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Drone Jett posted:LOL at that lovely Wall that only lasted 10,000 years. But the White Walkers blow through it once they show up again 10,000 years later, and the wildlings are constantly getting around it or going over it.
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nine-gear crow posted:Holy gently caress, Hieronymus really did break you, didn’t he? This is amazing He already got probated once for saying something "positive". Have you considered the possibility it's.. sarcasm?
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Feb 5, 2019 01:53
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kcroy posted:Just in case you feel like raging a bit, go listen to GRRM ramble on about which Hugo category Fire and Blood should be. I have to say it seems really weird to me that he isn't finishing his series. I mean this is what he'll be remembered for, it seems like you'd want to finish it. Rather than just, writing other weird stuff set in the same universe.
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Feb 5, 2019 02:45
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kcroy posted:It makes a lot of sense if you think of this way. He _is_ finishing it. He is just doing it at his own pace. The first three books came out relatively fast - but since then we've seen a book like every 6 years or so. So this next one is a bit late, for sure, but only like 40% late. I'd expect to see something in the next 2 years. 40% late is a lot late for a book, especially when you're an old extremely fat man who gets and has gotten no exercise for years and years. I mean I get it, I just think its kind of bizarre.
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Feb 8, 2019 00:04
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Ague Proof posted:If Westworld can get away with releasing 1 season every 2 years without losing viewers, then Game of Thrones could have and should have done the same early on to give AFFC & ADWD a fair shot. Yeah my immediate thought to that was there's a bunch of kid characters, it's already a problem how fast they age vs the show. And somehow he's decrying them not copying on to the series rot.
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Feb 15, 2019 10:42
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Why does Hollywood love stupid sword designs so much? I was watching The Mummy, because it's on Netflix and they have virtually the same swords as the Arakhs the Dothraki use. I instantly hate when I see stupid weapons and I don't know who the audience is that loves it. Everything about the way the Dothraki are presented in the show seems beyond stupid to me. They don't seem to have bows or armor or anything, they are just so badass with their badass swords that everyone is afraid of them or what.
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Feb 26, 2019 03:03
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nine-gear crow posted:It's Hollywood's exaggerated idea of what a khopesh, a real and actually practical weapon, is supposed to look like. Based on a little googling it was a bronze weapon that went out of style sometime around 1300 BC so basically, compared to more modern weapons it sucks?
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Feb 26, 2019 04:21
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TK-42-1 posted:curved blades have been better for riders/cavalry since forever Based on what? Also, these aren't really "curved swords" they have a straight section then a C on top of it, more or less.
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Feb 26, 2019 04:55
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Steve2911 posted:HBO will be making GOT related media until the day he dies and probably afterwards. Naw one of the shows won't do well and they'll decide the IP has seen it's day and cancel the rest.
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Feb 28, 2019 12:20
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Intel&Sebastian posted:looooooooool ok guy Well if it any time he was going to have a real deadline it's before the show ends, any release of the book by that time will probably have increased sales. I mean I'm not sure if he actually cares (or should) I'm sure he has plenty of cash to do whatever by now. Maybe he just didn't want endless bitching about how he was busy being in the show rather than writing?
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Feb 28, 2019 22:08
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Intel&Sebastian posted:I think any release will probably do gangbusters relatively since a ton of people have read the books as something to do while the show was off but everyone involved in selling it is going to forever wonder how much more they could have had if he wasn't such a lazy shitdick. If he ever writes it, it will probably also do well because they can market it as "what really happened" or something along those lines. There's a fair amount of evidence of divergence now (the whole yet another Targaryen sub-plot for example) though that'll be tough if it ends the same way.
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Mar 4, 2019 09:45
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Katt posted:Whatever happened to the fat guy who went off to meister Hogwarts to learn meistering? In the show, he shovels some poo poo, cures Jorah, gets impatient, steals some books and a sword and heads back to the wall. They only work when dragons are in the world, so they are a way of showing magic has come back into the world.
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Mar 4, 2019 19:24
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Sassy Sasquatch posted:I'm fairly sure there's a fleshed out theory that points to the candles being used as a test by the maesters to identify any candidates with magic potential to disappear them pronto. I think it's part of the grand maesters conspiracy or whatever: This basically seems like something that would be in a better series of books by a better writer. There are little hints of it "they're making a world without blah blah" but one of the Grand Masters is himself "the mage" and learns magic and stuff.
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Mar 5, 2019 01:43
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A Typical Goon posted:I've always thought the glass candles would end up being just Dues Ex Machina to communicate across far distances. The Maesters aren't the only ones that use them, Qaithe uses one to talk to Dany in Meeren Seems unnecessary given they have ravens that fly thousands of miles and dragons that can find you in the middle of a trackless tundra.
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Mar 5, 2019 03:23
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Katt posted:Started watching the show. Ned strikes me as unusually killcrazy. I think in the books at least Ned tells Robert to do it himself and he just walks out? But yeah he's a bit violent, or at least a series of events happens that forces him to be violent. It's more or less implied there hasn't been much going on for like 18? years except the odd Night's Watch deserter. Honestly, I have no idea how they catch Night's Watch deserters, it seems like the first thing you'd do is steal some different clothes. The North is supposed to be the size of half the US, with medieval technology. If you just showed up somewhere how would they know? Also, it doesn't seem like people really avoid wearing black, there's no particular stigma attached to it or anything (that I recall)
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Mar 5, 2019 09:53
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pseudanonymous posted:it seems like the first thing you'd do is steal some different clothes Deptfordx posted:I'm guessing 'Guy wanders in, all in black, on his own, who nobody knows, without money, and no clear explanation for what he's doing' is going to be a little suspicious. Why would they not have money? How do they pay the whores in moles town? There's clearly towns where strangers show up for various reasons, nobody assaults Brienne & co out of hand, nor Davos when he wanders into town. Nobody straight up murders Arya with all her wandering. Obviously you'd have to make up a lie about where you're from, but you're from somewhere so it probably wouldn't even be that much of a lie. All I'm saying is it's a basic oversight. They'd brand them with an N or something on their hand (yes then of course you could wear gloves but). To me the Night's Watch just seems like another of those decent concepts where Martin couldn't be bothered to think through the implications.
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Mar 5, 2019 10:58
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Steve2911 posted:Source your quotes. I thought Catelyn Stark was supposed to be a great beauty in her day, why else was Littlefinger so obsessed with her? I don't' find whatever her name is to be very attractive. And I thought they should've used only one actor to play Jaime/Cersei, it's a fairly major point that Cersei doesn't even really love Jaime, he's just a male reflection of herself.
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Mar 5, 2019 21:32
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V. Illych L. posted:tbf it might have gone better if lysa wasn't completely loving insane The whole set up is kind of like that, the Starks haven't been to court in 17 years? Yet they rule half the realm? It's a little forced how out of touch the Starks are with everything, especially given how easily it seems like ravens fly all the time. Ned talks about Jon Arryn like he's a second father, but he never once visited him or his pseudo-brother Robert? He never sends the hand North? Also kind of wonder why Cersei stops having kids. She clearly never stopped sleeping with Jaime though biology is complex. I guess maybe she was drinking that moon tea.
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Mar 6, 2019 00:09
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esperterra posted:a lot of things might have lmao What would've really been different? Rob still won in the Riverlands, even with less troops, and still got owned because he broke his betrothal. Actually though when you think about it, it kind of doesn't make sense how Tywin acts. How does he know that the Vales forces won't emerge at any time and catch him between the proverbial hammer and the anvil? Kind of doesn't make sense that he goes to Harrenhall.
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Collateral posted:Climate is hosed up in Westeros, its normal everywhere else.. Isn't the only time it's mentioned by that woman who is apparently very old who was a nursemaid to the Starks? Maybe Melisandre brings it up and I'm not remembering. It does seem like if the white walkers win, they'd be stuck in Westeros. That'd actually be a pretty awesome ending to the series, Cersei takes whatever gold she can and flees to one of the free cities while the Seven Kingdoms drown in blood and ice.
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Mar 6, 2019 14:53
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Did the show ever make it explicit that Robert was a megacreeper who Lyanna was never really interested in anyway? Wasn't it more touched off by the burning alive of Brandon and Rickard Stark?
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Mar 6, 2019 17:56
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esperterra posted:That just made things worse imo and brought the other lords closer to Robert's side, but Bobert would have kept his rebellion going til he either died or got Lyanna back This is what the wiki says, for what it's worth "280-281 AC: In response to the king's murder of Rickard and Brandon Stark, the new Lord of Winterfell, Eddard Stark, raises the banners of the North. Robert Baratheon, Lord of Storm's End and betrothed to Lyanna, joins the rebellion, raising the banners of the Stormlands." One thing never made sense to me in GoT, there's basically no fostering going on when the war starts. They discuss fostering Arryns son. Yet the king's life was defined by his being fostered by Jon Arryn, and it's the kind of thing you do to keep wars from starting. I think it's just more authorially convenient than having floating children scattered around various houses, but it's just another thing that doesn't ring true to me. pseudanonymous fucked around with this message at 18:02 on Mar 6, 2019 |
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Katt posted:Wasn't the mad king about to explode the whole city with magic elf napalm? Yeah, he had it secreted around the city by his pyromancer hand, but that was after the loss at the Trident.
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Mar 6, 2019 18:05
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esperterra posted:It always did strike me as odd that none of Ned's sons were the wards of other lords tbh. Robert's children not being sent away I can buy b/c Cersei would probably refuse to send them away, but you'd think Ned would have sent a few away. And Doran Martell has been plotting a rebellion ever since the last war, yet he neither fosters his children out or has some brought in to build alliances.
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Martin's world has seasons that last for years (yet Earth flora/fauna), examining the climate for inconsistencies may be a futile endeavor.
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Evil Fluffy posted:It's been established that Catelyn is an idiot. IF she wasn't then she'd know that. It is a plot so laughably dumb it's hard to believe anyone would've believed it. Evil Fluffy posted:She'd also remember that Tywin desperately wants a Valerian Steel sword for his house and so the odds of him allowing Tyrion to own a dagger of that material is absolute zero. I don't know how she would necessarily know that. I didn't particularly like the "Tywin wants a Valyrian steel sword" nugget, it seemed out of character for him and simultaneously I had a hard time believing the richest most powerful house in Westeros couldn't get his hands on one or a few daggers and melt them down.
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Solice Kirsk posted:None of them ever being for sale is the whole reason he wants one. To me, it doesn't seem true to the world, that Tywin Lannister couldn't get one if he really wanted one. There's the dagger, the random sellsword with one, the one Jorah leaves behind. They don't seem to be that rare, and people aren't that careful with them. I get that "nobody would sell him one" it just feels like authors fiat rather than something organic to the world itself. He could also have one stolen and melted down like he essentially does.
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Mar 7, 2019 02:11
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Steve2911 posted:And like I get the intention behind this but I never thought of Joffrey as a behind-the-scenes schemer. I'd have thought he'd just stand on the battlements screaming 'KILL HIM SER MANDON! KILL HIM NOW!' Battle scenes are like expensive I think. Lots of extras and or CGI.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:They look bad. It's a bad look.
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Mar 9, 2019 17:23
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah. They said it was their little shout out to Jorge and his habit of killing characters (read: beetles) in large numbers and for little to no reason. Is there a source for that? Everything I've read points to it being a reference to Orson Scott Card. (And the beetles from Enders Game)
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Mar 9, 2019 23:28
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A GLISTENING HODOR posted:The dumbest thing with the Unsullied was the spears. This is an incredibly consistent problem with how combat is portrayed in most movies/TV. It's stage fighting. I quite liked Kingdom of Heaven because the combat in it felt far more real to me. GoT fighting was bad to okay, depending on the episode.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Yeah i remember covering the really pedantic ~*world-building*~ Stuff like house Beesbury it's like impossible to parody.
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Katt posted:I like how the show portrays the Eyrie as this impenetrable fortress. I can believe it but if only 3 soldiers can walk abreast to reach the castle then why wouldn't an invading army just post a garrison at the entrance and then just let them starve in there? How did they even build the eyrie? It's a fortress on top of a mountain. The path is so narrow you can only take goats up there. For that matter how did they build the wall? The civilization doesn't seem even remotely capable of that kind of organized effort. Though granted it was apparently 8000 years ago, so they could be entirely different then. Which brings up the fantasy trope of civilizations that don't functionally change for thousands of years, which I really don't understand.
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Katt posted:Good question. I haven't gotten that far yet. This maybe feels more explicit in the books since you see the word Mormont twice. The church had lots of refuges hanging out and some of them were armed with clubs and stuff already, mostly Cersei just gave them crown permission to be what they already were. It was the Griffin guy who got stone leprosy, the one who kept the other last Targaryean safe all these years.
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less laughter posted:He wanted to keep her son close by so he could still feel like his sister wasn’t entirely gone Frankly "Ned" is one of the dumbest most baffling characters in ASoIaF. A lot of what he does is driven by what will move the plot along.
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Mar 11, 2019 19:19
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hobbesmaster posted:Ned doesn't understand the society he's in. I get that interpretation of Ned, that he basically believes in chivalry etc.. but it seems hard to believe he's that naive given what happens to his father/brother, the queen's betrayl, Jon Arryns murder, his sisters elopement etc.. and even if he does I don't see it all that well established through the flashbacks and whatnot from the children, which is where you'd expect to see "father always said justice blah blah".
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:As usual, fans quibble about the finer details and logic of the plot rather than discussing writing. I think the writing is reliable and workhorse like. It has great adequasivity.
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Mar 12, 2019 01:22
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Katt posted:You know something is wrong when I feel disappointed that Brann and friends got away from the zombie horde. Like come on! You almost had them! Are you even trying? She's pulling a sled and you broke down the door like 50 meters behind her! There were thousands of you, where did the others go? Listen there's no way that zombies which crawl onto walls and ceilings like spiders and can tumble down cliffs unharmed and feel no cold nor hunger could catch a tiny girl pulling a crippled boy on a sled in a blizzard. Be realistic.
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Katt posted:Rattle shirt didn't play much of a role in the show. A few snide remark and a heated debate with Tormund and he bowed out. I'm not doing the math but it might be because he was more important in the books so they included him in the show, then they found out there's no way the books are getting finished and they were told the major plot points and he didn't matter, so they wrapped him up.
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kcroy posted:Yes - there was supposed to be an attraction between him and Arya ( you can see some remnants of it in the Needle scene ). Which becomes "ok" once he knows his background. I don't have source on this, but I think it was from the original editor's notes or something. Yeah, it's super okay to gently caress your cousin, that you grew up with as a child, nothing creepy about that at all.
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