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Gonzo McFee posted:
The real April Fool is me for willingly reading all those words of royal gossip. Jesus I'm dumb.
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Lightningproof posted:Sorry, are these normal parliament-style votes ('Aye' and 'Nay' rooms for each one) or a sheet of paper with box-ticking like last week? Sheet of paper with boxes to tick.
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Apr 1, 2019 17:00
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Ken Clarke having a go at others for filibustering and then going on for half an hour is loving impressive.
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Jose posted:no deal shoudl never be on a referendum OK, but what if No Deal is the only option on the referendum instead?
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UnlimitedSpessmans posted:https://www.twitch.tv/ukparliament Russia chickening out during the Cuban Missile Crisis and averting nuclear war was a mistake. 1st April 1939, the last Republican forces surrender and Franco declares victory in the Spanish Civil War. A bad day. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 21:32 on Apr 1, 2019 |
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Reveilled posted:Apparently the division bell was rung about 5 minutes ago, which signals resumption 10 minutes afterward. Not my favourite Pink Floyd album
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It's bad to be right. Nothing meaningful will pass in this parliament. We need an election but unfortunately that won't pass either so huzzah.
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Apr 1, 2019 22:17
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I'm confused at all the people who hadn't at least somewhat prepared themselves mentally for the worst outcome. We originally meant to have already No Deal'd out days ago. Even if one of the votes succeeded tonight May would've ignore the results and blame parliament for blocking Brexit. And make no mistake, if push comes to shove the PM will sacrifice the country to save her party and if that means No Deal then "oh well, won't impact me very much if at all". But going down as the PM responsible for the biggest split in the Tories since the Corn Laws? Gotta protect that non-existant legacy. I'm also coming round on the idea that Brexit won't be THAT bad in the short term. By which I mean rather than a nice quick gunshot through the brainstem it'll be death by a thousand cuts. Quality of life will drop, austerity will "have to" ramp up rather than be stopped, the Health Service will be "opened up to competition" as part of trade deals, aka sold off piecemeal. None of it'll happen noticeably, just a slow march on to oblivion and you look behind you and oops, I guess it wasn't always like this. It should all kick off but I imagine the gradual managed decline just puts folk off making the effort.
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caps on caps on caps posted:Nobody wants Brexit but I think some of y'all need to chill. The EU is happy to let people die in other non-EU countries across the globe so I don't see how the UK is special in that regard.
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Grey Hunter posted:I guess the only good thing you can say is that thing are moving in the right direction? the votes were closer, and they can easily grab Friday for another runoff if the don't make it across the line tomorrow. To be fair, we had the first one since the Provincial IRA were at their peak, Jo Cox.
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goddamnedtwisto posted:This is a LOCAL terrorist cell for LOCAL people. That was probably the single greatest autocorrect my phone dictionary has ever pulled.
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Steve Bell is a national treasure. I grew up with a couple of his Maggie's Farm books from before he started If, they were the first comics I was really exposed to and even though the satire was often wasted on me, the visuals were loving tremendous. Norman Tebbit as zombie is obvious really but it was so good. Maybe I need to try find those collections and scan them.
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Apr 2, 2019 11:26
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Gonzo McFee posted:NOTHING What's changed is this development no longer excites. Talk about the girl who cried wolf. Just gently caress off already.
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Apr 2, 2019 15:38
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dispatch_async posted:Norman Lamb is on the BBC shredding the Lib Dem leadership, to the point that the presenter asked if he was going to quit the party (no). Sounds like he'd be right at home in CUK/TINGE
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AceOfFlames posted:Good question, is there anywhere left on earth where democracy isn't dying? democratic people's republic of Korea. It's in the name
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Iymarra posted:Surprised there's been no peeps of leaks from Num10 today, even with their phones taken off them. Surely some slippery bastard would have a spare, or something to call a lackey. Michael Gove stores his phone up his bum. Not for reasons of subterfuge, he just likes when it vibrates when someone tweets him calling him a stupid oval office
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communism bitch posted:I just went to the funeral of an elderly colleague's husband and it turns out he was a loving Serb Chetnik in WW2. I went to a fascists funeral and didn't realise until it was too late At least he was probably a fascist who killed some other fascists? Doesn't get much grimmer than the Ustase.
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Regarde Aduck posted:Depends how depressing you want it to be Wow, check this guy feeling really sad about the end of the Nazi regime. Watch Das Boot Alternatively, A Field in England which isn't really a war film but is set during the English Civil War. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 19:12 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 19:04
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Only socialists Jacob likes are of the national variety.
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keep punching joe posted:Haha the cabinet discussed ways to ratfuck Corbyn and split off the Labour right. None of them because they are all Tories? On the topic of war films, I was reminded of Culloden, an old BBC docudrama from the '60s about the last pitched battle fought in Great Britain. I remember seeing it as a kid, possibly at a small cinema at the visitor centre and it was kind of harrowing really. Mostly about how the Jacobites were properly lead by morons, mostly made up basically feudal peasants who had no say in signing up but owed their loyalty to their Chieftan. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 19:26 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Z the IVth posted:Merkel will be dusting off the plans for Operation Sealion to annex what remains in a few years. Could the French do it instead? I only just started trying to learn French, don't want to have to start from scratch with German.
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Culloden is on Youtube. It's only 70 minutes, I recommend it.
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:The best war movie is Small Soldiers WATCH DAS BOOT A war correspondent goes on a U-Boat and lol it's misery and tension and god it's so good. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 19:55 on Apr 2, 2019 |
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Apr 2, 2019 19:51
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EmptyVessel posted:Was listening to some old tunes last night and have decided that next time May goes to the EU they need to usher her into an empty room with this playing on repeat. I'm a moron, I need talkies.
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Renaissance Spam posted:Has anybody mentioned Tora! Tora! Tora! or Waterloo? Sorry, I loving hate Abba
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coffeetable posted:welllllll at least now i understand why may didn't try to get a cross-party compromise in the first place. it's not that she's stubborn (though she is), it's because her party are loving nutters lol at somehow not being aware of that fact.
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He's on the Daily Politics!
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mehall posted:Didn't look too bad last time I looked out a window, but it was definitely ominous clouds. I know it's some way from Glasgow but there are some roads shut from snow in the Highlands and Aberdeenshire. Slochd being the most notable one.
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AceOfFlames posted:Look at the world, are you saying I have no reasons for it? Sure, the world is grim. But getting all het up permanently about poo poo you have no control over is a horrible road to go down. Learning to let go isn't necessarily for everyone, I get that, & hell, I certainly don't always manage to achieve a serene layer of protective detached irony, but it's a coping method that's a lot less harmful than the poo poo I used to do and has still left me with a bunch of empathy. In fact I'm a far better person than I was when I was more "passionate" and also chronically depressed. Also cheaper which is handy. Are you on meds? You say you read Camus, have you specifically read The Myth of Sisyphus? It's a philosophical work rather than fiction but it deals specifically with the absurdity of life and of suicide. Not for everyone obviously but I find the final line of the 4th chapter comforting despite it's simplicity; "One must imagine Sisyphus happy." Sisyphus is the absurd "hero" in that he has no hope of improvement of his condition, every time he almost gets that damned rock to the top of the hill it rolls back down again and eventually he has to accept that this is his lot for eternity. But despite that futility he keeps on pushing, which is in itself grants a sort of freedom.
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AceOfFlames posted:My psych put me on Fluoxetine, it didn't work, stopped taking it and discussed it with him and he just went "well, you look a lot better to me, you don't need any more meds". One of the reasons I am trying to get someone else. You are in the UK, right? Coz it is easy as gently caress to get on SSRIs. GPs hand them out like American GPs handout opiates. I never end up bothering with a psychiatrist after maybe one referral because to get there involves trekking almost 2 hours by bus while the GP is 5 minutes away, but any time I've gone to a GP's surgery, up here or down in Glasgow, it's super easy to just explain how my mood is low & I'm depressed and then they give you that questionnaire to fill in and you fill it in not as you feel right now but as you do on your worst day coz I dunno about you but I never go to the GP when I'm at my worst, I have to have a bit to me before I get the motivation for that. And then walkout with a prescription for something and probably a follow up 2 weeks away and maybe even a referral to some community mental health team who won't see you for 2 months because waiting lists and then will just refer you for self-guided CBT despite you clearly pointing out a complete lack of motivation and effort. I've been on sertraline for 2 or 3 years now and after a while I forget how bad normal used to be. Sorry, that turned into me rambling about the NHS's flaws (or at least NHS Highland) when it comes to mental health care, which ultimately comes from lack of funding from central government. Point is, go see your GP and they should be able to give you a prescription then & there, without needing it from a shrink, although still try for a new one of those too. Breath Ray posted:the german guy who advises merkel said he saw himself as sissyphus in lunch with the ft the otehre day, you know the one, the wheelchair user Schauble? That oval office is Zeus consigning the Greeks to keep on rolling that boulder, loving cheek of him. Guavanaut posted:Emphasis on the 'must' and 'imagine', it's something that you have to do to embrace the absurd. Quillette can gently caress off trying to ruin Camus, he was a good anarchist lad and a goalkeeper too so extra cool in my book. Trash website. V. Illych L. posted:you people really are headed for hard brexit at this rate jesus loving christ Hardest Brexit is deffo one of those things where I've gone full Myth of Sisyphus & have been fully prepared mentally for for a while now. The only thing that can stop it is an election being called & that's just not happening so there we go. Brexit is the legal default, HoC utterly hosed up by letting May drag this poo poo out unproductively for so long, wasting the past 2 years forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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Regarde Aduck posted:I don't think he is. For one thing he regularly gets to see a psychologist. Technically it's really easy to get to see one in this country, so long as you have the money or health insurance to go private. Oh well, if AceOfFlames is any where else my advice is absolutely bloody useless to him then. Ho hum 3rd April 1888 - Emma Smith is attacked in Whitechapel, London, later dying in hospital. This is notable because she was the first woman of 11 to be murdered in that deprived part of London over a 3 year period. Jack The Ripper & all that. forkboy84 fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Apr 3, 2019 |
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Breath Ray posted:settraline. sthink thats hwat joses said he was taking too? not sure what powewr level you two are on but interested to know if it makes things a little brighter. i hearrd its supposed to be more effective with cbt and other stuff from a depresed firend Pretty sure the main CBT Jose swears by is cock and ball torture. But yeah, sertraline has been good for me. Not magic, and you need a degree of expectation management, they aren't magic happy pills, still get low but less often and much less severely than when I was not taking them. I used to have casual thoughts of stepping into traffic on a daily basis and it's super loving boring how normal that was. Definitely worked better for me than fluoxetine, started on 50mg, now up to 100mg daily which does a good job just making life bearable. Recommended. Citalopram was also decent for me but I wasn't on that for very long before moving away and not signing up with a new GP. And all that is despite a complete absence of other help aside from a brief "guided CBT course" which just did nowt for me. Still though, don't go in thinking they make everything hunky dory, and if you do get on them read the info about side effects coz that poo poo kicked my arse hard for 3-4 weeks before I got used to them. Nauseous for the first couple days and then I just couldn't get my dick to work. That lasted a month or so and that whole time you've not really started getting benefits of the pills so it can gently caress you up, but worth sticking through it. And if you decide to go off them, speak to your doctor because going off cold turkey has serious risks of just sending your mood through the floor. Increased risk of suicidal thoughts. It's shite, learn from my mistake and taper off and do it under medical supervision.
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Azza Bamboo posted:so is a VONC coming the moment the bill finishes the Lords? Dinnae be daft, a VONC would be good and good things don't happen in British politics.
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CyberPingu posted:I should probably know this living in the UK and all, but does the UK actually have a constitution? I was under the assumption that we didnt really have one in the sense that its a full blown written out document. So all these gammons calling poo poo "Unconstitutional" is basically screaming into the void right? There's not one constitutional document, the British constitution is a bunch of different laws bashed together. The laws which make that up according to a Committee in the Houses of Parliament can be found here but include Magna Carta & the two Acts of Union. The main thing is that under the British constitution there is the concept of Parliamentary Sovereignty. To quote the constitutional historian Stanley B Chrimes, "No Act of Parliament can be unconstitutional, for the law of the land knows not the word or the idea." So yeah, it's not relevant. No previous parliament can tie the current parliaments hands: the fixed terms parliament act makes it hard to call snap elections, but all you need to overturn that is a majority of one supporting a new law to say that the government can call an election whenever they fancy. Technically parliament could decide to just make it law that they sit forever without more elections, as I understand it.
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V. Illych L. posted:the soviet constitution, hilariously, was really good and a lot of opposition made themselves obnoxious for campaigning in favour of enforcement of the constitution For real, the Soviet constitution of 1936 is great. "To every Union Republic is reserved the right freely to secede from the U.S.S.R." All of Chapter 10 on fundamental rights & 11 on the electoral system.
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Chinese Gordon posted:Lexit is loving idiotic. Socialism In One Country is an absurd fantasy given the current globalised economic system. A far better and more realistic project would be to remain in and form a socialist bloc to move the EU in the right direction. That's a great fantasy but who is going to be in that socialist bloc? Britain, Greece & Portugal, slightly outweighed by everyone else being either liberals of various shades or fash. Reforming the EU "in the right direction" is about as likely as reforming the Tories in the right direction.
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Undead Hippo posted:The socialist bloc is going to be the three currently existing socialist groupings in European parliament? Socialists and Progressives (Melty socialists), Greens-EFA (Green party) and GUE-NGL (Left socialists+communists). Together those three make up a little over a third of the European parliament. Labour is a big part of the Socialists and Progressives group, which is the second largest group in the parliament and a current part of the ruling coalition. Wait, really, you're putting faith in the loving S&D? They are social democrats, and mostly at this point the sort of third way social democrats who have seen their share of the vote collapse completely in the last decade. Who, as you say yourself, currently are in the governing coalition with the conservatives & the liberals. Great socialist bonafides there. Even putting aside their lack of ideology for a moment, let's reappraise the mighty power of that bloc after May 26th, considering the SPD were at 27% in 2014 and currently polling at 18%, the Partito Democratico won 40% in 2014 & are sitting in the polls at 21% now, and that's your 2 largest parties in the S&D. Next biggest is UK Labour, then the Romanian PSD who won 37.6% last time and are polling at 26.5% as of March 20th. PSOE's share in Spain is stable 23% 5 years ago & 23% now, French PS are down from a pitiful 14% to 3%. Portugal's PS are from 31% to 34%. Can't find polling numbers for Austria or Poland but you get the general trends across most of Europe. I'm not even arguing for Lexit. The arguments against Brexit are stronger than the political arguments for it at the end of the day. But kidding on that there's much loving chance of reforming the EU is self-delusion.
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Newport West by-election is on the go today. Which is an excuse to post this fun parody of a parody of that New York State of Mind song from years back. Because Goldie Lookin' Chain were probably the greatest export from Newport. Anyway, been a Labour seat since 1987, Labour's candidate is a physiotherapist, the Tory candidate used to be Mayor of Newport & the UKIP candidate is loving Neil Hamilton. Flynn won by 5000 in 2017 and you'd hope that majority could be maintained but it could be closer?
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