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I'm reading Fortress, Buchheim's sequel to Das Boot, and it has an absolutely apocalyptic U-boat journey in it. Apparently the Schnorchel just barely worked, he goes into quite some detail on how miserable it is to use, so that was interesting. He really did something resembling that journey, he's doing the usual throwing together happenings from multiple occasions into one you do when you write autobiographical fiction / tell sea stories and yikes he seems to have had a seriously no bueno 1944. I've been reading a bunch of Untergang-era autobiographical fiction and this is really loving good. I like it quite a bit better than Das Boot actually.
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I think every submariner in the Kriegsmarine had a no bueno 1944
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Sep 18, 2019 16:06
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zoux posted:I think every submariner in the Kriegsmarine had a no bueno 1944 There's two really hosed up scenes where he watches boats go out and he describes the faces of the crews on deck etc.
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Sep 18, 2019 16:14
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I know I'm a day late to this, but happy 75th birthday of market garden, everyone.
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zoux posted:I think every submariner in the Kriegsmarine had a no bueno 1944 Especially those piloting the single occupant submarines, the Neger and Biber, and even more so for those who were test candidates for D-IX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX I think it's been brought up before in the thread but I can't see most test subjects not coming out of this with a drug addiction and heart problems. This is all while doing several day solo missions in hastily designed single occupant subs with torpedoes strapped to the hull.
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Dance Officer posted:I know I'm a day late to this, You and Monty both
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RocknRollaAyatollah posted:Especially those piloting the single occupant submarines, the Neger and Biber, and even more so for those who were test candidates for D-IX. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D-IX A mix of oxycodone, cocaine, and methamphetamine, tested on concentration camp prisoners. It's amazing just how many way the Nazis were terrible.
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Neat/creepy thread on the gas mask as a symbol in pop culture https://twitter.com/PulpLibrarian/status/1174356568747466753  Ho ho kids, does anyone else smell fresh cut grass
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ponzicar posted:A mix of oxycodone, cocaine, and methamphetamine, tested on concentration camp prisoners. It's amazing just how many way the Nazis were terrible. Wolf Kemper posted:the aim was to use Dicks to redefine the limits of human endurance Polyakov posted:I wouldnt say that was really a battle as envisaged. It was certainly decisive but it wasnt really a fleet on fleet engagement as i think was envisaged by people that followed that doctrine.
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See, normally jokes about naval personnel depend on the homophonic relationship of "seamen" and "semen", but in this case you can just say: "Those seamen sure were full of D-IX!" which sort of takes some of the effort out of it? E: I guess you could still add a bit of frisson by saying "Packed with" or "Stuffed full of" to sort of bring to mind a sausage casing? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 17:44 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 17:41
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zoux posted:https://twitter.com/sovietvisuals/status/1174326332018298885?s=21 same
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https://twitter.com/ambientGillian/status/1135329542883696640 Hannibal killing all those elephants crossing the Alps is extremely problematic.
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HEY GUNS posted:When the companies amalgamate into batallions to fight it looks like this. Do you know why this was the practice? Like why are pikeman and musketeers part of the same company if they're just going to separate and agglomerate by role during battle?
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Yes, it's like a lava lamp.
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For me one of the most haunting images from the Atomic Bomb movie is a Chinese cavalryman charging into the atomic wasteland with both him and his horse in MOPP. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9xoHbBkUGSQ&t=189s
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Phanatic posted:For me one of the most haunting images from the Atomic Bomb movie is a Chinese cavalryman charging into the atomic wasteland with both him and his horse in MOPP. Is this Trinity or a movie called Atomic Bomb
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zoux posted:Is this Trinity or a movie called Atomic Bomb Yes. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0114728/ Edit: Sorry, pasted without copying. Phanatic fucked around with this message at 19:48 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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PittTheElder posted:Do you know why this was the practice? Like why are pikeman and musketeers part of the same company if they're just going to separate and agglomerate by role during battle?
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PittTheElder posted:Do you know why this was the practice? Like why are pikeman and musketeers part of the same company if they're just going to separate and agglomerate by role during battle? I'd bet it's because if you have a company with a mix, you can just kind of slap it onto another agglomeration of mans. Basically rather than 6 companies of pike and 5 of shot because the latter's a bit bigger on average, you just throw however many companies it takes together. FrangibleCover posted:The article becomes much less sad when you stop reading "Dee Nine" and start reading "Dicks" Don't forget the Solomons Campaign. Santa Cruz and Eastern Solomon Sea also matter, especially if you count Coral Sea as anything more than a prelude. xthetenth fucked around with this message at 20:21 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 20:18
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Milo and POTUS posted:
Aren't those rifle grenades?  E: I wonder how many times people hosed up and didn't use the blank (or blank-ish?) cartridge when shooting one of those off? I suspect it's not the sort of mistake you're likely to make twice? Schadenboner fucked around with this message at 22:45 on Sep 18, 2019 |
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Sep 18, 2019 22:42
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Milo and POTUS posted:
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Trin Tragula posted:Soldiers, obviously A bayonet is a weapon with a proletarian at each end.
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https://twitter.com/alexdrace/status/1174239857012592640?s=21 So much for the Auld Alliance
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Yea, that looks like rifle grenades by WW1 German soldiers. I don't recall Germany having rifle grenades in WW1 though.
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Sergeant goes along the line on inspection. Comes across one man whose turnout he doesn't approve of. Takes his pace stick and jabs the brass firmly into the offending soldier's chest while offering some strong words of advice. Finishes up by declaring "there is poo poo on the end of my stick, Bloggs". To which Private Bloggs responds, "Yes Sergeant, but not at this end".
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Started scanning, taking pictures of, etc my Grandpa's stuff from WWII. Started with this map him and two friends made on their trek across France and Germany. I'm trying to see if anyone in my area has the ability to actually scan it high res or has a real camera jig to go vertical.
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Dance Officer posted:Yea, that looks like rifle grenades by WW1 German soldiers. I don't recall Germany having rifle grenades in WW1 though. They existed. I mean the conflict modernized mass produced and dedicated doctrines over dudes throwing them so finding a way to shooting them from a rifle doesn't seem at all far fetched.
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Dance Officer posted:Yea, that looks like rifle grenades by WW1 German soldiers. I don't recall Germany having rifle grenades in WW1 though. That's what I figured and also what I thought. That's why I was a little confused
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https://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/item/object/30023657 This looks pretty similar. If I remember right the British used them heavily but their use of them was part of the thought on how to do an offensive, so Germany might not have used nearly as many nor incorporated them as heavily into attacking formations?
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xthetenth posted:Don't forget the Solomons Campaign. Santa Cruz and Eastern Solomon Sea also matter, especially if you count Coral Sea as anything more than a prelude.
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xthetenth posted:I'd bet it's because if you have a company with a mix, you can just kind of slap it onto another agglomeration of mans.
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For reference, my Grandpa is Ed or Edward, last name Yaps, it's not that consistent. Most of these captions are his, or my Grandmas, and are as written. 1 - Johnnie's first leave - October 1942 (johnnie Dreher, Art Ladd & Ed) 2 through 5 - Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 6 - In work clothes at Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 7 - Some fightin' lookin' soldiers? at Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943  1 & 2 - George Stasky at Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 3 - Dunphy - the best time he had was while he was in the Army. - Always happy-go-lucky. At Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 4 & 5 - George Stasky at Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 6 - ? 7 - George at the park in Paris, Texas - March 1943 8 Thomas J. Dlugos - A/B Engs. Carthage, Mo - 1943 9 - ?  1 - Pvt. Howard Meyers at Norman, Oklahoma - Sept 1943 2- Looking down Mt. Scott into the valley. There is a big lake below but it is too far down to be recognized - 1943? 3 - Wichita Mts. Looking West from atop Mt. Scot - 1943? 4 - The other "G.I. Joe" is my sidekick. He is Bill Silvestri and he comes from the Bronx. - 1943? 5 - The bunch in Eddy's group at Camp Maxey, Texas - Jan 1943 6 - George & Million in the sloppy mud of Germany - Nov 1944 7 - Sgt Meachum piling dirt on our dugout in Germany. A hole we'll never forget. - Dec 1944 That's all I had time to scan in today, a bunch more tomorrow I hope. I also have a 10 mark note, his tiny adorable mini honorable discharge paperwork, and a bunch of draft paperwork and board notices which are kinda cool to see. As suggested, I'm crossposting to the milhist thread (and the milpics thread)
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SeanBeansShako posted:They existed. I mean the conflict modernized mass produced and dedicated doctrines over dudes throwing them so finding a way to shooting them from a rifle doesn't seem at all far fetched. Do you have a source? Not that I'm not willing to believe you but a few Google searches aren't giving me results.
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Dance Officer posted:Do you have a source? Not that I'm not willing to believe you but a few Google searches aren't giving me results. For the British Army they used the Hales rifle grenade system.
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Schadenboner posted:Aren't those rifle grenades? Some of the rifle grenade setups actually used a live bullet I believe.
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https://twitter.com/sovietvisuals/status/1174472916999770113 Is the "this guy saved the whole world" stuff you see stories about him oversold
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Taerkar posted:Some of the rifle grenade setups actually used a live bullet I believe. That’s called a bullet-trap rifle grenade. There’s at least one design that had a hollow center and allowed the bullet to exit through the grenade.
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My understanding of the rifle grenade is that they were not super effective or accurate even at like 100m. Also the recoil is brutal, people would dislocate their shoulders on the reg if they weren't holding it right. Truly the first backblast casualties.
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you are not supposed to fire a rifle grenade from the shoulder, what the gently caress? the French V-B had a max range of just about 200 meters when fired from the ground. it was one of the kind that could be fired using ordinary ammunition. they're plenty effective, just not very accurate. designed so that the infantry can bring along their own indirect fire support that can reach out further than you can throw a grenade. not as good as a mortar, of course, but a lot lighter.
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