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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Caitlin posted:

I finished Yakuza 6 last night and I have OPINIONS!

I feel like they cut a lot of side content down to focus more on the story, which is good for wrapping up the main plot but really feels like a major letdown after Yakuza 0 so amazingly over-delivered. A lot of side missions are boring or chores - hell, one side story actually got me to give up on doing it (loving fire extinguishers) for the time being because it was so un-fun and a chore. Hell, there was nowhere for me to play hanafuda or koi-koi and that is upsetting because those are my favorite minigames please stop trying to make me play mahjong. Was there even a casino!? I didn't find it yet if so.

I want to talk about story stuff too (and will spoiler tag things because I'm not THAT big of an rear end in a top hat) but I don't know who else here can discuss it with me, heh.

Spoiler free hot take - you can safely hover over without actually ruining anything, but if you prefer to be COMPLETELY blind that's for you :

The Secret of Onomichi will largely go over the head of a lot of younger Americans who don't understand the full historical significance and implications of it existing. It is explained in the game of course, but American culture is so hilariously different I imagine a lot of people will go "that's it?" after all of that buildup. That doesn't make it NOT significant, because it is, but I think that's how it'll play out to a lot of people.

The ending temporarily destroyed me.

I think myself as a fairly sizable weeb, and all I could muster for The Yamato Mark II was an appreciation of half-understanding. You are right, the story does a pretty good job explaining how huge and messed up it is for it to exist, but since all I knew was that the Yamato was the biggest sea war vessel i had half-heard about before, it didn't hit me hard at the moment of hte reveal.

I'm super down to talk more about the story. I really liked it, but this is also my first time playing a Yakuza. Previously, I had seen LPs for 4 and 0, and even those I didn't go fully. In retrospect, the world did feel a bit empty, a lot of the minigames and sidestuff didn't hook me, but what did got me really well. As a first experience, it felt tame enough to not overwhelm, but I can see how as a longtime fan, it'd be too little.

I was destroyed for about a minute or three, too.

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
So hyped for Third Person AA4 Prequel

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Can't wait to solve crimes and go to karaoke in forty five minutes.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Unlucky7 posted:

Sorry, but I heard there is no Karaoke mini game this time :(

Aw dang. Guess ill find out what is in the game in nine minutes.

E: played like an hour and a half. Looks and feels good, very nice music.

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Jun 21, 2019

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I'm a filthy gaijin who prefers dubs in games most of the time, assuming they're passable/good dubs.

man nurse posted:

It's kinda bizarre that this was the game they decided to try a dub with again. Like, it's a spinoff title not many people are likely to pick up, not a main series entry, which have all traditionally been sub-only anyway.

Makes sense to me. Standalone story that could break the franchise to bigger heights, while, say, if you dub Yakuza 6 then the people who might care that it's in English won't want to go through five other entries, and the people who will get Yakuza regardless are goddamned mega weebs that already watch anime sub.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Having a good time wiht Judgement, but I must know: where do I go to to start the rear end Catchem sidestory?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Sakurazuka posted:

It's one of the ones on the notice board in your office and you have to do the Panty Professor side quest first.

Thanks! I wasn't far enough in the story for that lol, but now I am, and I'll tackle these panties tomorrow (Three races I like in a row at SGDQ!) can't wait :allears:

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I noticed a patch went up today, it better make the OP play at the start of each chapter.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Finished the first third of the Twisted Trio, and I'm looking at the case for the next part, but I am getting a horrible feeling/prediction that I hope is wrong:
Yosuke is the leader of the Twisted Trio, isn't he?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Well, I can't sleep and it's like three hours before my day begins. My girlfriend is fast asleep so I can't turn on the PS4 and play more Judgment. I also learned about the difference between Judgement and Judgment thanks to this game, and that Judgment was even a word!

Nonetheless, not being able to play made me think of the story some more and I am connecting dots, so here's spoilery thoughts from the middle (late?) of chapter 3
I beat up Crow pretty bad and was on my way to meeting that corrupt cop. So I'm thinking The host witness from Homura's trial is definitely Jester. And I feel so dumb that it took me thinking about the game at 3am to realize that they're fleshing out Jester's character so much at the same time as they talk about 100 million yen being stolen from the family. That was likely the thieves' first hit. Jester is probably connected even deeper into all this, perhaps has a bond with The Mole (who is probably the patriarch of homura's jacuzzi gangster band) unless Jester IS the Mole, since he's fueled by revenge apparently, and killing jacuzzies fits that.
Homura's role in the story appears to be to 'cloud' the 'eyes' of those who are just; the patriarch losing his role, Kaito becoming disgraced, and of course Homura is somehow behind the fire and thus Yagami doubting his Judge Eyes. So Jester being a 'victim' of Homura's tactics would line up.


Very good story and game so far. But also I'm doing Yosuke's host bullshit and i got wasted five times in a row with that girl but Yosuke keeps telling me to go to Apple Pie and drink some more.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

History Comes Inside! posted:

If you're getting drunk and leaving without any new dialogue you need to buy the skills that give you more alcohol tolerance otherwise you're just wasting time.

Oh! Makes perfect sense, thanks. I used up most of my SP recently, but a few story bits should give me enough to get that and continue Yosuke's Saga.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Last time I posted, I was speculating on how the 100 million were stolen. Turns out it was a hobo lol anyway, i've gone through one cutscene that's in chapter 3 and have been on a side-quest rampage since. I'm getting so many friends, eating so much food. I love friends, I love that Ryan the Ninja is now my fight buddy and when some cases have me call up friends so solve things and my gun on the drone.

This game is great.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
*softly, but with feeling* I love Ryan so much

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Pennfalath posted:

Man, the AI is just superbad at poker in this game, isnt it? They bluff almost all the time, and from the moment they have one pair, even if it is low and there are better hands possible, they just raise and raise.

M-maybe you have a problem! I can stop whenever I want i just need to win the next round the AI is smart it is

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Sindai posted:

I keep getting gift packs in the bin outside the office but can't figure out what they're actually giving me. I recall the ones in previous games telling you what was inside but I never get anything like that with these.

Check your items, some will say something like gift pack or whatever in brackets at the start of the name.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Digital Osmosis posted:

When you get access to the casino in the main plot, which isn't very far in, savescum until you get a nine and a jack. Then,


Nets you about 50k chips each time. I've been using them to buy paints and selling the paints at the pawn shop to convert the chips into yen.

Kiryu would have never allowed this money laundering.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Just finished chapter 4:
That is the GOOD poo poo.

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Jul 11, 2019

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I did chapter 5 earlier today
playable flashback case where you dont have any of your upgrades is my jammmm. Anyway i guess this has all been to cover up some poo poo about ds-9? And wow gently caress shintani. I mean rip and all but he had it coming postmortem in the past. I was stumped by how a bit of the trial was worded soit felt very ace attorneyie

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I'm just eating everything in town. God, I wish I was Yagami just going to a restaurant in Japan and ordering the whole menu.

Is any friend remotely as good as Ryan? Ryan has been the only one pure enough to see Makoto, and he's always lending a helping kunai in fights. Can I date Ryan so Yagami is forced to watch Boruto?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Carlosologist posted:

Tashiro-kun is good, as is Ryo Sazuki

I'll keep them in mind.

Also, I'm in the middle of Chapter 6 and I only just now, thanks to looking at the map, understood the hidden message of Tender. Bar Tender. bartender. I'm loving stupid

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

IShallRiseAgain posted:

Majima's secret daughter that is just as crazy as him.

Majima: I just wanted to beat Kiryu by having a non-adopted daughter who would be an even bigger idol than Haruka. When that whole thing with Haruka happened, I just kinda stopped caring and forgot. Anyway she's coming to get revenge on me. The Majimako Everywhere System she calls it.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Chapter 6 spoilers
"Wow, second hacker friend, how did you uncover this real estate plot?!"
"buzzfeed.jp published an article all about it last year"

Sugoi

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

ChaosArgate posted:

Today I learned that Kunio Ichinose, the president of Ikinari Steaks that you can befriend in Judgment, is the actual president of Ikinari Steaks. That sentence sounds super dumb now that I’m reading it back but I’m floored by the fact that the president of a steakhouse franchise has a cameo in one of these games and I’m not sure why considering how many other guest cameos this series is littered with.

https://twitter.com/triggerredd/status/1150417041167245314?s=21

Congrats, you just found out that you sat through a steak commercial.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
We all agree that Yosuke sucks poo poo, right?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
So whats the deal with arcade games? I beat them a few dozen times to get a new friend?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
The noir tales of Yagami and his buddy Ryan Acosta the american ninja who hangs on walls.

Bummed to hear about the other 2 romance options. Deffo felt lame that the ones I had gotten so far had sexual assault as part of their story.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

Booty Pageant posted:

woops!!! i hope i did not spoiler it for anyone who has yet to finish, please do not chase me down and fight me in the middle of the street over it, or i may have to throw a bicycle at you

not if i grab a traffic cone first and mash y hoping the ex move prompt appears


Finally got to put a bit of time in the game again. Middle(?) of Chapter 7 Got the entire Saori segment. The leadup was hilarious and groan-worthy. I'm glad so many people in-universe understand what refined taste is. And playing dress-up was fun (though I wish there were better head accessory options. Picked the band with the flower, but i was mostly going with blue and silver for the rest so it kinda stuck out) Now back to being boring ol' yagami

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Judgment question, I'm in Chapter 9: Ayabe's trial will pretty much be the climax of the game, right? I kinda thought it'd be solved quick, but Chapter 8 was really brisk and I just googled the number of chapters. I was thinking of focusing on the story until my pal was in the clear, but I should probably be spending these next couple chapters on side stuff before I reach big endgame?

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

CharlestonJew posted:

I'd say do the side stuff now, yeah. The game will warn you before you reach a point of no return, but by then you'll probably be eager to see how it all ends so best not to ruin the flow and do all the side stuff now

Thanks! Guess I'll find out now who these five new friends in town are.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

SpazmasterX posted:

The game tells you when it's on the final chapter and it's very obvious about it's point of no return.

I know that, I meant more that for my own pacing, I don't want to be doing all the side stuff while everyone's waiting for me at the point of no return. Would rather do it when the story slows down a bit, and it seems I'm at one of the last points I can feel that way.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I love that Judgment's biggest connection to the main series is an Ono Michio sidequest :allears:

also, chapter 10 spoilers
cleaning up sidequests and friendships while we got Homura tied up in a Kyorei clan hideout feels ver, very rewarding.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
Chapter 11
Here is... The Mole. Slow and calculating. A show of how cold and terrifying a gun truly is. Anyway next miniboss is Bayonetta.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
How does the Mahjong Girl's friendship work? Her place is open and i got a ninetails tile in my pocket. I just wanna max her out without learning mahjong please.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I got all the friends :shepface: gonna finish the story on my next day off.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?

History Comes Inside! posted:

Just to make things awkward there are a couple of main story ones that don't have cats, and a couple of side story ones that DO have cats but those cats aren't required for the trophy.

If you really want it just get a guide imho.

I feel like I've gotten every cat that should be available in the main story so far. I *should* be close to unlocking that achievement as I once again come face to face with the gimp in the final chapter. I will be thoroughly annoyed if I missed a cat without realizing.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
67 hours later I have beaten Judgment. Great story, if shockingly 'simple'. Definitely would like another go as Yagami, but im kinda cool with his story ending here as a cool one-off.


Tried the secret boss for a bit before giving up and watching a video. Next week its scifi kamurocho with stands.

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
https://twitter.com/Nibellion/status/1166039168591548418?s=19

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I was so sure that (finale spoiler) Shono was gonna rip his coat and shirt off to reveal a buff manlet

MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
The thing with Koga is that guns in this game are loving dangerous. In story they're used extremely coldly, and it's reflected fair enough in gameplay when handguns do insane knockback, mortal damage and damage. Guns are powerful, fitting for this more grounded game. And you then have to fight Bayonetta.

https://twitter.com/morningmoonmeme/status/1164509275986771969

(yes i know i suck, if the poker AIs can't make me cry then neither will your comments. :colbert: )

MorningMoon fucked around with this message at 02:33 on Aug 29, 2019

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MorningMoon
Dec 29, 2013

He's been tapping into Aunt May's bank account!
Didn't I kill him with a HELICOPTER?
I see this as a way to further emphasize heat moves.

Not too into it but im curious to see it play out.

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