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pop fly to McGillicutty: Feb 2, 2004; A peckish little mouse!

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Some women like the idea of a strong alpha male taking her, making her melt, owning her desire and pleasure.

Then again, some women have rape fantasies. Doesn't mean we should teach boys rape is okay.

I like the idea that anyone who uses "alpha" or "beta" to describe human interaction should be shot in the head.

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Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

Max Hammer posted:

Sorry, I know this is from page 1, and I'm not going to join in on some back and forth about stupid rape culture laws, but please stop blaming 'SOCIETY' for everything. Women are receptive BY NATURE. By the very definition of the word, women engaged in sex with men RECEIVE. Unless the couple is into pegging, that is how poo poo works. Society may encourage them to be meek, I won't argue that, but they ARE RECEPTIVE. Jesus loving Christ.

The greatest way to be receptive is to proclaim your willing receptiveness verbally or even better, in writing.

The more I think about this the more obvious it seems.

Having both partners verbally state their intentions and acceptance is actually hot as hell

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:53

dogdisaster: May 31, 2014; by Lowtax; Fun Shoe

demolition man-style VR sex helmets will solve all of this.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:54

penus penus penus: Nov 9, 2014; by piss__donald

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Having both partners verbally state their intentions and acceptance is actually hot as hell

are you serious? lol. its hard to imagine anything more awkward

lets put it this way, when a girl seduces im not going to be like "Yes do exactly that." to everything she does. that would be ridiculous?

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:54

proof of concept: Mar 6, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

SHISHKABOB posted:

You start to put your hand down his pants, you look at him, he nods, and wow we have consent.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:55

The Puppet Master: Apr 9, 2005; Would you fuck me? I'd fuck me. I'd fuck me hard.

dogdisaster posted:

demolition man-style VR sex helmets will solve all of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVjFOwyy06g

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:55

Applewhite: Aug 16, 2014; by vyelkin; Nap Ghost

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Seduction is a lot like ballet: power, control, and precision delivered with gracefulness and care

It's more of a performance of strength and control, like with dancing, but it only works when the man is carefully attuned to her and when it's her mood, her desire, her passion, and her acceptance that drives the tempo.

Stupid retarded rapists men think seduction means steamrolling over women until they find someone who is too panicked to react. He tells all his friends he scored oh yeah she was begging for it.

When it's done right, there is no passive acceptance or "giving in", if it's done right, she will take it herself.

It's the classic dichotomy between freedom and peace. Is it better to live in a world where we are free to experience the heights of pleasure and accomplishment even though we risk increased suffering, or is it better to keep everyone repressed at a baseline level of satisfaction as long as it means no-one will experience pain?

I will always err on the side of freedom, personally, and I think there are ways to protect people from sexual assault without suffering a loss of romantic seduction in the process.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:56

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

Zombie Boat posted:

I like the idea that anyone who uses "alpha" or "beta" to describe human interaction should be shot in the head.

You "beta" watch "alpha" me, son, cuz I got a steady glock hand and a harder left hook

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:57

Baxter: Sep 13, 2000

These stories pop up from time to time, get appropriately made fun of, and fade away.

Ms. Zaloom would probably liked to have said "No that'd be silly", but she couldn't.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 15:58

dogstile: May 1, 2012; fucking clocks
how do they work?

Claven666 posted:

that is not at all what they said. you just had an extremely emotional knee-jerk reaction that sadly confounded your reading comprehension abilities. have you ever had sex? no one is stopping to ask consent to slip a hand under a bra or unbutton some pants. and yes, while it's true that if a woman ain't into it there will be a lot of signs that a good man will pick up on, men aren't going to get a telepathic message to stop. if a woman is uncomfortable with the situation, words need to be used because that is how such feelings can be communicated. for fucks sake. this is a two way street. Women: say stop if you don't want the dick. you can still say stop even if you said go like 2 minutes before. Men: when a woman says stop, you loving stop. even if she said go two minutes before. World: stop telling women to aquiesce to a man's desires like a duggar. women need to be able to stand up for themselves. it's that simple

thsi needs to be worked out PRIOR to having sex, btw

Nobody in this thread is serious posting you idiot. Now if you excuse me I have to go rape some catgirls

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:00

Moon Atari: Dec 26, 2010

Max Hammer posted:

Women are receptive BY NATURE. By the very definition of the word, women engaged in sex with men RECEIVE. Unless the couple is into pegging, that is how poo poo works. Society may encourage them to be meek, I won't argue that, but they ARE RECEPTIVE. Jesus loving Christ.

The second part of the new sex education initiative is to normalise pegging, ideally as one of the earlier 'bases' that is crossed before traditional penetrative sex. This is necessary to teach men greater empathy for women and is key to dismantling rape culture and sexual inequality in general.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:00

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

Applewhite posted:

It's the classic dichotomy between freedom and peace. Is it better to live in a world where we are free to experience the heights of pleasure and accomplishment even though we risk increased suffering, or is it better to keep everyone repressed at a baseline level of satisfaction as long as it means no-one will experience pain?

I will always err on the side of freedom, personally, and I think there are ways to protect people from sexual assault without suffering a loss of romantic seduction in the process.

It's a false choice.

Stricter standards of sexual discipline enable one to achieve higher levels of sexual experience.

This is why when you are young and you still think touching your willy and seeing a side boob is shocking and naughty, you have way more intense sexual experiences than when you're in your 20s marathon jerking to pink panther videodrome porn. The lack of rules and discipline undermine the pleasure so even going to further and further extremes one finds themselves having less and less pleasure

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:00

spank my snatch: Jun 4, 2009

GargleBlaster posted:

So the problem is that women are apparently taught to fear saying no (not sure who by, maybe I missed that bit in Sex Ed class)

Yeah, people keep saying this, but it's never been my experience. Granted, that's just the anecdotal evidence of an aging anachronism of a poster, but where and when I grew up girls were taught exactly and explicitly the opposite, and boys had the "no means no" adage hammered into them from a pretty early age.

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

my sides hurts from laughing imagining fumbling 15 year olds asking permission after moving each inch.

same

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:02

Whiskey Sours: Jan 25, 2014; Weather proof.

Applewhite posted:

I don't know why you think we're in disagreement.
I'm not ridiculing the idea of active consent, I haven't at any point in the thread. My argument is there are other ways to get and give consent beyond the merely "explicit verbal." The right look, the right touch, the right smile should be considered enough in hot and heavy situations.

Yes, except we're all autistic and unable to correctly interpret non-verbal cues.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:02

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

THE DOG HOUSE posted:

are you serious? lol. its hard to imagine anything more awkward

lets put it this way, when a girl seduces im not going to be like "Yes do exactly that." to everything she does. that would be ridiculous?

You don't have to guide her, just make it clear that you are okay with it within whatever boundaries you feel safe with, then let her roam freely within those boundaries

Also, everything I found sexually satisfying at 16 would have seemed awkward as hell to me at 14. What seemed awkward then became hot and romantic at 20. What seemed awkward then became dreamy and fulfilling by 25.

That's just how it works dude. Part of the excitement is putting yourself out there enough to verbalized your desires.

We are after all, fundamentally beings of language. We are borne from language and language structures our reality it's only proper that our deepest and most intimate moments be regulated by the limits of our verbal consent

Commie NedFlanders fucked around with this message at 16:06 on Oct 15, 2015

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Riot Bimbo: Dec 28, 2006

I can't wait for whatever the next moral panic is so that we can forget about this

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:03

Maoist Pussy: Feb 12, 2014; by Lowtax

Another way in which you might accidentally commit rape is if you refuse consent, but for transphobic reasons.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:06

Applewhite: Aug 16, 2014; by vyelkin; Nap Ghost

Commie NedFlanders posted:

It's a false choice.

Stricter standards of sexual discipline enable one to achieve higher levels of sexual experience.

This is why when you are young and you still think touching your willy and seeing a side boob is shocking and naughty, you have way more intense sexual experiences than when you're in your 20s marathon jerking to pink panther videodrome porn. The lack of rules and discipline undermine the pleasure so even going to further and further extremes one finds themselves having less and less pleasure

By that logic any set of rules would suffice, and there are probably even sexier rules we could invent than the ones being proposed. The "yes means yes" movement isn't about making sex more pleasurable for anyone, it's about being risk averse, completely overlooking that risk is a huge turn-on for most people.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:06

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

Applewhite posted:

By that logic any set of rules would suffice, and there are probably even sexier rules we could invent than the ones being proposed. The "yes means yes" movement isn't about making sex more pleasurable for anyone, it's about being risk averse, completely overlooking that risk is a huge turn-on for most people.

The idea is to move the sexual Overton window with regards to what type of risk people are chasing.

I'd rather people be feeling risqu� pushing the limits with "less than 100% certain" affirmative body language cues than pushing the limits with "less than 100% prosecutable" sexual assault

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:10

a whole buncha crows: May 8, 2003; WHEN WE DON'T KNOW WHO TO HATE, WE HATE OURSELVES.-SA USER NATION (AKA ME!)

My partners scream yes

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:11

Maoist Pussy: Feb 12, 2014; by Lowtax

One time I had this worthless painslut bound to the bottom of her slave-cage with a Hitachi up her rear end, and she came without my consent. If you think she isn't in Federal pound-me-in-the-rear end prison now, think again.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:13

proof of concept: Mar 6, 2005; by FactsAreUseless

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Stricter standards of sexual discipline enable one to achieve higher levels of sexual experience.

excuse me I need to go meditate at the gently caress monastery until I can blast cum into outer space

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:14

nomadologique: Mar 9, 2011; DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

much easier to have gay sex bc there will be a lot less risk

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:15

Applewhite: Aug 16, 2014; by vyelkin; Nap Ghost

Commie NedFlanders posted:

The idea is to move the sexual Overton window with regards to what type of risk people are chasing.

I'd rather people be feeling risqu� pushing the limits with "less than 100% certain" affirmative body language cues than pushing the limits with "less than 100% prosecutable" sexual assault

Not everyone's fantasy is to have sex like a pair of perfectly rational actors on an infinite flat plane with items disabled. If that's what you want you should be free to do so, but I also think people who want to have sex like wild barbarians should be able to do so without legal ramifications.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:16

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Maoist Pussy posted:

One time I had this worthless painslut bound to the bottom of her slave-cage with a Hitachi up her rear end, and she came without my consent. If you think she isn't in Federal pound-me-in-the-rear end prison now, think again.

BDSM is about the only place where I can imagine constant verbal consent being a thing. "May I lick your boot, mistress?"

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:16

nomadologique: Mar 9, 2011; DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

this just means "assholes" are going to be winning the race hand over foot, that increasingly rare species of dude who will just gently caress a woman without her consent when that's what her gushing hole is begging for

man o man

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:18

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

proof of concept posted:

excuse me I need to go meditate at the gently caress monastery until I can blast cum into outer space

No joke I spent a week and a half in silent meditation and learned to overcum myself

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:19

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

Knight posted:

BDSM is about the only place where I can imagine constant verbal consent being a thing. "May I lick your boot, mistress?"

Such prudes

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:21

Commie NedFlanders: Mar 8, 2014

nomadologique posted:

this just means "assholes" are going to be winning the race hand over foot, that increasingly rare species of dude who will just gently caress a woman without her consent when that's what her gushing hole is begging for

man o man

How do win this race and what's the prize?

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:22

penus penus penus: Nov 9, 2014; by piss__donald

Commie NedFlanders posted:

You don't have to guide her, just make it clear that you are okay with it within whatever boundaries you feel safe with, then let her roam freely within those boundaries

Also, everything I found sexually satisfying at 16 would have seemed awkward as hell to me at 14. What seemed awkward then became hot and romantic at 20. What seemed awkward then became dreamy and fulfilling by 25.

That's just how it works dude. Part of the excitement is putting yourself out there enough to verbalized your desires.

We are after all, fundamentally beings of language. We are borne from language and language structures our reality it's only proper that our deepest and most intimate moments be regulated by the limits of our verbal consent

dude this is the least sexist possible thing I can imagine.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:23

Maoist Pussy: Feb 12, 2014; by Lowtax

Commie NedFlanders posted:

How do win this race and what's the prize?

You get to do sex, to a woman

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:24

nomadologique: Mar 9, 2011; DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

and then ride away on a motorcycle after

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:24

Moridin920: Nov 15, 2007; by FactsAreUseless

Communicating is important if you want your partner to cum anyway.

You don't have to be a nerd with a checklist asking 'can we penetrate now' just go 'should I grab a condom?'

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:24

fuck the ROW: Aug 29, 2008; by zen death robot

SHISHKABOB posted:

Yes but they are ok with the converse: if someone doesn't say yes, then you should continue.

Here's a wild idea: women feel pressured to consent to mens' actions. So giving men the idea that "just cause she ain't sayin poo poo doesn't mean she's ok with it," will hopefully result in a balanced situation with communication on both sides as equals.

I think people think that women have just as much power as men when it comes to sex. Women are still taught to be meek and receptive by society.

you posted this without my consent... mods? There's a lot of rape hapenning here

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:25

SHISHKABOB: Nov 30, 2012; Fun Shoe

Max Hammer posted:

Sorry, I know this is from page 1, and I'm not going to join in on some back and forth about stupid rape culture laws, but please stop blaming 'SOCIETY' for everything. Women are receptive BY NATURE. By the very definition of the word, women engaged in sex with men RECEIVE. Unless the couple is into pegging, that is how poo poo works. Society may encourage them to be meek, I won't argue that, but they ARE RECEPTIVE. Jesus loving Christ.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:25

nomadologique: Mar 9, 2011; DUNK A DILL PICKLE REALDO

Moridin920 posted:

Communicating is important if you want your partner to cum anyway.

You don't have to be a nerd with a checklist asking 'can we penetrate now' just go 'should I grab a condom?'

ya but what if she says no but she means i want to gently caress bareback not i don't want to gently caress

gently caress

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:25

Knight: Dec 23, 2000; SPACE-A-HOLIC; Taco Defender

Commie NedFlanders posted:

Such prudes

I only ask permission so my asexual partner can say "no" and I eventually cum from the rejection and humiliation. I'm not sure it's even sex, really, but it's what I like.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:25

Otto Von Jizzmark: Dec 27, 2004

We necrophiliacs are really out of luck since the dead cant talk. All necrophilia is rape

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:25

Maoist Pussy: Feb 12, 2014; by Lowtax

Basically, the purpose of all sex education from like 1990 onwards has been to turn impressionable young male nerds into neutered beta pansexual cucks.

Which, if you aren't a male nerd, is probably a net positive so I think I just changed my own mind here.

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corpuscollossus: Apr 19, 2007

Baxter posted:

These stories pop up from time to time, get appropriately made fun of, and fade away.

Ms. Zaloom would probably liked to have said "No that'd be silly", but she couldn't.

Maybe she said it ironically. MAybe she wants to bang that boy. Things to think about.

# ? Oct 15, 2015 16:26

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