't bother but who knows in a couple of years you might want to be able to say you played it.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:00
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BeefThief posted:Also, is it worth it using a referral code and downloading the game to try it? I've heard its 40 gigs and I don't want to waste my time/bandwidth if all I can do without paying is walk around I mean, there's an arena dogfighter but honestly it's not worth the wait for the gigantic loving download. Come to think of it, given the content of the game, it's loving bullshit how big a download it is.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:00
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In today's DickWulf drama channel news
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Ohmygodsquad posted:I was only tangentially aware of the mechwarrior universe. Dune with giant robots sounds pretty rad though. And if their story mode has writing as good as their shadowrun games then it'll be kick rear end. Check out Mechwarrior 3/4 or Mechcommander 2 if you want something in the same universe that you can play now and be an actual game that exists.
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BeefThief posted:Also, is it worth it using a referral code and downloading the game to try it? I've heard its 40 gigs and I don't want to waste my time/bandwidth if all I can do without paying is walk around It's not worth your time/bandwidth. Hell, it's probably not even worth the wearout on your HDD for writing and deleting those 40 gigs of garbage.
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A Neurotic Jew posted:I think if this even needs to be said, it's a good chance your business model is morally corrupt in some non-insignificant way. Pretty much, its pathetic honestly. They don't really care for their supporters at all except to wring money out of them. D_Smart posted:No. There is no evidence, nor the implication that the Upsala Mafia have anything to do with Foundry 42. This has more to do with that quartet and their history. Sappo569 posted:Derek has a good point though, as the Mafia connection is hilarious to even consider The truth is stranger than fiction, really. It just becomes a painfully obvious metaphor for what Star Citizen has become. A lot of people would be given pause and ask for reassurances that they were ignorant of wrongdoing.
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BeefThief posted:Also, is it worth it using a referral code and downloading the game to try it? I've heard its 40 gigs and I don't want to waste my time/bandwidth if all I can do without paying is walk around Nope, there's nothing to do and what is there runs like poo poo / is poo poo
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BluestreakBTHR posted:CIG management is morally corrupt. They don't give a gently caress if dummies set up dummy accounts, lose their life savings, or a marriage is ruined for their game, so long as those nerds keep giving them money. Tell us how you feel about casinos?
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Oct 18, 2015 22:10
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Gerbil_Pen posted:Tell us how you feel about casinos? Fuckin excellent
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Gerbil_Pen posted:Tell us how you feel about casinos? They're poo poo
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Grondoth posted:They're poo poo Agreed
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Oct 18, 2015 22:18
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Help Desk. It is always loving help desk.
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Libluini posted:It's not worth your time/bandwidth. Hell, it's probably not even worth the wearout on your HDD for writing and deleting those 40 gigs of garbage. I've been wondering for a while now, what IS that 40 gigs? Besides hidden butt-rock songs, is it just random code and uncompressed textures or something?
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Gerbil_Pen posted:Tell us how you feel about casinos? casinos have actual games.
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Oct 18, 2015 22:22
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Grondoth posted:They're poo poo If you've even a shred of ethics within you, it's impossible to read the history of the development of electronic slot machines without feeling pure revulsion.
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BanjoFish posted:I've been wondering for a while now, what IS that 40 gigs? Besides hidden butt-rock songs, is it just random code and uncompressed textures or something? lovely 80s ripoff songs about the 'verse and the skeleton code for drink mixing.
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Nickiepoo posted:Check out Mechwarrior 3/4 or Mechcommander 2 if you want something in the same universe that you can play now and be an actual game that exists. Mechcommander 1 and 2 are straight up freely available on the internet because in one of Microsoft's 'we're doing games again, no wait we aren't' moments they released it.
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Raskolnikov posted:I keep telling people I'm a better investment than cig but they don't listen. Hell for 25k a year I would have pretended to be dickwulfs best friend. Touching of course would be off the table but when was the last time a jpeg touched someone? Cigarettes would be a better investment than CIG. At least with cigarettes you might get cancer.
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 ENHANCE!  It looks like she's disgusted with something.
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To get this straight. This guy is unemployed now. He used to work at a private medical insurance firm as a Help Desk Analyst. He says that he has no problem paying $20k for ships or $8k for gifts. And that the company he used to work for has a cybercrime division that would work for him. Does any of this makes sense?
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Is he wearing his stupid cross, AND a jpeg pin?  says he has Star Citizen socks on tooFake edit - I'm the perpetually lazy eye
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All backers will get a free neckbeard on their characters upon release.
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TotallyNotSeraph85 posted:A presumably grown man making fun of someone presumably less privileged than himself in what is Whoa this post owned me lol
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Dante80 posted:To get this straight. This guy is unemployed now. He used to work at a private medical insurance firm as a Help Desk Analyst. It makes perfect sense he is a loving idiot
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Decrepus posted:Whoa this post owned me lol How does it feel to be so thoroughly owned? I have seen people getting owned before but never had the chance to ask Do you feel different somehow?
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Dante80 posted:To get this straight. This guy is unemployed now. He used to work at a private medical insurance firm as a Help Desk Analyst. Yes. That's basically it. In other words, he's a clown who is apparently spending his disability (?) money on pictures of ships. And he's one of the worse abusers in the Star Citizen White Knight community. He's a blight.
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Hey, having a company split into multiple studios is a great way to move money around and make the books look like you're pulling mega profits, even if you're two weeks from going bankrupt!
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