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The Perfect Element posted:Is this why he's on VAR for the Liverpool match? I know their kind all look alike, but they're different people.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 01:44 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 12:59 |
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I like Dele Alli. He seems to be living his best life. Speaking of Everton, I wonder if the other clubs staring down relegation are going to start suing. Their finances are pretty suspect. This piece goes into more detail. https://www.goodisonnews.com/2022/04/04/everton-could-face-court-battles-if-they-stay-in-premier-league-after-expert-view-on-sunday/ quote:If it is subsequently found, this season or next, that the club has made too many allowances for themselves by claiming a huge number was due to Covid, there may be trouble ahead. Here's a link to the Esk, who I think is respected in Everton fan circles, doing a deep dive into Everton's recent financial disclosures: https://theesk.org/2022/04/02/a-deeper-delve-into-evertons-2020-21-accounts-new-100-million-shareholder-loan-plus-the-covid-impact/ Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 14:03 on Apr 6, 2022 |
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Mickolution posted:https://www.theguardian.com/football/2022/apr/05/frank-lampard-says-schedule-could-harm-evertons-survival-prospects As funny as Everton getting relegated might be, Burnley can't score and Watford seem to have too much ground to catch up on. Norwich are doomed and seem resigned to it. I think Everton will squeak this out. Not sure what is in store for them next season, though.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 15:31 |
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That assumes Burnley are going to win and I don't think they're going to win. At worst, they draw, since Burnley really just don't seem to be able to score goals. Lampard has flaws, but I think he's at least roused enough fan positivity (which I think has been a major issue for Everton since Moyes' departure) to ride this out.
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 16:27 |
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smiling giraffe posted:the most talented English footballer of your generation I know there are reasons to rate Le Tissier, but isn't this a bit much?
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# ¿ Apr 6, 2022 20:48 |
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TheRat posted:https://twitter.com/derWinterbach/status/1512042924065894407 A lot of online City fans in the replies to that tweet are treating the time-barring of the UEFA charges to be the equivalent of exoneration. That’s very annoying.
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# ¿ Apr 7, 2022 17:43 |
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Jexner posted:Good god i can't wait for Klopp to knock Pep out of three competitions. That would be nice, but the odds aren't in favor of nice things happening.
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# ¿ Apr 8, 2022 13:34 |
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pik_d posted:Thank you OP, it does make a lot more sense than having something out for City tbf. After all who would dislike Manchester City?? Me, the editor of Der Spiegel!!!
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2022 04:33 |
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That has to be Everton safe now. Don’t know how either Burnley or Watford make up enough ground to put them in real trouble.
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# ¿ Apr 9, 2022 14:48 |
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the sex ghost posted:Says more about Manchester tbh. Leeds coat of arms is some owls and a sheep, beloved by all Owls are nocturnal predators. Problematic!
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# ¿ Apr 12, 2022 13:08 |
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https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/61029757 I thought this BBC piece on Ten Hag was a nice, balanced take on what he could bring and the problems he could have. He seems young, full of energy and plays an attacking style. I can think of many obviously worse choices. What I would "worry" about is that Man-U may be leaning on any new manager to fix issues that can only be fixed by a major reconfiguring of other parts of the club (like scouting/recruitment/transfer negotiations). Ferguson and Wenger were the last of the old school manager who could run everything as a single person and it doesn't look to me, from my ABU eyes, that Man-U has moved enough beyond that old way of doing things.
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# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 00:36 |
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NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:It's not that United haven't moved beyond Ferguson's way of doing things, it's that they've put absolute incompetents into the positions that handle those various things. That's a fair point, but it takes time to find the right people. Minor improvements in structure and personnel help, but they might not be enough. I know the "Man-U are 90s-00s Liverpool right now," hot take is overdone, but it took a long time for Liverpool to get the necessary people on board. It wasn't like the wrong things were being done or certain people were totally out of their depth, but it didn't gel or people otherwise weren't quite good enough. To be quite honest, I'm wondering how good certain people are looking right now because Klopp is Klopp and I'm sure something will go tits up after he leaves. I guess I'm just curious how long it takes for Arnold to find all the right people. Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 02:16 on Apr 13, 2022 |
# ¿ Apr 13, 2022 02:10 |
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sassassin posted:There's no way Burnley get promoted playing Dycheball, so it's a free hit to get rid of him. Didn't they do that twice? I think this is down to the owners - who used an LBO setup to buy the club and are now caught in a situation they are completely unequipped for - being desperate for any kind of new manager bounce to keep them in the league. Things could get ugly for Burnley since the current owners seem unable to provide extra funding of their own.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 14:39 |
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an_mutt posted:me, being a huge superstitious weirdo, cannot help but recognise a 'Liverpool eating poo poo in all these campaigns' pattern to those first 3 seasons lol Thanks. I was in danger of feeling okay about the season. At least Liverpool have already won a trophy this season? And, Liverpool have eaten poo poo in plenty of other season too.
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# ¿ Apr 15, 2022 14:46 |
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the sex ghost posted:Mate of mine has a kyrgiakos liverpool shirt that he paid full price for. Was so sure he was going to be van dijk before van dijk At least Kyrgiakos had some good moments. I'm sure paying full price for a replica of a cult hero's kit is probably not what he intended, but it could have been worse. Lots of fans were pretty angst-ridden about what to do with their Torres jerseys.
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# ¿ Apr 18, 2022 14:28 |
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I know internet fans are not representative of entire fanbases, but there's a lot of Man-U fan hatred for Maguire right now. I don't think he has a choice but to try to play his way out of it or otherwise outlast it, but as guy who played CB with somewhat similar limitations, I feel bad for the guy. It's not like United can sell him to someone at this stage without sustaining a financial loss that I don't think they're willing to take. And it's not like he's the only bad player, but looking at his Twitter, he does seem to have some pretty tone-deaf PR managers/coaches right now. And as far as criticizing Rangnick for the line-up, I believe he was constricted by injuries. I'm not sure if anyone could have put out a much better line-up and I'm sure he wasn't counting on Pogba not being able to last past the first half.
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 15:56 |
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CyberPingu posted:I mean apparently Eric Bailly was healthy so not sure why he wasnt starting. He has pace, but as TheRat said, I think people overrate Bailly because of his absence. I can understand not putting faith in the guy when he can barely stay fit. Ideally, Liverpool/Man-U is not the match where you chuck in a guy who doesn't have match fitness. TheRat, Ninpo and Others: what do think of Rangnick?
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 16:25 |
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CyberPingu posted:Utd will remain poo poo until the Glazers gently caress off and stop draining the club dry I shudder to think how horrible transfer fees would be right now if Man-U wasn't restrained by the Glazers' self-dealing. I admit numbers are useless without context, but over the past 10 years, Man-U have had a higher net spend than PSG or City. https://www.si.com/fannation/soccer/futbol/news/man-utd-city-and-psg-spend-over-1b-net-on-transfers-in-10-years And that's just fees. I'm sure the numbers get even more mind-melting when you account for wages (although it's unlikely anyone can fully account for City's or PSG's off-books shenanigans).
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# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 16:42 |
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jesus WEP posted:moyesy could and should make rashford great again imo I want a red MRGA hat. In all seriousness though, I'm not sure what has happened to Rashford. I still think there's a really good player there. The situation with all the other parts of that club is certainly not helping. Eric Cantonese fucked around with this message at 19:30 on Apr 20, 2022 |
# ¿ Apr 20, 2022 19:27 |
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an_mutt posted:He should* get a minimum of 2 summers/3 transfer windows, which is actually enough time to recruit all of this. If they give him enough time and control to navigate his first 12-18 months in charge then he should be able to make a lot of progress and start challenging at the top again. 2-3 windows sounds optimistic to me. Those would have to be perfect windows and even the most successful club regimes have some underperforming acquisitions, if not outright stinkers. Then again, who knows? They're really not that far off from 4th place and given how a good Bruno Fernandes revitalized them the last time by himself, maybe one or two people who can raise the playing standard and morale could work wonders. I guess this would be like Suarez and Sturridge turning Rodgers' 2013-2014 Liverpool side into title challengers. My experience though is that big windows where people are getting more than 3 new incoming players tend to turn into damp squibs. It's better to be patient even if the lack of incomings drive fans nuts. sourdough posted:Absolute weapon sounds like a badass compliment lol Like a great thrash band from the 80s. ABSOLUTE W E A P O N Available at record stores everywhere!!!
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2022 19:49 |
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TheRat posted:Did he piss on a swiss street or something? this seems personal I believe Oilwan hates Ajax and everyone and everything to do with Ajax.
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# ¿ Apr 21, 2022 20:29 |
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fat gay nonce posted:Just a tip his name rhymes with fag Ten Hagner.
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# ¿ Apr 22, 2022 20:53 |
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the sex ghost posted:Frank actually won that derby, by a lot!! Crooked PGMOL and the failing premier league are conspiring to keep talented managers down and promote critical richarlison theory to young football fans Can someone please rename me Critical Richarlison Theory? vyelkin posted:also theoretically VAR is supposed to be to correct clear and obvious errors by the live ref and for once it actually worked the way it was supposed to in giving the benefit of the doubt to the ref's initial decision instead of poring over pixels for ten minutes to decide if this time there was actually a tiny bit of contact when the player went flying after feeling the slightest breeze I do wonder if a big part of VAR angst is because the league hasn't explained very clearly to fans what it supposed to do and what it isn't. It's also counterintuitive that one "clear and obvious error" standard applies to most on-field calls, but then you get another "offside is offside no matter what, let's draw some lines on the screen" standard. Don't most other leagues leave all decisions as "clear and obvious" error ones? jesus WEP posted:were everton in actual relegation danger when rafa was in charge? i can’t remember where they were exactly but it feels like they were like 13th and just having a disappointing season rather than being proper hosed I think they had hit a horrific patch of form so fans were right to be concerned about relegation. Benitez was doomed. Everton needed fan positivity and strong morale and instead Moshiri went with a guy that the fans were never going to be patient with.
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2022 16:21 |
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The first day of training, Benitez was already undermining Everton by calling Lucas Digne “Puke-rear end Dung.”
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# ¿ Apr 25, 2022 17:21 |
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Didn’t Newcastle recently poach a widely-praised recruitment director from Brighton or something like that? I think their going to be less ridiculous with their purchases than we expect.
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# ¿ Apr 27, 2022 17:38 |
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Just leave already. Wonderboy’s dad is such a whiner.
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# ¿ May 1, 2022 21:21 |
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TheRat posted:Pulisic just isn't anywhere good enough. International football is a lot slower/lower level than any top league/champions league is. Shhh. Let us Americans live in our reality bubble. There's a difference between being right and being nice.
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# ¿ May 2, 2022 14:26 |
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bewbies posted:good enough to what? he's been good and productive in the prem and would have at least a squad role on any team in the league. he's not going to win any world player of the year awards and he isn't worth what they paid for him but he's not completely out of his depth I think TheRat's actual point is that Pulisic is not as good as American fans complaining about Chelsea's treatment of him believe him to be. I think we all agree that it's not obvious that Pulisic "deserves" more playing time than Tuchel is currently giving him.
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# ¿ May 2, 2022 15:10 |
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Starsnostars posted:That feels like when Liverpool fans told me Minamino would do a job for Southampton when they loaned him to us. Pulisic has been more productive for Chelsea than Minamino has been for Liverpool. I hate to admit it, but he's a better fit for the league than Taki is.
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# ¿ May 3, 2022 02:29 |
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jesus WEP posted:”you can’t buy the club unless you have the money for it” seems like it would be not that hard to enforce but im just a simple lad who doesn’t know very much about big business TheRat posted:Nah you see leveraged buyouts are actually very good, because LBOs are a scourge that should have disappeared with the 1980s, but western business practices are so tied around tactical use of debt that I don't think you could ever eradicate from business as a whole. It's really not good for any European soccer club though.
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# ¿ May 4, 2022 14:37 |
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sassassin posted:We had around £60m falling due within 3 year when we went down (all future payments for poo poo players we'd bought, not financial funny business from our American owners). It's survivable if you sell everything not nailed down that first summer and have £40m worth of academy players ready to go. You seemed to be run so well and then hit some massive wall. Was that on Laudrup or some board personnel switch?
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# ¿ May 4, 2022 22:54 |
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sourdough posted:Him scoring 100 goals in a season and city still not winning the champions league would be funny, and him utterly failing would also be funny, so I'm excited What if he scores a ton of goals and wins everything, though? I hope you'll still be chuckling. NinpoEspiritoSanto posted:Seems unwise signing a striker with one leg shorter than the other Is that why he didn't want Dortmund talking about his injuries?
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# ¿ May 10, 2022 16:31 |
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Xabi posted:Manchester City is one of the top commercial brands in the world so this definitely doesn’t break any FFP rules. Also, the CAS case proved that they don’t cook the books. When you get caught for something after the statute of limitations has run out, it means you never did it.
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# ¿ May 10, 2022 16:55 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:How many of these massive deals have been successful because of the top 10 highest transfers you could argue Lukaku, pogba, greaseman, dembele and bale have all been relative flops According to Wikipedia... 1 Neymar - Barcelona to Paris Saint-Germain 2 Kylian Mbappé - Monaco to Paris Saint-Germain 3 Philippe Coutinho - Liverpool to Barcelona 4 João Félix - Benfica to Atlético Madrid 5 Antoine Griezmann - Atlético Madrid to Barcelona 6 Jack Grealish - Aston Villa to Manchester City 7 Romelu Lukaku - Inter Milan to Chelsea 8 Ousmane Dembélé - Borussia Dortmund to Barcelona 9 Paul Pogba - Juventus to Manchester United 10 Eden Hazard - Chelsea to Real Madrid 11 Cristiano Ronaldo - Real Madrid to Juventus 12 Gareth Bale - Tottenham Hotspur to Real Madrid 13 Cristiano Ronaldo - Manchester United to Real Madrid 14 Gonzalo Higuaín - Napoli to Juventus 15 Harry Maguire - Leicester City to Manchester United 16 Romelu Lukaku - Everton to Manchester United 17 Jadon Sancho - Borussia Dortmund to Manchester United 18 Virgil van Dijk - Southampton to Liverpool 19 Kai Havertz - Bayer Leverkusen to Chelsea 20 Luis Suárez - Liverpool to Barcelona The rest of the list is here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_most_expensive_association_football_transfers Most of these were not the big fortune-changing moves that the buying clubs anticipated. I think Bale was a good buy for Real Madrid even if they wish they could get rid of him now. The guy helped them win a lot of silverware. Ronaldo was also a good buy for Madrid. Suarez was worth the money for Barca in my eyes. Felix didn't ask for that fee. I'm still surprised that Atletico put that much out there for him given how Simeone plays. The jury's still out on him. I think the jury's still out on Sancho too. Havertz has been pretty good for Chelsea, right?
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# ¿ May 10, 2022 18:26 |
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I had a joke about how Halaand under Pep could go as well as Ibrahimovic at Barca, but then I remembered that Barca still won a ton of stuff that year. This blows.
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# ¿ May 11, 2022 01:16 |
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pik_d posted:This is peak Pep, he's ready to play Haaland in the midfield already https://twitter.com/Jack_Gaughan/status/1524509389700358147?t=ZCKhUQy6i09RNZYw2clCrw&s=19 I know we love to joke about Pep overthinking things, but I'm sure this is more about getting Haaland to improve in his contribution to build-up play, which every striker could stand to do.
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# ¿ May 12, 2022 00:20 |
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:Finally! Several of you will be hearing from my lawyers for historical abuse I have received about my lack of hair. I thought it was the hair that you have that was the cause of the teasing.
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# ¿ May 12, 2022 13:58 |
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Pep's milkshake brings all the boys to the yard to ping triangles around the opposition and win.
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# ¿ May 12, 2022 14:27 |
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Frankston posted:Coutinho has signed a permanent contract until 2026 with Villa I don't like Liverpool having to play against him, but the guy is good and should be playing regularly in front of fans who like him. That's a good move for Villa.
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# ¿ May 12, 2022 20:47 |
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# ¿ May 18, 2024 12:59 |
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They have been very different under Conte, though.
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# ¿ May 21, 2022 14:04 |