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indigi posted:better name. wtf is a Cade, did George Lucas name him. It's not common, but I've know a few people with the name. quote:English: metonymic occupational name for a cooper, from Middle English, Old French cade 'cask', 'barrel' (of Germanic origin, probably akin to the root mentioned in 1). English: nickname for a gentle or inoffensive person, from Middle English cade 'domestic animal', 'pet' (of unknown origin).
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indigi posted:better name. wtf is a Cade, did George Lucas name him. His parents were very excited about the Bears drafting a QB and didn’t wait to see what happened.
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Henchman of Santa posted:His parents were very excited about the Bears drafting a QB and didn’t wait to see what happened. this literally happened with NFL writer Marc Sessler and Colt McCoy to the Browns
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I don't know why people keep calling this a five player class when to me it's a four player class pretty obviously. Kuminga's not on the level of the other four...who could easily go #1 in most years. drat, what a stacked top of the draft.
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Jun 16, 2021 03:35
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https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Go9202poDhBLdvUVZenG2fVXJjA3ZVj8TridlYHT-8E/edit Petey Web's new Kuminga piece is up. Some comments he makes about role and usage make me think that either the ignite setup is too new to put their players into ideal conditions for success or maybe they were putting them in roles teams wanted to see in a way that may not have been to their benefit
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Jun 18, 2021 04:24
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Yeah I think we can guarantee Duarte will be the 16th pick of the draft
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Dejan Bimble posted:https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Go9202poDhBLdvUVZenG2fVXJjA3ZVj8TridlYHT-8E/edit When he interviewed with a NBA team the guy doing the interview literally thought his name was "Petey Web" lol I think it's probably the latter, Kuminga looks like a guy who should be a primary option wing so they treated him like he was. PD touches on this a little bit but I think his most likely outcome is probably something closer to like Harrison Barnes (or Stanley Johnson on the low end) Metapod posted:Yeah I think we can guarantee Duarte will be the 16th pick of the draft Drafting a guy who is going to be like 25 doesn't really seem like a Presti thing but I mean they have like 10 picks now and there are only so many non-college players with 40 inch verts so maybe
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https://twitter.com/Mike_Schmitz/status/1405919166888964100?s=19 THE MOST NBA READY I feel like I am losing my mind how did this become a thing
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Jun 18, 2021 17:16
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It's because he has the Will To Win
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Jun 18, 2021 17:18
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Jared Butler needs a better agent this should have been him
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Jun 18, 2021 17:19
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I think the most pro ready prospect is Cade Cunningham
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Jun 18, 2021 17:30
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i always think of the "most nba ready" marketing stuff as a nice way to say "he won't improve after his second year in the league"
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Jun 18, 2021 17:36
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Old, "NBA Ready" means old.
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Jun 18, 2021 17:39
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I mean that was the moniker given to Brandon Clarke and he's been really good in the NBA.
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DeimosRising posted:i always think of the "most nba ready" marketing stuff as a nice way to say "he won't improve after his second year in the league" I take it as a combination of that and "has 3 more years physical development so is not 6'9" and 165 lbs". So many NBA prospects are basically projected based on their ability to add 30-40 lbs of muscle and then still play the same way. It matters a little less now than it used to, given the relative value of wings vs. bigs, and how the modern big is expected to shoot 3s and not just live in the paint. But even then, some of these guys are literally still growing and because they're being picked as teenagers, no one knows how their bodies will actually end up.
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Jun 18, 2021 17:54
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I know Poku is going to look like Giannis is a few years.
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Jun 18, 2021 17:56
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Kirios posted:I mean that was the moniker given to Brandon Clarke and he's been really good in the NBA. Would like to meet the person who thought he was more NBA ready than Zion. Metapod posted:I think the most pro ready prospect is Cade Cunningham this is also my very controversial opinion But even beyond that the most NBA ready guy is probably not a 6'1" guy who may or may not be able to shoot. Even beyond the obvious top guys like Cade and Suggs I'm a lot more confident that someone like Moody or Franz Wagner can find an NBA role relatively early than I am Mitchell. Wagner has most of the same strengths but he has a better shooting projection and is 6'8" MourningView fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Jun 18, 2021 |
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Kirios posted:I mean that was the moniker given to Brandon Clarke and he's been really good in the NBA. clarke had a huge sophomore slump. he was still pretty good but just across the board worse at everything (on offense, i only watched a smattering of grizzlies games so i couldn't say how well he defended)
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DeimosRising posted:clarke had a huge sophomore slump. he was still pretty good but just across the board worse at everything (on offense, i only watched a smattering of grizzlies games so i couldn't say how well he defended) Someone hosed with his shot so he slumped big from three and was merely good at floaters instead having the greatest floater in the history of basketball. He wasn't even getting minutes in the play-in and playoffs. I still like him and think teams who need a 4 should be trying to steal him from Memphis this offseason but yeah this is a weird time to do a victory lap on him
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Jun 18, 2021 18:10
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He was actually better on D this year so bare minimum he's a great rotation player. If his shot gets back to his rookie year he's gonna be an All Star. I stand by what I said.
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Jun 18, 2021 18:26
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I like him a whole lot but he is not going to be an all star
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Jun 18, 2021 18:46
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You know who will be an allstar? That's right poku baby
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Jun 18, 2021 19:46
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If you can shoot 3s or rebound in college you are NBA ready
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Jun 18, 2021 19:55
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Okc with 3 picks in the first round now.
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Calidus posted:Okc with 3 picks in the first round now. Possibly 4, if the rockets pick somehow falls to 5
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Think Less posted:Possibly 4, if the rockets pick somehow falls to 5 If they get the rockets pick they don't get the heat pick this year
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I don’t like the Donovan Mitchell comp at all, but here’s some nice clips of Davion with the ball in his hands. Gonna be a good player in my opinion https://twitter.com/dxcontent/status/1406302761445212163?s=21
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Jun 19, 2021 18:31
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MourningView posted:If they get the rockets pick they don't get the heat pick this year Ah ok
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Jun 19, 2021 18:58
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Mitchell doesn't have the most creative handle but he has nice burst as a straight line driver, it's just going to be hard to leverage it against NBA defenses if he can't shoot. He definitely shot well this year but that was the first time and the free throw shooting was still really bad. He can be a rotation player there's just no way he has the upside to be worth a top 10 pick in a good draft or is "the most NBA ready prospect"
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straight up brolic posted:I don’t like the Donovan Mitchell comp at all, but here’s some nice clips of Davion with the ball in his hands. Gonna be a good player in my opinion i don’t think he’s comparing him to donovan mitchell as much as he is comparing their rates of improvement from season to season i don’t see the upside though
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People are definitely comping him to Donovan Mitchell a lot
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I know a few Hornets writers like him, how you feel about him as a defensive complement to Melo?
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in theory that’s the kind of role he’s best suited for, guarding point guards and smaller shooting guards and hitting open threes i think the problem is you have two guards in rozier and graham who already fill that niche and are the exact same size as mitchell, so i don’t know how much of an upgrade he would actually end up being
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Jun 19, 2021 21:11
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Don't draft a guy who's selling point is guard defender with a lottery pick.
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Kibner posted:Don't draft a guy who's selling point is guard defender with a lottery pick. Yep. Especially if they are also old. Declan MacManus posted:oh I'm pretty convinced that a big part of him suddenly rocketing into the top 10 is having a similar name and build to Donovan
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MourningView posted:Yep. Especially if they are also old. This is so funny, said the same thing in another forum. That said, teams also want to pick players who can actually play basketball. It's tough picking guys in the top ten who become complete busts who have a "high ceiling". I get it, if your in the lottery, you need to pick a future star. So you pass on guys like Mitchell and he plays13 years and your team drafts the next Josh Jackson,Mudiay,Bender,Bamba, etc....
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chilihead posted:This is so funny, said the same thing in another forum. That said, teams also want to pick players who can actually play basketball. It's tough picking guys in the top ten who become complete busts who have a "high ceiling". I get it, if your in the lottery, you need to pick a future star. So you pass on guys like Mitchell and he plays13 years and your team drafts the next Josh Jackson,Mudiay,Bender,Bamba, etc.... If you want to make this argument for him over, like ziaire williams, I disagree but okay. But like I said earlier, there are plenty of guys he's being mocked above right now who seem like just as sure things to be rotation guys to me who are also younger and with more upside. I don't even really understand why he's considered the most NBA ready prospect from the 2020 Baylor backcourt. MourningView fucked around with this message at 13:38 on Jun 20, 2021 |
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Mac's gonna get drafted and I'll be the first one here to lol at the team that does. (please don't take a flier on him Rockets)
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