HMS Boromir posted:

DS2 doesn't have passwords, does it? You'd have to pick a god using that one ring to do that I think.

Laputanmachine posted:

I'm not really a fan of the ring matchmaking system in DaS2. Sure it lets people connect more easily with friends, but for me the main draw for co-op in the first game was that you never knew who you'd end up with and that made it exciting. New alliances were quickly made, we would explore, fight and hopefully ultimately survive the boss and then quickly praise the sun as we realise we would never see each other again.

In DaS2, if you're alone and decide to get a friend to go with you, 4 times out of 5 it would be some jerk who would disconnect immediately and then put a new summon sign on the ground, possibly because they want to co-op with another buttmuncher and not with you.

EponymousMrYar posted:

I popped back into Dark Souls 2 yesterday because of this LP (and also because I remembered that I hadn't finished it yet) and the death count on the statue is like, a little under three times higher than in the third video

Then again I'm on PC so that might affect things?

Steak Eater posted:

Actually this reminds me; Only one class in DS2 starts with a shield, and in return gets what is essentially not a weapon. It seems like the game was so intent on being hard that it didn't allow players to have an organic challenge at the beginning of the game, instead stacking the deck so as to essentially remove blocking for every other class. And, given the way that hitboxes function in this game, every other class loses a reliable means of self-defense. Also there's the brilliant decision of giving the Cleric a weapon they can't wield with their starting stats outside of 2-handing, which is only made marginally less loving stupid when you consider that only the Soldier or whatever class Geop picked gets to have a shield.

But hey at least you can buy a shield in town for the price of more souls than a newbie should have by the time they reach Majula!


...I'll stop if you want, because otherwise this sort of tangent might happen every time a dumb thing happens in the LP, and this wasn't even about a thing that HAPPENED per say.

RBA Starblade posted:

Bloodborne is the worst souls game.

Rodyle posted:

arguing that you can get used to playing DS with k+m is like arguing you can get used to playing a RTS with a pad: technically true but still ultimately futile

Whamukars posted:

I suggest that you try to find a mace as soon as possible, it will be worth it.

Harrow posted:

I can't really blame people. Souls reward knowledge to such a degree that they can sometimes be straight-up unenjoyable if you don't learn/find a few early things. I remember how many people threw in the towel on DS1 when they kept going to the Catacombs or New Londo first instead of finding the way to the Undead Burg. People are probably afraid that any given new player will get frustrated and give up if they don't learn X fact right now.

Except that Geop a) beat Dark Souls and knows what he's in for, and b) has three people already doing that job.

scamtank posted:

so is there any actual sensible reason to use the broken thief sword for anything

Crazy Achmed posted:

Same, except mine was Try jog, fatty

Where's "horse" in the menu? I spent minutes looking for it at one point but couldn't find it...

MGlBlaze posted:

Also, Goonther has gotten our first look at Flame Salamanders. The way those things move and attack is loving ridiculous, but that little tunnel encounter doesn't really show you much since I don't think you can even get to it. Thankfully their bullshit is optional (unless they added them to other parts of the game in SOTFS... pray to your chosen deity they didn't), but bullshit is bullshit regardless.

Though I do love how casually your character opens doors when you're in a clearly dangerous location. Especially because, assuming I remember correctly, if you panic mash the action button in Dark Souls 2; that actually cancels the action. It's kind of silly.

EponymousMrYar posted:

I hesitated using Witching Urns for the longest time because I was never certain of enemy resistances.
Then I hucked them at my latest Heide Knight. Still had to hit him a bit because Heide Knight, but two urns made them a lot less intimidating.

I have a hard time justifying more throwing knives though when I could buy 10 wood arrows for the same cost and I pretty much use them for the same purposes.

Control Volume posted:

I'm glad geop went up to the terrace to die anyways, maintaining karmic balance

MGlBlaze posted:

I hated the World Tendency system, personally. Especially because it reset to +1 White every time you turned the game off unless it was a special event, which was infuriating. Pure Black you could get by using stones of Ephemeral Eyes and suicide a bunch, but white world tendency was a whole lot harder to get. I think the only things that pushed World Tendency to white were killing bosses (limited supply) and I think maybe killing an invading black phantom?

There were killing pure-black specific NPCs but the problem there is that it requires you to already be in pure black world tendency.

I mean it had its moments, but it generally just put up a pretty annoying barrier to getting and/or seeing everything.

Junkozeyne posted:

What most people also either forget or didn't know, Soul form it Demon's Souls had advantages dependent on character and world tendency. At pure white world and character tendency you did 40% more damage. In ng+ and further I often preferred to be in soul form only to kill everything faster.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

its random. i got both.

HMS Boromir posted:

Are you sure that's true of anything other than the necromancers? I'm pretty sure you're not guaranteed a full set of Gargoyle gear or a Fang Boar Helm, though apparently that's true of the Symbol of Avarice.

Scribe13 posted:

In regards to the respawn of enemies in DS2, I don't really care for it. It may sound odd, but I tend to like the constant fighting is DS1 and DeS. Continually fighting the same enemies eventually gave me a sense of mastery over that enemy type, so it wouldn't be a huge deal if I had to run a section on my way back to the boss. In a later section of the game, there's an enemy type that I always had a difficult time beating, so once it went away I never felt that I got a good enough understanding on how to deal with it.

And I tend to enjoy grinding on the whole. So there's that.

Edit: Also, one of the later sets that Maughlin sells is my favorite set in this game.

Heithinn Grasida posted:

I'm surprised at all the praise for the mace when the same guy sells the rapier. It does more damage at much less stamina cost with a better moveset against all but a few enemies. The disadvantages are poor poise damage and that you have to be consistently getting counter hits, but most enemies have huge windows after they attack during which you get the extra damage. The humble spear should also not be overlooked, since it has an amazing moveset and the R2s deal strike damage for those times when it's super helpful. If you want to go for strength, the estoc does much less damage than the rapier, but is longer, scales off strength, does more poise damage and has a much better moveset.

100 HOGS AGREE posted:

I don't have Scholar so I beat the first Heide Knight I found two-handing my mace with my Cleric start in the Forest of Giants and lucked out when he dropped his sword so I've been using that since.

Nanomashoes posted:

I'm actually pretty sure you actually can't hit pharros invisible walls without using a lockstone.

KieranWalker posted:

Could you roll through illusionary walls in DkS instead of hitting them? I know that is A Thing in DS3, but I was not aware of it until recently.

Laputanmachine posted:

The only drops I've ever got while phantoming were life gems. Scholar btw.

KieranWalker posted:

Right, so on the Human Effigy thing.

Expanding on what Vicas said. In the original release, you could be invaded anywhere at any time, regardless of whether you're human or hollowed, unlike Dark Souls (where killing the area boss and/or being hollow prevents invasions). You could burn a human effigy at a bonfire to prevent invasions for 30 minutes or so, and I think you got a 30 minute grace period after killing a boss or being invaded (which reset if you changed areas or quit & reload the game).

In one of the later patches--which may have been the "Scholar" patch for the original version (changed everything but enemy/item placement)--From rigged it up so that killing an area boss automatically applies a permanent human effigy effect at the related bonfire(s), making it work like Dark Souls. However, if you really want people to be able to invade, you can use the option "Nullify human effigy effect" at the bonfire to cancel it (permanently) and allow invasions again.

BenRGamer posted:

It's really weird, you wouldn't think adding 0.0333 seconds to your invincibility timer while rolling would help too much, but it does.

Kuvo posted:

fair game

Garrand posted:

Doesn't it give you like 3 different messages asking if you are sure you want to join? Or were those added in later?

Paracelsus posted:

From put in a bunch of warnings, and players still don't bother to read them. It seems like half the time new players complain about the game being impossibly hard it turns out they joined the CoC.

PSWII60 posted:

Not sure why some people hate Lost Bastille, I thought it was one of the better made and more memorable areas in the game.

Nuramor posted:

Because she didn't have a weird old lady tell her how they work?

Wonderslug posted:

I'm pretty sure, depending on how you enter the Bastille and whether you figure out/don't screw up the barrel thing, you can end up trapped with no way out save homeward bones or suicide by gravity. It is a contender for dickiest statue addition, definitely.

Frionnel posted:

Because i didn't find anywhere else to ask: Is there still a Dark Souls 2 or Dark Souls general thread? I can see DS3's.

double nine posted:

Kuvo posted:

Please stop telling Geop to press A on walls, I get a chuckle every time he bonks his mace against one.