Perplx posted:they use the lower power ram to have 30 day standby time, if they used regular ram it would less than 7 days maybe instead of keeping everything in RAM for weeks at a time they could suspend to the 3GBps ssd and power down the DRAM. nobody is going to open their computer after not using it for seven days and go "this is unacceptable!!" when it takes a second to wake. gently caress do some Apple it just works magic with Bluetooth proximity or vibration detection or something.
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Binary Badger posted:phil schiller constantly cites power usage as the reason they don't go to 32 GB, he keeps saying they couldn't keep offering the ten hours or whatever battery life with the amount of power LPDDR4 currently requires gently caress this garbage, if i want 32 GB of RAM on my laptop it's because i'm using it plugged in most of the time as a desktop replacement, and i'm willing to take the drat battery life hit
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# ? Apr 25, 2018 23:21 |
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Shifty Pony posted:maybe instead of keeping everything in RAM for weeks at a time they could suspend to the 3GBps ssd and power down the DRAM. nobody is going to open their computer after not using it for seven days and go "this is unacceptable!!" when it takes a second to wake. “as an engineer I understand why my computer sometimes wakes up quickly and sometimes wakes up slowly so it’s fine” is not an argument that works on Apple product managers. iPads don’t have this issue, why should laptops? I’ll leave it as an exercise to the reader to identify the problem and how Apple will fix it
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# ? Apr 25, 2018 23:23 |
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because ipads and laptops are different, if they were the same you wouldn't have two product lines
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# ? Apr 25, 2018 23:27 |
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Shaggar posted:yeah id rather have more + faster ram than a computer I don't use for 30 days. give me the option, tim
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# ? Apr 25, 2018 23:41 |
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The Management posted:“as an engineer I understand why my computer sometimes wakes up quickly and sometimes wakes up slowly so it’s fine” is not an argument that works on Apple product managers. The problem: lovely PMs The fix: WontFix
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# ? Apr 25, 2018 23:49 |
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solution: stop selling laptops boom. i mean the ipad pro exists for a reason, right?
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:01 |
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solution: bring back the 17" macbook pro & make it the 32 gb ram option
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:12 |
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akadajet posted:
you can't have it as an option because it would require models with different cpu/chipset/whateverthatshitiscalledthesedays and different ram and that means less economy of scale for apple and there's just no way they could possibly handle $800 of pure profit per unit sold instead of $1000
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:12 |
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DELETE CASCADE posted:because ipads and laptops are different, if they were the same you wouldn't have two product lines give them a few more years and this won't be a concern anymore
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:13 |
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oh i get it, the keyboard is intentionally bad to get us ready for the future of no keyboard at all here's your ipad have fun loser
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:15 |
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the problem with passive drain isn't your laptop going from 100% to 72% in 2 days, it's going from 10% to 1% if you leave it unplugged overnight also lol @ siri
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:15 |
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my hp elitesomething work laptop takes longer to wake up from "hibernate" than it does to cold boot from power off
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:18 |
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qirex posted:going from 100% to 72% in 2 days, don’t use chrome
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:19 |
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if you leave your laptop unplugged and in ram-using sleep mode (ie not hibernate to disk) for long periods then you are an idiot are you gonna complain if you leave your car battery on overnight and it drains even though you weren't "doing anything" with the car especially when the solution is so simple: don't be a moron and do the thing you are supposed to do with the thing
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:19 |
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qirex posted:my hp elitesomething work laptop takes longer to wake up from "hibernate" than it does to cold boot from power off hp makes bad computers, news at 11
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:19 |
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love too janitor S-states instead of just closing the lid
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 00:24 |
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JawnV6 posted:love too janitor S-states instead of just closing the lid // hope nothing was running in an isr! __wfe();
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 01:09 |
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The Management posted:“as an engineer I understand why my computer sometimes wakes up quickly and sometimes wakes up slowly so it’s fine” is not an argument that works on Apple product managers. NOFIX: slow tiny ram working as intended.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 01:14 |
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The Management posted:as an engineer I understand why my computer sometimes wakes up quickly and sometimes wakes up slowly so its fine is not an argument that works on Apple product managers. i know this is bullshit because half of the time a macbook won't want to wake up at all. it will just reboot when i open it for the first time of a given day akadajet fucked around with this message at 01:19 on Apr 26, 2018 |
# ? Apr 26, 2018 01:17 |
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akadajet posted:i know this is bullshit because half of the time a macbook won't want to wake up at all. it will just reboot when i open it for the first time of a given day what wacky stuff is it running that it does that??? even my work laptop doesnt do that, and its running some terrible symantec garbage its also one of the last 2015 macbook pros we bought so i avoided the keyboard and usb 2017 models our other team members got so win win
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:33 |
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they made me swap my 2014 to a 2015 with the team change, so i guess i got the haptic trackpad, but honestly who cares, its still a good laptop when the other option isinfernal machines posted:hp makes bad computers, news at 11
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:34 |
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bronin posted:I’ve had this happen from time to time. like once a month or once every 3 months or whatever. No real culprit app wise but the battery drains down a lot faster than normal. you can usually spot it when use time is more or less the same as standby time. A reboot fixes it every time. that's why every morning you should - go into app store, make sure all the apps are updated for the day - kill all background/frozen apps with the long hold on the X and swipe up motion - go into settings/icloud/backup and run a backup - wait till the backup is complete, turn off wifi manually in settings because control center is garbage - swipe away settings - shutdown the iphone x by holding the lock button and volume up and swipe to turn off - fresh boot never had any battery problems with any iphones with the fresh boot method every morning especially with the background app disabled completely
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:43 |
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coke posted:that's why every morning you should lol
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:47 |
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the android experience, for iPhone
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:55 |
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Gotta janitor that phones background apps loving up what is this, android now?
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 03:56 |
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coke posted:that's why every morning you should source your quotes
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coke posted:that's why every morning you should jfc
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 04:19 |
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i love this thred
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 04:20 |
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Agile Vector posted:what wacky stuff is it running that it does that??? even my work laptop doesnt do that, and its running some terrible symantec garbage nothing special? my last 3 work macbooks all had weird issues about waking from sleep after being left alone for a day or more
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 04:23 |
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holy poo poo this postcode:
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this is not how multitasking works. Apps are very aggressively suspended/closed unless they go 'hey I need to finish this upload' and either hand that process off to the OS or they get a limited amount of time, and they might be killed anyways. Plus apps can spin up in the background from pushes or background app refresh. Force quitting things in springboard does not affect this and the only thing you're doing is closing any saved app state out of memory, so the next time it opens, it takes more energy. good job. code:
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 05:11 |
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EVERY MORNING I OPEN PALM SWIPE THE SCREEN OF MY X. ITS TIME TO FRESH BOOT AND RIGHT THEN AND THERE I START FORCE CLOSING APPS. MAKING WOOSHING SOUNDS WHEN I SWIPE UP SOME BATTERY DRAINERS OR EVEN WHEN I sorry thats as far as i got
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 05:16 |
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Jimmy Carter posted:holy poo poo this post have your iphone x plugged in already and fully charged when you go through every step unplug only after the last step of fresh reboot with passcode entered and everything, if you unplug before the phone is booted, the battery meter doesn't seem to calibrate properly and wont know how long you have been on battery power also get a good 5 volt / 500 mA USB charger to make sure you dont end up fast charging your battery with high current for nothing since you are most likely leaving it plugged in overnight anyway and ends with float charging, which might degrade the battery faster
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 05:30 |
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coke posted:oh yeah those are a given thank you for this interesting and informative post
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 05:48 |
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are these posts parodies of something. i am so confused
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 07:10 |
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Linguica posted:are these posts parodies of something. i am so confused I hope/bet they are. I recently saw that my coworker swiped every app closed whenever she was done with whatever she was doing with her iPhone. I explained in quite some detail that that’s not necessary unless an app misbehaves and that it might even cost more energy. She understood and changed her behavior. My Dad on the other hand... He told me his IT guy at work who gave him is work phone told him to close all apps regularly bronin fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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bronin posted:I hope/bet they are. I recently saw that my coworker swiped every app closed whenever she was done with whatever she was doing with her iPhone. I explained in quite some detail that that’s not necessary unless an app misbehaves and that it might even cost more energy. She understood and changed her behavior. how would you notice something like that?
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 08:27 |
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Wheany posted:how would you notice something like that? battery drains faster than normal, phone gets warm. Or really obvious an app hangs completely.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 08:30 |
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a simple normal shutdown and power on every few days is all the preventative medicine you need. lol at that rain dance someone posted earlier.
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# ? Apr 26, 2018 08:45 |
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may the computer gods grant battery life and performance with the cleansing ritual *burns sage, lights candles to Steve icon, toggles settings, closes apps, restarts phone, utters a solemn prayer, blows out*
OldAlias fucked around with this message at 09:06 on Apr 26, 2018 |
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