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Want to build a bunch of pyramids in the Colorado desert. Build an A-frame cabin on a patch of land and spread out pyramid shaped greenhouses full of weed around the property in the shape of a constellation that indicates good weed grows here. Now to figure out which constellation...
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Nigmaetcetera posted:What if it's worse than that? Maybe they're waiting for one race to thoroughly genocide all the others, like they did on their home planet. That would be horrifying. That or the idea that they'd want us to become more religious so they can slip in as our masters more easily. I kinda think that for 99.999% of us if some alien popped up in the WH briefing high fiving Trump not much would fundamentally change. Still gotta clock in at work, and pay the bills. So why not reveal themselves?
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frogge posted:That would be horrifying. That or the idea that they'd want us to become more religious so they can slip in as our masters more easily. There's a compelling argument to be made that the revelation of alien life possessing technology far greater than our own could break the psyche of humanity in a very messy way. They're probably just looking out for us, their retarded younger cousins
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Dec 8, 2020 01:44
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They're probably here like space Attenborough, take a few videos of the wildlife loving, collect a few samples, put it on intergalactic discovery channel right after "did ancient ghosts build the pyramids of greeplak iv?"
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aliens only want one thing: Mountain Dew Gamer Fuel. Game On!
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Here's a theory for you: Let's say somebody somewhere happens to see a bunch of aliens that are basically at an early hominid level of development through one of our telescopes or something (in this example, we've come a long ways on being able to look at planets from other galaxies), and they instantly think of the Great Filter and get the shakes. But then they start to think about it more and realize that there's a ton of poo poo the aliens aren't able to do at their level of development, all of which might end up being the Great Filter that has rendered the universe empty and mean we're still special, still the only race ahead of the Filter. They then think it's premature to discuss this with most anyone else, because if the population hears of this it's just going to be tons of newspapers saying "THE FILTER IS AHEAD OF US, THE END IS NIGH" but with more words for people who don't know what the Filter is when that's not remotely settled. So, instead they sit on this. They probably have to tell some higher-ups, but they convince them to hush it up too and make it hard/unappealing for anyone else to look at the planet with the aliens. The problem is, nobody knows what these aliens are going to do. The Filter might really be ahead of both branches of intelligent life... or, it might be behind us and ahead of them. Lots of speculation happens, lots of competing ideas get thrown around. The only way to prove any of the theories right or wrong is to monitor the aliens and see what happens. So they do. Eventually somebody maybe even gets the temptation and the material together to start loving with the aliens and make it more likely that they'll kill themselves in a way that matches up with their pet theory in the hopes that they can rocket to stardom on what will end up looking like convincing evidence of what, exactly, results in the Great Filter and finally put to bed the idea that we aren't total masters of the universe. What's to stop a more advanced species than us having the same thought process?
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Here's a theory for you: Let's say somebody somewhere happens to see a bunch of aliens that are basically at an early hominid level of development through one of our telescopes or something (in this example, we've come a long ways on being able to look at planets from other galaxies), and they instantly think of the Great Filter and get the shakes. But then they start to think about it more and realize that there's a ton of poo poo the aliens aren't able to do at their level of development, all of which might end up being the Great Filter that has rendered the universe empty and mean we're still special, still the only race ahead of the Filter. They then think it's premature to discuss this with most anyone else, because if the population hears of this it's just going to be tons of newspapers saying "THE FILTER IS AHEAD OF US, THE END IS NIGH" but with more words for people who don't know what the Filter is when that's not remotely settled. It makes 0 sense whatsoever
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to observe any other species at all requires interstellar travel
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What if aliens brought covid accidentally
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If nasa let me behind the wheel of a ship that can shoot across the universe I'd sure as poo poo mess with primitives and get them to build me big gently caress off triangles in the desert. Aliens are like the least interesting theory. Yeah they're smart animals so what I bet they still walk into a space room and space forget what they space went in there for. I bet they still accidentally hypershart their spacesuits when they astro-sneeze. Now if its time travellers that's some hot poo poo. What are they here to watch? Covid collapsing the american empire? Killer hornets finally becoming the dominant species? am I about to invent the time machine?????? Comedy option: it's ghosts and it's because dropping nukes opened the gates to hell.
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So Twin Peaks season 3 is factual then?
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Play posted:There's a compelling argument to be made that the revelation of alien life possessing technology far greater than our own could break the psyche of humanity in a very messy way. They're probably just looking out for us, their retarded younger cousins I don't buy this at all. There is no universal human psyche, humans will believe whatever they're being fed by their culture. The fact of aliens existing and visiting earth will be assimilated into the culture, and for most people aliens will become just another content generator on the social inter tubes. Some people think the aliens have been "softening us up" for the last 70-80 years, but christ let's get on with it. I'm soft enough already. Bring on the ETs.
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raspurtin posted:Some people think the aliens have been "softening us up" for the last 70-80 years, but christ let's get on with it. I'm soft enough already. Bring on the ETs. Hopefully they have space Viagra
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Play posted:There's a compelling argument to be made that the revelation of alien life possessing technology far greater than our own could break the psyche of humanity in a very messy way I never bought this argument because presumably technology that advanced would come with like, cures for cancer and hunger and etc
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Butternubs posted:They're probably here like space Attenborough, take a few videos of the wildlife loving, collect a few samples, put it on intergalactic discovery channel right after "did ancient ghosts build the pyramids of greeplak iv?" lol
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Muk Dumpster posted:What if aliens brought covid accidentally holey gently caress... covid proven an e.t. phenomenon with The Secret Cipher of the UFOnauts: 
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Maybe the aliens are just concerned fellow citizens and you're merely trapped in Hairless Ape Simulator VR game 
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Ignatius M. Meen posted:Here's a theory for you: Let's say somebody somewhere happens to see a bunch of aliens that are basically at an early hominid level of development through one of our telescopes or something (in this example, we've come a long ways on being able to look at planets from other galaxies), and they instantly think of the Great Filter and get the shakes. But then they start to think about it more and realize that there's a ton of poo poo the aliens aren't able to do at their level of development, all of which might end up being the Great Filter that has rendered the universe empty and mean we're still special, still the only race ahead of the Filter. They then think it's premature to discuss this with most anyone else, because if the population hears of this it's just going to be tons of newspapers saying "THE FILTER IS AHEAD OF US, THE END IS NIGH" but with more words for people who don't know what the Filter is when that's not remotely settled. Hmmm yeah I’m just not sure about that right now
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Simone Magus posted:I never bought this argument because presumably technology that advanced would come with like, cures for cancer and hunger and etc Same. Plus it majorly discounts our ability to use our imaginations to creatively adapt to new situations.
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Aliens are actively trading with us, but will never bring us into the galactic council until we have one world government. We can't have an american-chinese conflict or something stupid, getting off planet. Then the aliens start taking sides, and suddenly all the galaxy is at war because of maneuvers in the south china sea
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What if the aliens communicate via taste by shooting a viscous liquid from the tips of their fingers into each others mouths, and they want to talk to you.
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Halloween Liker posted:What if the aliens communicate via taste by shooting a viscous liquid from the tips of their fingers into each others mouths, and they want to talk to you. That’s how the aliens pee in Scary Movie 3
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So is the reason why there are different shapes and sizes of UFO's? Like are the round ones scouts while the triangle ones are abductors, or does each shape represent a different species piloting it?
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some are scouts, some are for abducting and probing, and some are weird alien sex cruises full of space STDs
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And those orbs that get you high
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Entorwellian posted:So is the reason why there are different shapes and sizes of UFO's? Like are the round ones scouts while the triangle ones are abductors, or does each shape represent a different species piloting it? Some are piloted by the greys, others are piloted by humans.
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An alien came to my house and demanded to suck my dick for hours
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frogge posted:Same. Plus it majorly discounts our ability to use our imaginations to creatively adapt to new situations. Also, the alien craft gradually increase in size but they can be piloted by any of these species. However, most of the time you'll only encounter one species and its associated terror raid organism.
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Big Beef City posted:An alien came to my house and demanded to suck my dick for hours Man that’s nothing, an earth girl came to my house and demanded I be inside her for 3 days. 
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frogge posted:We know how to build space ships and probes and what have you, though. If it's something cultural or social that's holding us back that would make more sense. It's a matter of time before we start doing stuff in our solar system be it stations, moon base, or asteroid mining. If it's that we don't know FTL or yet have anything substantial that we made floating around our neighborhood, again just a matter of time. edit: Assuming we don't completely collapse and die from global climate change. It's a matter of attitude. No one wants to be first guy to invent the new space drive and everyone wants to be the first guy to debunk the new space drive. The arguments against FTL based on relativity are patently absurd*, but that hasn't stopped them from becoming accepted wisdom, because yelling "Preposterous!" and popping your monocle is a lot more rewarding/easy. *let me here quickly count some ways they are absurd (I assume we have all heard it violates causality) - only works when drawing space-time diagrams on a paper; if you try to apply the actual Lorentz transformation you get imaginary or undefined results, signaling the theory isn't equipped to deal with this situation - similarly if you try to derive special relativity using the geometric arguments it will obviously not work for FTL speeds, you need a new theory - even in the spacetime diagram it becomes clear there are frames where causality is preserved. Saying obviously unphysical frames of references are equally valid, or even more valid than those that preserve causality is absurd. You either need a new theory or to be more careful with your calculations - seeing that all frames are no longer equally valid, the principle of relativity no longer holds and the theory cannot apply, just as it doesn't for accelerating or rotating frames but we don't say that's an argument against those frames - theories in the end can't be prescriptive on what is possible and what isn't, they are simply tools Recently I have seen a few physicists realize and speak out that relativity can't say anything about the matter, but I doubt it will affect the common senses in the slightest. Everyone still thinks "you can't prove a negative" after all and that's even an obvious self-contradiction that would be unprovable if it were true. But they heard it somewhere so they just accepted it without thinking very much about it.
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aliens are just waiting for us to make Giga-Weed and then they'll come in and chill out alternatively, they are waiting for us to develop a weapon that would make us players on a galactic scale and then they'll subjugate us cause no one wants a naked ape with a gun running around
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Mooey Cow posted:It's a matter of attitude. No one wants to be first guy to invent the new space drive and everyone wants to be the first guy to debunk the new space drive. The arguments against FTL based on relativity are patently absurd*, but that hasn't stopped them from becoming accepted wisdom, because yelling "Preposterous!" and popping your monocle is a lot more rewarding/easy. balderdash!!!
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Halloween Liker posted:What if the aliens communicate via taste by shooting a viscous liquid from the tips of their fingers into each others mouths, and they want to talk to you. Hmm, that really would be something
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Barry Foster posted:balderdash!!! Truth 
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Mooey Cow posted:It's a matter of attitude. No one wants to be first guy to invent the new space drive and everyone wants to be the first guy to debunk the new space drive. The arguments against FTL based on relativity are patently absurd*, but that hasn't stopped them from becoming accepted wisdom, because yelling "Preposterous!" and popping your monocle is a lot more rewarding/easy. Hmmm, if you think about, you could make the same argument about free energy devices. Maybe all the eggheads are just too narrowminded to consider that two sticks and two toy magnets could satisfy the world's energy needs
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If someone manages to build a free energy device out of sticks and magnets, that absolutely defeats any number of appeals to various mathematical expressions. If it works it works. Also consider how the response to that cold fusion thing, which wasn't even free energy, wasn't simply "welp guess they made a measurement error or smth oh well", but instead a huge loving campaign and multiple books to totally destroy those two scientists and make sure no one ever tries anything similar ever again. Some people are now looking into if maybe they found something interesting after all, but they've had to name the research something completely different.
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Lol everyone’s so obsessed with the free energy poo poo that they don’t even give a poo poo what kind of energy they want. Like blah blah blah quantum this, quantum that.. No discussion of qualitative or evaluative processes.
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I don't know why, maybe it's a language barrier thing but I can't find much on this Haim Eshed guy or the Israeli Space Security program. Like, has anyone checked to see if this guy is who he says he is or that this program exists? All I can find are regurgitated news articles and weird youtube videos with robot voices and pictures of aliens from the last 2 days.
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Yes, I'm sure the space civilizations prioritized contacting Israel.
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