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The easiest way to retcon the BoS into being is simply state that the BoS name itself was a pre war designation for the Power Armor corps, and Maxim believing his group to be the only real military survivors co-opted the name for themselves. On top of that it probably wouldn’t be too hard to convince random other military groups that bunkered up after the fact to at least quasi agree to align themselves with your own organization. The traitor thing would likely be a non issue as in the best of days the military views themselves as being hosed over by the government at large and lol look ma, those idiots actually went and destroyed the world.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 20:55 |
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Sheen Sheen posted:The BoS being in this game is dumb. Almost everything about this game seems dumb, so why not!
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 21:54 |
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2house2fly posted:Almost everything about this game seems dumb, so why not! I mean, based on what I’ve seen it might actually be pretty low on the list of bad things about the game, so really, whatevs
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:04 |
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The problem with BoS is not BoS. The problem is exploiting characters and names for nostalgia sake, instead of inventing something new. https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/commentators/terence-blacker/this-naked-exploitation-of-nostalgia-544352.html https://onlycametoseeeboue.wordpress.com/2015/04/23/hypocritical-rant-on-nostalgia-exploitation-in-film-tv-culture/ Soon we will have "Pretty Women 2: My wife was a whore" and "Gladiator 2: Why I am even alive" and "Bee Movie 2: Ghostbusters".
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:13 |
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I have a question. I vaguely remember reading in a magazine before New Vegas came out that the plot was going to be about a large cache of energy weapons and the fights between the factions for control of it, and that it would be mostly ballistic until this plot point was resolved. Was this actually the case or did I fever dream this?
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:20 |
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Tei posted:Soon we will have "Pretty Women 2: My wife was a whore" and "Gladiator 2: Why I am even alive" and "Bee Movie 2: Ghostbusters". I'd watch all of those.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:43 |
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I have a question. I vaguely remember reading in a magazine before New Vegas came out that the plot was going to be about a large cache of energy weapons and the fights between the factions for control of it, and that it would be mostly ballistic until this plot point was resolved. Was this actually the case or did I fever dream this? No clue but in Vegas Energy Weapons are harder to come by because the Silver Rush holds a monopoly on them and the Brotherhood attacks anyone they see carrying them.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:45 |
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This is a weird tweet. I'd almost say purposefully misleading.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 22:54 |
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Endymion FRS MK1 posted:I have a question. I vaguely remember reading in a magazine before New Vegas came out that the plot was going to be about a large cache of energy weapons and the fights between the factions for control of it, and that it would be mostly ballistic until this plot point was resolved. Was this actually the case or did I fever dream this? There was the whole thing with everyone fighting over that power plant that was secretly a space laser weapon.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 23:06 |
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Vinylshadow posted:So there are human NPCs, but they're conveniently out of reach or dead by the time you meet them Well, if others players could reach them, they would probably be dead before you meet them.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 23:15 |
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Moose-Alini posted:There was the whole thing with everyone fighting over that power plant that was secretly a space laser weapon. With the exception of Elijah, without realizing what it really is.
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 23:18 |
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Moose-Alini posted:There was the whole thing with everyone fighting over that power plant that was secretly a space laser weapon. Nah this was actually part of the main plot that the Courier took part in. It was in like an EGM preview or something. It's entirely possible I'm misremembering it
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 23:30 |
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oh, you hired me to fix the powerplant? Whoops i sent all the power to freeside and broke the controls
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# ? Oct 18, 2018 23:36 |
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Clawtopsy posted:oh, you hired me to fix the powerplant? Whoops i sent all the power to freeside and broke the controls Eh, they can blame it on Mr Fantastic's theoretical degree. Besides, giving the power to everyone is smarter because I don't trust NCR. Brownouts are an issue but it's a contingency measure for the local region if Hoover Dam gets overrun. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 00:01 on Oct 19, 2018 |
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what, exactly, is the F76 gameplay? all I've gathered so far is that you scavenge parts to build camps and occasionally shoot or nuke other players on small (<10) player servers? what is the point? are they trying to do ultima online without the massively multiplayer and persistent world part? fortnite without the dedicated game round parts? a multiplayer RPG without the npcs or story? are the graphics any better than FO4?
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 00:13 |
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pmchem posted:what, exactly, is the F76 gameplay? Load FO4.exe. Run a script to kill all NPCs that have dialogue. Now add a Nexus mod for janky multiplayer. Voila, FO76! (Original idea for FO76 demo CD, please don't steal)
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 00:27 |
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WebDO posted:Load FO4.exe. Run a script to kill all NPCs that have dialogue. Now add a Nexus mod for janky multiplayer. Voila, FO76! (Original idea for FO76 demo CD, please don't steal) if this is for real the best analogy I'm not touching the game in a million years, but surely, they must have put a lot of dev hours into the game, what did they do?
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 00:31 |
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I’d probably gently caress around a bit for $30 but full priced is crazy.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 00:50 |
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pmchem posted:surely, they must have put a lot of dev hours into the game They almost certainly did not
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:01 |
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pmchem posted:what, exactly, is the F76 gameplay? Modern fallout gameplay with base building, survival mechanics, and MP. There is a story and non-human npcs. Add in event quests and boss monsters like destiny. The graphics are a maybe better than F4. Some parts look better others seem worse.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:03 |
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pmchem posted:if this is for real the best analogy I'm not touching the game in a million years, but surely, they must have put a lot of dev hours into the game, what did they do? SPECIAL overhaul, and what seems like a whole bunch of new assets.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:06 |
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there is also at least one (1) dedicated PvP rounds thing, there's a radio station you can tune into that puts you in a "everybody has to randomly assassinate one other person hearing this" gimmick I'm not optimistic but the game does have some things going on besides "run around and scrap things"
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:08 |
Eiba posted:Perhaps Maxon knew someone based in West Virginia, and they respected him and had authority over others. Nah, Bethesda should be destroyed because they suck at RPGs.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:25 |
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pmchem posted:what, exactly, is the F76 gameplay? Well, No NPC's, so you will get all the quest from prerecorded records. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z74qX566G3Y&t=199s I believe all the artist are colorblind. Not normal people with healty eyes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCQE1U2EQ_4 Is taking inspiration from games like wow and abandoning the fallout roots in some key elements. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOUoE8tw6wQ I am going to buy it, but seems a budget product they are making to finance other developments.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:26 |
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Lunatic Sledge posted:there is also at least one (1) dedicated PvP rounds thing, there's a radio station you can tune into that puts you in a "everybody has to randomly assassinate one other person hearing this" gimmick
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 01:56 |
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pmchem posted:if this is for real the best analogy I'm not touching the game in a million years, but surely, they must have put a lot of dev hours into the game, what did they do? they have up to a dozen emotes that are an animated pip boy so if you love the pip boy and his ne'er-do-well impishness, it has a lot to explore
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 02:01 |
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Moose-Alini posted:I’d probably gently caress around a bit for $30 but full priced is crazy. I don't hate the game really, I hate that Bethesda is treating it like a full $60 dollar game with exclusive pre-orders and a closed beta and poo poo, and not marketing it as the $15 or $20 dollar "hey here's Fallout 4 multiplayer edition" game it really is. Me laughing at the multitude of bugs is both a comedy bonus and further confirmation of Bethesda's half-assing. If they'd been serious about making this game playable and less glitchy than usual then the beta would have started back in like July or August, rather than "hey there's a beta two weeks before launch, and only if you
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 02:31 |
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I think maybe I feel more inclined to pay for 76 because I didn't dish out the full sixty for Fallout 4 like, I redboxed 4, and watching 76 footage I'm like "ehhh it looks about the same but multiplayer," but if I had paid full price for 4 I wouldn't even be humoring the beta of 76 people are treating "go find the old overseer, maybe some poo poo happens after that" as being zero story, but I felt that way about "go find your son, maybe some poo poo happens along the way" too
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 03:07 |
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I think maybe I feel more inclined to pay for 76 because I didn't dish out the full sixty for Fallout 4
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 03:13 |
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Lunatic Sledge posted:I think maybe I feel more inclined to pay for 76 because I didn't dish out the full sixty for Fallout 4 how long did you keep it? seems like a poor sort of game to rent.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 03:18 |
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Rinkles posted:how long did you keep it? seems like a poor sort of game to rent. my job situation at the time was what one might call shaky, so I got like a week straight of gameplay out of it I was ridiculously into it at first, but my wait for FO4 to really take off and reach that potential I was seeing never really got there and I steadily realized that perks didn't affect the story / options like they used to and that base building wasn't as cool as I thought it was going to be and that there were way, way more places without stories to them than I remembered in New Vegas and that the replicant stuff wasn't going to go anywhere as shocking as I imagined most of the companions sucked ...and then radial quests with everything streamlined and standardized like it was, I felt like Fallout 4 should have had multiplayer in the first place. Now I'm getting what pretty much looks like Fallout 4 to me (but with multiplayer), so... meh. Also the more I think about it, the more I suspect most of my favorite NPCs in Fallout 4 were robots anyway, so while I still don't feel like 76 is going to be good, I think I might at least find it fun.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 03:27 |
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Lunatic Sledge posted:my job situation at the time was what one might call shaky, so I got like a week straight of gameplay out of it KL-E-0 is by far the best NPC in FO4. I wish you could interact with her more than you do.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 04:35 |
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You can have her as a companion if you make a robot and assign it the Assaultron voice.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 04:39 |
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Eiba posted:Perhaps Maxon knew someone based in West Virginia, and they respected him and had authority over others. It's also a huge loving missed chance to bring in something Cool and Good and New instead of shoehorning the BoS in again in a way that requires a full-on break with their backstory. It's lazy as hell, which is one of Bethesda's besetting sins.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 06:41 |
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Could have just as easily been some army holdouts who decided to go full on police state fascists. And don't say Enclave because they're specifically 1%ers and the government out to kill all the poors. The regular us military means nothing to the Enclave.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 06:49 |
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Clawtopsy posted:oh, you hired me to fix the powerplant? Whoops i sent all the power to freeside and broke the controls Oh gently caress! Who could have ever foresaw that allowing a random vagabond with no credentials to have total control over our highly important military project could possibly backfire!? Tei posted:I am over-exposed to vault boy, to a point I am starting to despite him. ....MotherFUCKER! House is doing the Dreamworks eyebrow. I can't believe I never noticed it before. That smug son of a bitch.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 07:07 |
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Less the 'Pixar Eyebrow' and more just being Vincent Price.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 07:28 |
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Liquid Cannibalism posted:Less the 'Pixar Eyebrow' and more just being Vincent Price. My God this goes all the way to the top.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 07:33 |
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Liquid Cannibalism posted:Less the 'Pixar Eyebrow' and more just being Vincent Price.
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# ? Oct 19, 2018 12:03 |
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Mr House is Howard Hughes? i tought everyone knows that? Also with RDR2, RE2 and hell even Thronebreaker Bethesda really doesnt have a excuse anymore. Janky games with so so stories arent going to cut it anymore
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