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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Mameluke posted:

Oh jeeze, how are they going to access the uncensored Minecraft library now

That MUST be what this is a reaction to.

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

i am harry posted:

Can you vape it?

A coot I know used to vape meth, he just dissolved it in the vape juice. Said it worked well.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Horatius Bonar posted:

Well.. yes on some level it is a stone that looks like meat that they just found, but it's in the art museum and not the geology museum so that makes it an Art Object.

It's both carved and stained. At least according to wikipedia.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Nothingtoseehere posted:

(got some nice pics of Chinese court depictions of westerners)

I too would love to see these if it suits you.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Vesi posted:

yeah soup/stew is fine because it's just a flat circle, not an infinite fractal maze like rice

Two dimensional soup vs the carbs of cthulu.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

BrassRoots posted:

Sounds loving tops

No, just pants.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Methylethylaldehyde posted:

The fact that we have SSBNs that are actually working as Russia's slowly rot in harbor, and enough aircraft carriers to shithammer basically anything we care to point at suggests that no, our material power is still very much real. China decides to gently caress with us hard enough and SSBN Nebraska gets orders, and turns every city in china over 5 million people into the r/Sino version of Threads.

Most people just don't understand that while the cold war ended, we still have the ability to punch-gently caress literally any nation in the world into a soggy, burnt out husk without putting one pair of boots anywhere near them. Nothing backs up some trade deals like 'you know, if we really wanted to, we could kill like 70% of your population, then dare the rest of the world to say 'boo''.

You type very well with only one hand.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

CIGNX posted:

Why did China not want NZ to go into lockdown? And why was the NZ foreign minister's first call at the start of all this to the Chinese foreign minister?

Did China turn New Zealand into a client state?

The main party in the last government was (still is?) taking donations from the CCP. The current government has atleast made noise about (and probably actually) limited foreign (Chinese) land buying. Winston Peters has a long history of anti Chinese immigration rhetoric but last time he was foreign affairs minister (in government with the CCP lovers) he saw a free trade deal (with attached immigration clause) with China implemented.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

hakimashou posted:

Tiananmen Square massacre day :(

The communist sleaze haven’t gotten even a little bit better in 31 years.

Didn't they get better for a while?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Fojar38 posted:

Those kids that Vader killed?

That was a really questionable example of product placement.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

peanut posted:

I did a tarot card reading for Kim Jung Un and the results were "oppression and horrible unbalance until the day north korea is destroyed"

No surprise :/

Which card symbolizes north Korea?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

WarpedNaba posted:

I'm sorry, but that salmon was left uncovered for the 10 minutes it took you to eat it. I would advise that you make peace with your loved ones and/or gods.

Look it's not some deadly toxin like rice.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Don't forget Hillary would have gone to war with Iran, so as a foreigner I'm glad she lost.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Xinjiang Bill, the toughest cowpoke in the west.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

shovelbum posted:

The US has bigger camp/prison system tho and explicitly uses it for ethnic terror and corporate profits

America is also bad.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Dont Touch ME posted:

Who said they were excited to see that? I'm the one who posted the article and most people were making fun of the CCP for doing its normal face-saving dance routine. No regular here would clap and cheer at 100,000,000 mainlanders dying because of the CCP's lovely games. 95% of this thread is making fun of the CCP and the culture it has instilled in the lost generation which leads to such dire situations in China.


We don't need to go 60 years back in time to find some monstrous poo poo China's getting up to.

In fairness, the post he's referring to is this one.

WarpedNaba posted:

If the dam collapses after the forums die, I'mma be pissed off.

Which I understood as presuming the collapse of the dam was inevitable but I can see how you might not get that and I'm not myself particularly certain that is the correct reading.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

WarpedNaba posted:

And England.

A lot of people did it in England, come to think of it. Celts, Romans, Germans, Danes, Normans, Scots, Germans again...

I'm unaware of any of these peoples enforcing a change in language, afaik language in Britain has mostly evolved organically. Who are the "Germans again" you refer to? George I?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

The White Dragon posted:

same hk must be free

i know a lot of expats live in aus right now, do you expect the australian government will do anything to accommodate them as well?

new zealand this is your hour

Somehow I doubt it's politically viable at the moment.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Ohhhhhboy, just FYI, New Zealand has been letting US warships in since 2016.

https://www.stripes.com/news/pacific/destroyer-will-be-1st-us-navy-ship-to-visit-new-zealand-in-3-decades-1.434597

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

stephenthinkpad posted:

Is this for real? Are you from NZ?

You should ask the NZ government offer more refugee status to HK young radical students who are too poor to immigrate out of HK, not some unrealistic trade "sanction" a tiny country like NZ is in no position to execute. I don't remember ever reading NZ's name in any of the "Five Eyes countries trying to sanction China" news.

I don't see New Zealand putting trade sanctions in place, China buys 29% of our exports.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

oohhboy posted:

The sanctions is only one of three requests. With our closed borders 2# is already hard. 3# is a "freebie".

Australia is in an undeclared trade war with China as well as a cyber war. They have tariffed barley 75% because they took the lead for simply asking to make an investigation into the virus. US is triggering specific Hong Kong sanctions and related to the Uighurs. EU has made dénouements as have Japan and Canada. UK has the BNO as aggravatingly flawed as it maybe is the largest contribution thus far.

It's not that nothing is happening, it's that there is a clear lack of leadership that the US normally takes because you know, Bunker Bitch, virus or not. It's uncoordinated. Hence why I have this line


The thing is we are invariably going to "Hurt Chinese feelings" because No Why. With the pandemic our economies is almost decoupled. National is obviously feeling the pressure as they keep trying to open the borders with China in mind. Labour is already aware having specifically rebuked National on this.

The letter isn't so much a list of things I want as much as it is a set of policy options they no doubt are already considering. Any one of those would be great, the hidden 4# option is what I really want. Jacinda's leadership is bullet proof, more powerful than any direct action we can take. People overseas adore her. Certain things are going to happen, many things from many countries, what isn't happening is leadership.

No it hasn't.
Graphs show New Zealand exports to China, 1 year and 5 years.




Source: https://tradingeconomics.com/new-zealand/exports-to-china

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

oohhboy posted:

(2020)We have lost all tourism and student dollars. It's only a matter of time till we get tariffs thrown at us because we voted one way or another and end up in a trade war like everyone else. Plus we got all the other trading partners. Australia is $14B in exports, 2 way $27B. China is $19B, 2 way $32B. Tourist is $2.79B China, $2.88B Oz. NZ is basically China's bread basket Milk Bottle. We can live without Chinese mobile phones instead get Taiwanese phones, they can't live without food. Even if they slap 100% tariff they are far more likely to buy our milk over some local stuff.

Total trade is $86B exports, 2 way $169B. Chinese $$$ isn't as big as you think. A lot of stuff that is made in China isn't made in China which is getting moved back home or other less hosed up places. As new numbers come out I expect any growth to flatten out if not decrease due to the virus as there is lag as things are ordered months in advance. Source is straight from the horses mouth.

https://statisticsnz.shinyapps.io/trade_dashboard/

Taiwan #1 is worth $1.5B, 2 way $2.5B for the curious.

China isn't some mega monster that can crush everyone. The problem is we are divided.

Your claim was that China and New Zealand's economies are basically decoupled. This is blatantly not true.
The statistics you post here highlight how dependent the NZ balance of payments is on China. We're roughly 7 billion in the black just in terms of China and about 3.5 billion in total. Obviously it's very difficult to predict what would happen in the event of trade between the two countries stopping but on the face of it without trade with China our balance of payments would be significantly in the negative.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Shumagorath posted:

I recall Microsoft being a significant Facebook shareholder last decade but it's indeed a very strange fit for a company that has essentially fled the consumer market outside of Surface and XBox.

Perhaps they are after some of that sweet sweet data.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Grand Fromage posted:

1948, in the UN definition of genocide.

Nah it was the literal inventor of the word, Raphael Lemkin, in 1944 in his book Axis Rule in Occupied Europe.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Grand Fromage posted:

I hadn't read that before, but yeah, you're right.

We can be right together.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

The junk collector posted:

Yeah no, I get that. My issue is that China's handling of the Uighur population isn't cultural genocide.


China has been proven to check more than half those boxes. This is straight up genocide plain as day. Calling it anything else is just muddying the waters.

Cultural genocide is straight up genocide. That definition includes cultural genocide.

I guess people would label what's happening to the Uighur population in China as cultural rather than physical genocide because it's incontrovertible.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I think the CCP probably does have a good side, like most modern governments. It's just heavily outweighed by the bad side. You don't need a nuanced approach or whatever to say it's good they build roads but genocide is unforgivable.
As to Chinese people who would suggest they are anything other than good and bad in different measures for different people, you know, just like other people?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
China has a long history of preventing movement within its borders. The great wall was built to stop some Chinese people from moving south for example.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

The White Dragon posted:

japanese neets aren't really like american neets who have been sociopolitically weaponized... mostly they just spend their days at the melonbooks browsing tens of thousands of volumes of anime porn and buying them with their parents' or grandparents' pensions. the most offensive thing they do is smell like wet dog during tsuyu. or refuse to participate in the destructive system of wage slavery, but the only people who think this is abhorrent are corporatists

Does Japan not have the internet? Why would (I presume) mostly millennials buy porn?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
I wonder how seriously China is going to restrict Australian imports. Something like 40% of Aussie exports go to China for almost 10% of their GDP.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
/\ this is a particularly low effort troll.

Fallen Hamprince posted:

There's no reason to use it instead of the synonymous (and far more common) "miserly" unless you're an internet racist between 2008 and 2016 and need a clever way to call Obama the Forbidden Word.

It's not a synonym but it's certainly used like one by 99% of people who decide to use it.
From the cambridge dictionary
"niggardly
adjective disapproving
UK /ˈnɪɡ.əd.li/ US /ˈnɪɡ.ɚd.li/

slight in amount, quality, or effort:"

Edit: to be clear I agree it probably doesn't need to be used.

Weka fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Sep 15, 2020

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
Data collection isn't per se authoritarian. I'm posting this from New Zealand where my government has a computers probably reading this.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Antonymous posted:

Also just to add to the convo I didn't realize how sexist America is until I went to Taiwan

Would you care to elaborate on this?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

if you think it isnt true gimme a counterexample

taipei of your username, forex, is extremely not a counterexample

Hi, still posting from New Zealand, where our economy is largely driven by the rural sector which sees significant development by governmental and non governmental organizations.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

87% of new zealand pop and 92% of new zealand gdp is in cities lol

30th most urbanized country in the world

An urban area in New Zealand is defined as 1000 or more people. That's not a city.
Our biggest city, Auckland, is 70% rural by land area.
A great deal of business in urban areas is in support of rural activities.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

WarpedNaba posted:

Or long enough in any communist state, given how they inevitably end up.

It's amusing to me that communism seems to function as an effective way to change a non industrialized agrarian economy into a developed capitalist one.


This is paywalled for me.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

bob dobbs is dead posted:

marx rejected the idea of rural peeps being able to enact communism on that basis, that there need to be understanding of the means of production

seems pretty true

I guess we haven't seen ideal communism but I think we have seen an at least partially genuine attempt to apply it to agrarian societies, and I think it's generally helped those societies to transition to something like western capitalism.

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Devils Affricate posted:

The investigation could have been called for by anyone, regardless of their integrity, and the PRC would have cried about it just as hard. They're offended by the fact that another country would call their official word into question, not the unspoken motivations of the Australian PM. Your concern about him is legitimate, but it's not what the PRC is complaining about and thus is a derail from the conversation.

China is pissed off at the slight. All the PM was trying to do was slight China to suck up to the yanks.

Weka
May 5, 2019

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WarpedNaba posted:

The 'Meanwhile, you are lynching negroes' bit doesn't count?

I guess it's pretty different than China's hurt feelings racism claims in that it was true, whereas racism isn't usually behind whatever China is complaining about.

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Weka
May 5, 2019

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screamin and creamin posted:

Oh, I didn't know that, sorry.

It's noticeable to me and others that over the more than 75 years following World War II and about 2.5 generations, the only stereotypes of Germans in the more popular British press, movies and so on tend to be Nazi, scientist, Kraftwerk-type musician, Bavarian idiot in lederhosen and a few others.Even these forums are full of brilliant and original hints to those effects by British posters.

You repeat yourself.

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