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I own a 32" tv. It's connected to my computer. Checkmate nerds. Also, gently caress Ray Rice, I watch NFL because I think it's fun, and I haven't been to a game in 15ish years, so I'm not contributing to the problem at any rate. But I am a Lions fan, and we're not known for being big on showing up every game when we are bad, which is usually.
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Ya'll support a lot worse poo poo by buying sweatshop/child labor clothing and eletronics then you do by watching football. Every time you put gas in your car you are supporting some of the worst human rights abusing regimes on the planet. Get over yourselves.
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Sep 12, 2014 11:40
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Everything you support financially is bad in some way hth
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Sep 12, 2014 11:55
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Football is just as necessary in day to day life as clothing and a vehicle
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Sep 12, 2014 11:55
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Jackie D posted:Football is just as necessary in day to day life as clothing and a vehicle This is going to turn into a really pointless derail and I think we should move on.
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Sep 12, 2014 11:59
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Jackie D posted:Football is just as necessary in day to day life as clothing and a vehicle Well there you go. Endure brutal working conditions migrant farm workers, I *need* to eat! But football, which I don't really need....gently caress man I am OUTRAGED!
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Sep 12, 2014 12:03
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Ehud posted:This is going to turn into a really pointless derail and I think we should move on. Yeah probably
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Sep 12, 2014 12:18
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Quest For Glory II posted:You give them money anyway because if you own a cable subscription you're paying the networks and the networks use that money to pay the NFL Good thing I don't pay for cable TV at all 
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Sep 12, 2014 13:32
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Pull up, thread, nnoooo
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Sep 12, 2014 13:54
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I like how in the game the CBS announcer said this was the biggest scandal in the NFL he could remember. I guess Hernandez killing two guys for spilling a drink on him then covering it up by executing his wives sister boyfriend is less worse then punching a woman.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:01
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Elephanthead posted:I like how in the game the CBS announcer said this was the biggest scandal in the NFL he could remember. I guess Hernandez killing two guys for spilling a drink on him then covering it up by executing his wives sister boyfriend is less worse then punching a woman. Also Rae Carruth, Jason Belcher, Mike Vick, Big Ben
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Sep 12, 2014 14:04
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That doesn't necessarily mean that. Yes the Hernandez thing is the worst crime a NFL player committed but as far as a scandal within the organization this is greater when you have executives lying to the public / police. Hernandez's stuff happened outside if the league. Though I would argue the NFL's history with concussions is a worse scandal.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:05
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Elephanthead posted:I like how in the game the CBS announcer said this was the biggest scandal in the NFL he could remember. I guess Hernandez killing two guys for spilling a drink on him then covering it up by executing his wives sister boyfriend is less worse then punching a woman. But that didn't involve the NFL. The reason this is an NFL scandal is because apparently Goodell either saw the full video, or at least knew Rice had hit his fiancée and cared so little about her that he gave Rice a two game suspension. Now he's trying to backtrack and he's getting caught in lies. Cover ups are never a good idea because with the NFL as big as they are, someone is going to rat them out.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:07
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Ehud posted:This is going to turn into a really pointless derail and I think we should move on. "going to" Anyway I still maintain Goodell is going to get forced out after several weeks of really intense media scrutiny. People can go "lol media" all they want (and it is true), but stuff like James Brown's statement with like a billion people tuned in shows they're not having any of this poo poo. This has reached critical mass, it's not to the point where it'll just blow over.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:23
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Actually Gooddell is going to transform into his next form, a stronger, faster Gooddell that floats across the top of the screen and shoots fireballs at reporters.
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Sep 12, 2014 14:46
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R.D. Mangles posted:Actually Gooddell is going to transform into his next form, a stronger, faster Gooddell that floats across the top of the screen and shoots fireballs at reporters. Stop being funny, I want people to post about how they think comcast doesn't use data from their cable boxes to track viewership
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Sep 12, 2014 14:52
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R.D. Mangles posted:Actually Gooddell is going to transform into his next form, a stronger, faster Gooddell that floats across the top of the screen and shoots fireballs at reporters. Oh man. This is the part where I realize I didn't get Art of the Fire Wheel earlier and end up getting my rear end kicked. 
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R.D. Mangles posted:Actually Gooddell is going to transform into his next form, a stronger, faster Gooddell that floats across the top of the screen and shoots fireballs at reporters. Nah, the thermodynamics wouldn't work out. Maybe blood tainted with pathogens or something.
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Sep 12, 2014 15:49
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Crazy Ted posted:I'm going to look like a complete grouch but what the gently caress is this poo poo? A significant portion of my uneasiness in watching the NFL is based on how exploitative it is, and how much of that exploitation is based on race. Add in the complete joke of how much they care about women, and the fact that it's *this* close to being the actual hunger games, and yeah, it's not too much fun to watch anymore.
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Sep 12, 2014 16:02
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I don't have any guilt about watching football because I do not see football players as human beings hth
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Sep 12, 2014 16:18
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Ehud posted:Everything you support financially is bad in some way hth My Something Awful account gives money to Lowtax. 
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Sep 12, 2014 16:21
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Mel Mudkiper posted:I don't have any guilt about watching football because I do not see football players as human beings hth Tebow was an angel temporarily amongst us mortals for one season 
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Sep 12, 2014 16:21
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Foyes36 posted:Nah, the thermodynamics wouldn't work out. Shiano is Goodell's idol?
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Sep 12, 2014 16:29
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I was starting to worry that this story might not survive another news cycle, but WELP: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nfl-security-procedures-cast-doubt-on-claims-nfl-never-saw-knockout-video/ CBS News posted:In 2009, the NFL wrote up a job description, obtained by CBS News, that defined for teams the responsibilities of the team security director. Views: hahahahahahahahahahahah burn NFL burn
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Sep 12, 2014 16:44
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Burger Trench posted:I was starting to worry that this story might not survive another news cycle, but WELP: Hahahah They really need to stop dodging this and just start apologizing because they look worse and worse by the day.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:11
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TheModernAmerican posted:A significant portion of my uneasiness in watching the NFL is based on how exploitative it is, and how much of that exploitation is based on race. I'm so glad you feel uneasy about it, you should make a post on facebook too if you haven't already
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Sep 12, 2014 17:12
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Man the radio is full of people right now backlashing against the idea of firing Goodell, hammering home how good of a job he's done. It's hard not to perceive conspiracy.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:22
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kiimo posted:Man the radio is full of people right now backlashing against the idea of firing Goodell, hammering home how good of a job he's done. It's hard not to perceive conspiracy. Who is defending Goodell? That's kinda important.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:25
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kiimo posted:Man the radio is full of people right now backlashing against the idea of firing Goodell, hammering home how good of a job he's done. It's hard not to perceive conspiracy. He's not called the talk radio commissioner for nothing.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:25
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Al Michaels for one. Also Bill Burr was all over it today but he's just a weird outspoken guy. kiimo fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Sep 12, 2014 |
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Sep 12, 2014 17:26
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kiimo posted:Al Michaels for one. Frankly I could care less about the opinion of people who, directly or indirectly, work for the NFL.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:31
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You know, if it's true that Ray Rice told the Commish the whole truth and the Commish lied about it just to cover his rear end, I think the NFLPA has a real good case for fighting on Rice's behalf over double jeapordy (even they'd be loathe to do it).
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Sep 12, 2014 17:45
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http://deadspin.com/the-nfl-finally-explains-why-it-suspended-ray-rice-inde-1634008557 Jane McManus ✔ @janesports NFL has informed Ray Rice that it increased suspension because video showed "starkly different" sequence of events than Rice's version. PS Ravens executives said that Rice's description of the assault exactly matched the video.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:48
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Mister Fister posted:You know, if it's true that Ray Rice told the Commish the whole truth and the Commish lied about it just to cover his rear end, I think the NFLPA has a real good case for fighting on Rice's behalf over double jeapordy (even they'd be loathe to do it). Considering how things are going, I expect that will happen at some point. I also expect the NFLPA to sit on it for long enough (the league still hasn't informed them, so they won't take action until that occurs) to actually prevent Rice from playing, so the fight just becomes about his salary, which at least keeps him off the field.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:52
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It'd be funny if the meeting was recorded, then we'd really have a Nixon moment. I bet there's at least minutes recorded.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:54
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Here's what I think the worst possible outcome for Goodell to be: Goodell saw the recording in Private, gave Rice a chance to own up to it, Rice lied about what happened, but he gave him a 2 game suspension anyway and we can all prove this.
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armoredgorilla posted:http://deadspin.com/the-nfl-finally-explains-why-it-suspended-ray-rice-inde-1634008557 Haha. How do they not expect this to blow up in their face? When the NFLPA challenges this, and correct me if I'm wrong but I believe they have an obligation to, then the league is going to have to provide evidence that Rice lied. I can't imagine that a meeting like that wasn't recorded somehow. There just doesn't seem to be any possible way for this to not backfire.
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I'm trying to imagine how all this would have played out if after the leak NFL would have just said "Yeah, saw it - gave two games. Afterwards we understood that we were too lenient, and that's why we have the new policy". I'm guessing this would have died down already. There's only so many ways talking heads can say how disgusted they are, and how Goodell really screwed up. Now there are new stories every day for god knows how long.
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Sep 12, 2014 17:59
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Goodell's just following Garak's rule: Never tell the same lie twice.
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OBR posted:Now there are new stories every day for god knows how long. Until Johnny Football steps on the field and throws 3 touchdowns OR Suh murders Cam Newton on live TV. Then that will be a big thing and Ray Rice will become a, "Oh yeah, so what's going on with that again?"
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