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suicidesteve posted:Norin Soul Sisters. 100% serious post, I'm 18/2 against UR Delver and 2/0 against Burn. Hmm... I have everything to make that deck and it's funny. Can I shove proc into it somewhere from my old martyr proc deck or does it not fit?
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mcmagic posted:I'll be there with Jund. Hi five fellow Jund player. Good luck to everyone going to the GP. Ours is after Thanksgiving.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:27
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mcmagic posted:Have you changed your build to deal with Delver? I've gone up to 4 Bolt/3 Punishing Fire, moved the Library and the Maelstrom Pulse to the SB and I'm also SB'ing 2x Kitchen Finks for the Burn Cruise deck... I always used 3 bolts 4 fires and 1 pulse. I went down to 3 bloodbraids though. The sideboard tech is golgari charm, pyroclasm, engineered plague and toxic deluge and 2 each pyroblast and red elemental. I just lose to burn, it's something I have accepted in life.
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Nov 4, 2014 20:48
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mcmagic posted:Clasm kills too many of your own dudes for my taste. I do think that the 4 bolt / 3 fire is right since you are much happier drawing multiples of bolt. I'm on 3 bloodbraids and 1 pluse too and of course charm and blasts in the board. Clasm has powered me through too many decks to count. It's one of my go to cards on the sideboard. It kills bob and DRS but so do my other sweepers. It's also nice late game if you are playing d&t to Clasm then when they tap their moms drop a charm to sweep the pro red crap left. It's all personal though.
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Nov 4, 2014 21:10
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mcmagic posted:I feel like D&T is one of our better matchups though so I bring in more hate against decks I don't feel as comfortable against MB. Any fair deck is one of our better matches. But making absolutely sure you are going to win is much better. The only decks I have a really hard time with are Burn and Omnitell. Kitchen finks seems like good tech against burn and I may move my sideboard around to accommodate. I should probably take out the chains of Mephistopheles but god drat that card is funny and against Omnitell it's brutal.
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Nov 4, 2014 21:21
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mcmagic posted:If I had a Chains I would play it MB. It's so good vs anything blue. It's not that great since it's a one of. I mull for it if I have to have it. Dropping it turn 3 or 4 against Omnitell is pretty drat funny... They just kind of look at you because most of them have never seen a chains. Then it dawns on them and while they can still win most of them will scoop.
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Nov 4, 2014 21:25
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mcmagic posted:Is Omnitell even a thing in the current meta? I haven't seen that deck in ages... Yeah it's not dead yet and people play to down here because it was so popular the decks are still around. The main meta down here is All the loving delver Stone blade variants with true name Show and tell/Omnitell Fish Jund Occasionally burn and infect will show up but not often. Miracles is kind of rare here. MUD still makes appearances.
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Nov 4, 2014 21:31
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AgentSythe posted:What's your sideboard looking like? In my testing. UR Delver's matchup against combo ain't that good and only the versions boarding in heavy permission (like, actual Flusterstorm) seem to get there consistently. I want to reiterate what kind of terrible people you delver players are.
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Nov 4, 2014 23:19
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AgentSythe posted:No no no, I am not playing Delver. My friend is and I was his testing buddy. Uh huh. Your "friend" is playing delver. Yeah.
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Nov 4, 2014 23:25
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Wadjamaloo posted:What if you had been playing U/R delver since before delver was even a card? Are you still complete scum? No. But that person doesn't exist.
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Nov 5, 2014 00:49
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Chill la Chill posted:still can't decide between miracles, ant, and D&T for GPNJ. I was thinking it was time to dust off ant again but some jerk had a high profile showing of it last weekend. Do D&T with Containment Priest
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Nov 5, 2014 19:57
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mcmagic posted:Lost G1 to 12 Post after he had no cards in hand and i had a Goyf and a Deathrite in play and 2 Bolts in hand. Then game 2 I Sieze him T1 and see show and tell, show and tell. 2 eldrazi and 3 lands. T2 I hymm him and it misses the second show and tell.... If I'm playing Jund I pretty much just lose to this deck, right? There are ways to win, you either stick Lilly turn 2 or hymn and thoughtseize the hell out of him. The other tech is confusion in the ranks but it doesn't work perfectly. Usually I will sideboard out my lightning bolts and fires and put in duress and CitR. The more hand disruption the better. You can also board in surgical extraction, thoughtseize the show and tell and extract the poo poo out of it then rely on wasteland and Lilly to keep them down.
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Nov 9, 2014 06:45
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mcmagic posted:Thinking of boarding a few Chalice of the Void out of my SB in Jund to deal with UR Delver at the GP this weekend... Thoughts? Or maybe Choke? We'll since treasure cruise is a thing I am testing this sideboard 1 chains of Mephistopheles 2 relic of progenitus 2 red elemental blast 1 pyroblast 2 surgical extraction 2 confusion in the ranks 2 kitchen finks 1 toxic deluge 2 golgari charms But it takes out my ancient grudge, which hurts against artifacts, but I'm not too worried about mud or affinity right now. It also removed engineered plague, which scares me since that poo poo does work for me. But we will see. It might be time for jund to evolve into a different build.
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Nov 11, 2014 18:42
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suicidesteve posted:Grixis control featuring Duck Fargo, Chains of Mephistopheles, and Notion Thief. Probably needs some Abysses too. I have won multiple rounds vs show and tell with CitR. The sideboard exists to win against decks you normally don't. And what fair deck has a better than 50/50 matchup against Jund anyway? None.
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Nov 11, 2014 21:56
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mcmagic posted:I have the Finks too. I like that tech. I don't have a chains or I would be using that main. I think Spellbomb is better than Relic just because you bust it for 1 mana. If you can stick a relic early in the game you can whittle the graveyard down and keep it down and if they do something with a lot of discard you can chunk the entire thing and draw. It's the only continual use remover. It won't solve treasure cruise but it can help. Your goyfs will probably be smaller though.
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Nov 11, 2014 22:37
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Anyone going to GP San Antonio?
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Nov 12, 2014 16:52
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Shavnir posted:I am but given its standard I think you're in the wrong thread. Yeah but they usually have legacy side events.
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Nov 13, 2014 18:37
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jassi007 posted:Ok so last SCG open 4th place delver has 2 volcanics. What are the cons of doing the mana like this? You are going the sad if they wasteland your two duals, which I totally would. You can run it that way but best bet would be investing in the volts sooner or later. But Tc has to be banned pretty soon it's getting out of hand.
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Nov 15, 2014 00:21
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bhsman posted:What would Legacy look like if they just banned Delver along with Cruise? Just out of nowhere. It would look amazing. But they should ban stoneforge as well just for fun.
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Nov 15, 2014 20:24
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mcmagic posted:I went 5-2 and still dropped cause it was 9pm and i was tired and cranky and hungry and it was taking forever in between rounds.... Sounds like a GP to me.
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Nov 16, 2014 07:42
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Sampatrick posted:Has anyone seen this deck before? WUBRG Aggro just seems so silly, and it isn't even playing tribal flames. I have no idea how that won anything.
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Nov 16, 2014 22:30
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Engineered plague would wreck that thing.
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Nov 19, 2014 05:41
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AnacondaHL posted:That's not fair, most Modern decks would get wrecked by Legacy decks! Oh yeah it's modern. I forget that since I don't play that format. SORRY GUYS!
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Nov 19, 2014 06:01
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Who's sideboarding engineered plague in legacy and for what? It's actually good in a lot of matchups now that I think about it and stops TNN Jund sideboards it. It crushes merfolk, elves and goblins, wrecks D&T, and kills TNN. It's semi effective against stuff like delver and stoneblade. We had a little tournament today with 10 people. I decided to play RUG Delver instead of Jund. Lost to lands, dredge and smallpox. But I beat Enchantress and Goblins. I prefer Jund any day of the week. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 06:46 on Nov 19, 2014 |
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Nov 19, 2014 06:42
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Big Anime Fan Here posted:Do you bring it in for belcher/storm as an option against warrens? I don't because maelstrom pulse is already in the deck and I take it from a one of to a two of against those decks. But i sideboard out some direct damage to add mindbreak traps if they are in the SB. I haven't seen much combo lately so my SB is weak on combo hate. And I have no idea why you would use rabble master over bbe.
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Nov 19, 2014 19:53
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suicidesteve posted:I have Golgari Charm in my board and that comes on every time. Basically any card thay can be read as "kill all the goblins" comes in, especially if it can be cast on turn 2. I side out my Hymns against Belcher because they're worthless by the time I can cast them. I leave the direct damage in because they usually go off with 10/12 goblins and hope that gets there. Last time I played it with Jund, I Thoughtseized his Belcher and got 8-Goblin'd on the play. I ended up dying to exact damage because I went 7 turns straight without drawing a creature or burn spell (I had sided my Bolts out and I drew 7 lands in a row.) Then the same exact thing happened a week later in the semifinals of a GPT with me playing RUG Delver. And that's the story of why I lost to burn in round 2 of the GP. Oh god that's terrible. Yeah I forgot about golgari charm but it's in my SB as well for goblins along with toxic deluge and pyroclasm. My combo meta SB looks like this 2 reb 1 pyroblast 2 pclasm 2 golgari charm 1 chains of Mephistopheles 3 mindbreak trap 3 engineered plague 1 toxic deluge Oh I actually got to chains the other day against omni-tell. He went to play SnT, and dropped omniscience, he had one card left in his hand, so I dropped Chains. He stared at it. Then showed me the enter the infinite. Nothing he could do because if he had cast it he wouldn't have any cards in hand which means he would just mill himself. And since I had a resolved Lilly I could lock him.
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Nov 19, 2014 20:26
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The volcanic looks good but 2 red can be problematic when fighting through wastelands. I will try it out though with all the blue poo poo flying all over the place.p these days.
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Nov 19, 2014 23:45
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Ville Valo posted:Anyone played the Reset version of High Tide that they deckteched at the GP? I'm always looking for more decks I can add to my bag-o-legacy, and that one's mighty inexpensive. No candelabras! Having played high tides before it's hard enough to go off on your own turn, why add the complication of doing it on the opponents turn?
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Nov 20, 2014 02:01
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I was talking to her end of Day 1. She says that it's definitely weaker than the traditional High Tide, but she went with it to shake things up and surprise people who are used to her since she never runs anything but High Tide. She said this is the closest she's probably going to come to playing a non-High Tide deck in a competitive event. All I know is my resets are through the roof compared to what they were a few months ago. Wow maybe not... I never knew they went up to 30 bucks last year. That makes no sense. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Nov 20, 2014 |
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Nov 20, 2014 02:27
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suicidesteve posted:How does Fish ever beat Polukranos or Hornet Queen? Jund loses to standard decks all the time. I can't abrupt decay a Stormbreath dragon!
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Nov 20, 2014 19:06
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Gnumonic posted:or I'm just crazy, I pretty much only play Doomsday these days so that's a distinct possibility. Yeah as an occasional Doomsday player myself, you are indeed completely insane. I love playing that deck but drat if my brains doesn't start really hurting around round 5.
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Nov 21, 2014 00:13
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Legacy decks lose to standard and modern decks all the times the entire meta is warped around delver and stoneforge. And value creatures running on little mana. If someone there was playing lands or doomsday or charbelcher it would have been a different story. The other thing is who play multiplayer legacy? That's just tough as decks are designed to fight one opponent, not two or three.
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It looks like Aether vial could be good for you as well as swords to plowshares. You can add Kataki wars wage instead of ether sworn, spirit of the labyrinth will stop brainstorm in its tracks as well as containment priest stopping SnT. Vvvv for some reason I was thinking anti artifacts instead of remembering I used ethersworn in affinity so it was pro artifact. Mostly because it's late and I'm tired. Sorry. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 10:26 on Nov 22, 2014 |
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Nov 22, 2014 09:48
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suicidesteve posted:I thought you might want to know before you have a "sac Hyena Umbra Some of my favorite moments! Me: "Lilly, sack a dude." Them: "I will replace with my umbra." Me: "No go friend, that's a destroy effect, you just sacrificed it. now that that thing is gone coming in for 5 with the goyf." Aura hexproof can suck my rear end.
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Nov 24, 2014 18:51
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BizarroAzrael posted:I can't help but think the story and sentiment is undermined a tad by you using $250 of cards against $2. Not my fault. If they want to play buy some real cards. I loving hate aura hex proof. Just like I hate UW Heroic in standard right now. Herp derp my 18 dollar deck is sick and annoying! That sounded pretty elitist but at the same time it drives me nuts when people play semi combo decks. The only combo I will play is doomsday and I kill myself half the time because it's not a noob cannon win button.
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Nov 24, 2014 20:00
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Chamale posted:I almost always win that matchup when I resolve Chalice on 1, but I'd like to win some of the games when I don't draw Chalice as well. I have been playing Commander Eesha, and she (you're right) is very useful against Delver decks, both U/R and the U/W/R decks with Stoneforge Mystic. If some dumbass knows you are playing D&T and they SnT emrakul out instead of sneak attack they deserve to loving lose. Also soldier is a good bet or human in general would be useful. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 20:18 on Nov 24, 2014 |
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Nov 24, 2014 20:07
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mcmagic posted:You don't have to wasteland on T1 or 2... You're also taking out Daze on the draw and not playing a full playset anyway. Like I said above, the fact that the Deck can get cheap wins with a flipped T2 Delver that they have to answer while you're playing stoneforge is really strong. My answer is usually abrupt decay. Seems effective on turn 2. Also saying Jeskai delver is grating to my ears I don't even link it with American delver in my head. That begin said RUG delver is best delver. Or canadian threshhold if you will. Stifling fetchlands makes it hard to keep the smug off your face. Errant Gin Monks fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Nov 25, 2014 |
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Nov 25, 2014 07:10
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Chill la Chill posted:I traded for a tabernacle tonight. It was for EDH, but now I will play the best deck in legacy. Lands?
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jassi007 posted:Ok more legacy chat. Since I'm finishing up my legacy deck, my friend has decided he should get in also. He plays a lot of green and white, he has a ton of modern staples like all of gw hatebears, modern D&T, bogles etc. What is the least expensive way for him to get into something like Maverick/D&T? You could try Nic Fit as well. It's a fun little deck.
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LordSaturn posted:No, I play Legacy Robots, where the curve is 0-dontcare. I watched a dude in the SCG open play legacy affinity, he had one land and a few thoptersword and 2 vault skirges. Then he dropped a loving gaea's cradle, tapped for 5 and stuck a cranial plating on a skirge. My mind was loving blown. How did I never think to add the cradle to affinity when playing it for years.
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