MD2020 posted:I wonder if the Jets would benefit from a Jeff Fisher/John Fox type coach after Gase. Someone who could come in after the team bottoms out, install a professional culture, and then be replaced by a better coach a few years later when the team is ready to start competing. Worked for the Lions!!
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# ? May 15, 2024 23:10 |
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If you hired gase in the first place your decision making is fair game for questioning. If you keep him on the staff after that cocaine and hallucinogen fueled press conference where his eyes are darting around non stop, you should be shown the door with him.
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# ? Oct 3, 2020 04:03 |
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SKULL.GIF posted:Worked for the Lions!! He said a better coach, not a whiter coach.
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# ? Oct 3, 2020 04:04 |
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The problem with the Jets job beyond the total lack of talent on the roster is that 1) because this GM hasn't done a good job so far in replacing the previous GM he becomes on the hot seat and you'll get fired with him OR the new guy comes in and has to be handcuffed with you effectively creating this current situation again. The other thing is ownership meddling and general incompetence from them. They stuck their nose into things and hired Gase, let MacCagnan have another draft before firing him, hired a GM and told him he's only partially in charge because ownership wants Gase as the coach not whoever he wants. The real thing that needs to happen is they need to totally clean house from top to bottom. Bring in someone who is gonna tell Chris Johnson to keep his nose out of things, shut up and sign the checks and stay out of the way. The odds of that happening are slim to none, but they arent gonna have any success until it does because it's going to be a game of undermining the people you hire over and over
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# ? Oct 3, 2020 12:47 |
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sean10mm posted:Part of me kind of loves how terrible NFL coaches can be. At least 1 in 4 NFL coaches is aggressively horrible at their job. Like just loving dumb.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 15:52 |
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Matt Patricia and blowing double-digit leads, name a more iconic duo
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 19:34 |
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Bill O'Brien the head coach and Bill O'Brien the general manager
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 19:45 |
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Fire Mike McCarthy
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 21:38 |
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Man the cowboys would be insane if they played four quarters
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 21:41 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man the cowboys would be insane if they played four quarters Says a lot when the offense only works when the defense is tired.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 21:50 |
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CharlestheHammer posted:Man the cowboys would be insane if they played four quarters The Mike McCarthy Experience
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 22:16 |
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The next update should list Matt Patricia with a never ending tail of fire emojis
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 22:20 |
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Alfred P. Pseudonym posted:Fire Mike McCarthy Look continuity is important and it's like Jason Garret never left.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 22:23 |
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https://twitter.com/MichaelDavSmith/status/1312853557742370816
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:18 |
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He knows Belichick’s coffee order
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:20 |
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His picks were good under the coach he fired!
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:20 |
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Gettleman’s seat is on fire and I think if he gets fired Judge goes with him.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:36 |
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Why did the Lions fire Caldwell?
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:38 |
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Kirios posted:Why did the Lions fire Caldwell? Couldn't get the team over the hump. The Lions have expectations they expect to hit.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:40 |
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Armitage posted:Gettleman’s seat is on fire and I think if he gets fired Judge goes with him. The giants are too classy for this
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:41 |
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Kirios posted:Why did the Lions fire Caldwell? he hosed up the Lions culture of being constant losers with no hope
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:41 |
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Kalli posted:Couldn't get the team over the hump. The Lions have expectations they expect to hit. Well Patricia is a large hump and I'd take Caldwell over him any day.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:41 |
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Ches Neckbeard posted:The giants are too classy for this and classiness is what gets you a GM trapped in a time when players were still wearing leather helmets.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:47 |
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Kirios posted:Why did the Lions fire Caldwell? Fat Matt the rapist needed a job.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:55 |
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now I've had a lot of harsh words for Patricia, but I understand it's a tough job. In fact, I'd love to invite him to join me to hash things out over a cask of Amontillado I've stored under Ford Field.Kirios posted:Why did the Lions fire Caldwell? Caldwell could get the team to play to its level of talent, but not much beyond that. So we'd (mostly) beat bad teams we were supposed to beat, but only rarely beat actually good teams. Lions also had a habit of losing games we absolutely needed to win, such as his second-to-last game, a loss against a Bengals team with nothing to play for that would have gotten us into the playoffs. of course with all that said, gently caress I'd have Caldwell back in a heartbeat over Patricia if that was an option.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:56 |
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Hey at least they didn't blow a fourth-quarter lead this time.
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# ? Oct 4, 2020 23:59 |
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I think if Caldwell had one more season there would be less reminiscing about him, but since they fired him when they did there needed to be an immediate improvement so lol. Quinn has played all the big hits from the ex NE front office blunder catalogue with a rapist head coach twist. What a run.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 00:11 |
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Yeah that whole timeline was loving clown shoes management. "Caldwell can't get this team to contender level, and the level of talent on this team should put them right on the edge of it at a minimum" - an assessment I actually agree with. Patricia is hired and immediately there's a huge regression in their ability. "Well he needs time to install his scheme and players" - wait what? This team was already on the edge of contention with the roster they had why are you torpedoing everything that got them there? I mean he should have been given zero years in my opinion but barring that you get 1 season to get your poo poo together and if you still look like hot garbage halfway through the next at the latest you should be gone. Not 3 years of failure with a team that you justified firing the last coach because he wasn't taking them to the next level.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 00:36 |
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Lions didn't actually have super bowl run talent is the joke. That team over performed under old stone face
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 00:38 |
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Not super bowl run talent, no. A roster that was on the edge of contention, though, yeah they were.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 01:16 |
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Parallelwoody posted:Not super bowl run talent, no. A roster that was on the edge of contention, though, yeah they were. They were also more fun to watch back then. Yeah they had a poo poo run game where announcers would go on and on about them not having a 100 yard rusher for so long but in general the games were fun and you always thought the Lions at least had a chance. Although Patricia's rank failure is not really something to be upset about. You knowingly hire a man who has extremely credible gang rape allegations leveled against him, all because he's Bill Belichek's coffee boy . The Lions deserve everything they've gotten and more
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 05:38 |
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I mean, I don't think the players or fans deserve it.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 05:45 |
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If Lynn goes back to Tyrod, put him on the hot seat
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 05:47 |
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Parallelwoody posted:Not super bowl run talent, no. A roster that was on the edge of contention, though, yeah they were. They were in contention because of Caldwell though. They looked in contention because of Caldwell. There were/are good players on that roster but they over performed with him.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 05:53 |
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It was pretty good the level he was able to elevate the team after how poorly they had sunk, but it was clear he wasn't going to get them to take the next step. For as much as they were able to over perform sometimes, there were too many games they were absolutely unprepared and that were poorly game-planned.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 06:21 |
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Parallelwoody posted:I mean, I don't think the players or fans deserve it. No, they don't and it's too bad but someone had to be punished for that transgression. It's 2020, karma is back baby
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 06:51 |
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Parallelwoody posted:It was pretty good the level he was able to elevate the team after how poorly they had sunk, but it was clear he wasn't going to get them to take the next step. For as much as they were able to over perform sometimes, there were too many games they were absolutely unprepared and that were poorly game-planned. Yeah, the Bengals game I mentioned was the most egregious loss, but there were more than a few really bad losses during his tenure. We also started the 2015 season (Calvin Johnson's last year) 1-7, and the 2016 season of miracle comebacks was built on winning against bad teams with last-second field goals. Caldwell was, arguably, a much worse coach than his record indicated, and there were very few people in Detroit who were sorry to see him go at the time.
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 07:58 |
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I don't think anyone expected the Caldwell Lions to be an actual Super Bowl contender (other than maybe the owners), but the lowkey best part of his tenure was that he brought stability and a happy locker room after literal decades of turmoil. Even the Jim Schwartz years were stuck with his hardass tactics as they tried to rebuild from 0-16, and he never got over the hump. Caldwell inherited a solid talent base, built a great locker room culture, went to the playoffs and barely missed it the next year ... which got him fired as his GM chased the next Great White Belichick Wannabe Savior. I mean, what do you even do at that point?
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 10:59 |
CharlestheHammer posted:Man the cowboys would be insane if they played four quarters Samadhi posted:The Mike McCarthy Experience It's actually surprising how consistent this has been throughout his coaching career. Everyone knows about the infamous 4Q collapse in
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 14:48 |
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# ? May 15, 2024 23:10 |
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https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1313221256980946944?s=19 I DECLARE BANKRUPTCY!
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# ? Oct 5, 2020 21:56 |