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prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Zamujasa posted:

sell low, buy high

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prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


does it seem fair to $TSLA investors that they will (assuming Elon is not lying) let them either sell their stake at a ~20% premium or just give up on the scrutiny applied to public companies?

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


hobbesmaster posted:

presumably thats why there'd be such a huge premium

if it's the saudi wealth fund that's putting up the money to make this happen, musk may have found people with the patience (and possibly several other qualities) necessary to keep tesla going for his lifetime

is there a term for this? despite the similarity it's not "failing upwards"

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


MACREAM

massive accumulations (of) capital rule everything around me

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


petrostate wealth fund is way way way beyond "gently caress you money", "gently caress this company money", or "gently caress this middling nation-state money".

it's "gently caress the world money"

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


just spitballin' here but galaxy brain: SEC can't follow up on a whistleblower tip if company goes private??

https://www.washingtonpost.com/tech...ower-complaint/

Could be a good way to get rid of the (permanent) reputational risk to the tesla brand

e: not like the SEC ever wants to follow up on those tips / they have recently changed policy to encourage ratting on smaller companies and discourage ratting on larger ones

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


the talent deficit posted:

given no one at tesla knew until after he tweeted it i'm gonna go with 'the book is gonna be like bad blood but even crazier'

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.



tag yourself, I'm the need to exert a weird dominance hierarchy in every human relationship

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

even species that form dominance hierarchies compete for mates, not with their mates

yep! also a lot of that alpha/beta stuff is apparently based on observation of canines in captivity and misses on behavior in the wild

whether that makes it more or less applicable to human beings is up in the air, depending on how comfortable you are equating society with prison

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


go play outside Skyler posted:

220 lbs for 6'4 isn't even that fat no? i mean it's fat but it's nothing like obese or anything, according to bmi

220 lbs isn't that heavy for 6'4-- BMI is misleading for tall and short people.

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.



Hmm, yes, I definitely cannot find any examples of athletes < 7 feet with weight over 200 lbs.

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


maybe being at best borderline incompetent to manage certain businesses and taking drugs is not a good way to be a tech tycoon? who knows

grimes' boyfriend knows

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


on the one extreme, elon could be turned into An Example
on the other extreme, the SEC could act exactly as useless as everyone suspects it is
somewhere in the middle lies getting a slap on the wrist as elon makes bombastic statements about how great he, $TSLA and spacex are

alas, option 3 is the most likely

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


hobbesmaster posted:

the likely penalty from an SEC settlement would be a ban on being an officer of or on the board of a company

think about how musk would take that

loike a fokken pooss

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Dixie Cretin Seaman posted:

that depends on whether KSA takes spacex private

uhhhhh spacex is already private and national security types might not want another nation owning a major military launch provider

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.



stories like these should absolutely be required reading for starry-eyed engineering students

hmm, you think the engineers trying hard to do good work get to be the heroes of the story? heh, not under capitalism

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


akadajet posted:

didn't he have a post saying he retained some lawyers before posting all of that? it looked like he did it under their advice. strange world we live in.

posting material evidence to twitter to improve your bargaining position? what would deleting your account after that mean

I'd be shocked if this guy gets any sort of settlement and doesn't end up gagged

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


PleasureKevin posted:

no, but i can hold my head up high, speak the truth thatís in my heart, and sadly lack anything to say for the remaining 6 seconds

President Beep posted:

live your truth, pk. to bring pleasure to others you must first bring it to.............yourself.

pleasurekevin is insanely good imo

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


ol qwerty bastard posted:

god is there anything more repugnant than journos fawning over the ~~tragic billionaire~~ and trying to make it out like he's just a dude like you or i but with so much crushing responsibility he's really a modern-day atlas, how sad

i was going to make some joke about how it'd be like a feudal lord getting all the town criers to proclaim to the peasants how overworked and stressed he is, but then realized if anything it's worse than that since:
a) a lord couldn't easily abdicate his position without causing problems, while musk absolutely could just retire tomorrow - except he thinks he's so much smarter than everyone else that no one but him could possibly provide the necessary leadership, and
b) unlike a lot of people today, peasants actually understood their place in the system and knew that it didn't matter how hard they worked, they would never be the king (not defending entrenched social hierarchies just stating the fact that no one reading this is ever going to be a billionaire [sorry])

so while a lord complaining to a peasant would be totally a dick move, i actually don't think it's as heinous as this late-capitalism "billionaires are our friends, sympathize with them" bullshit narrative they try to sell us all the time

yeah dude

ol qwerty bastard posted:

reminder that having a ton of money actually breaks human brains in measurable ways, and not good ways either unless you're a big fan of narcissistic sociopathy

source you're assertions

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


I know why Elon hates short sellers

It's his entirely sincere socialist beliefs

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


qirex posted:

any real billionaire who still works at an actual job and isn't just a philanthropist, hobbyist or full time family person has brain worms

"I have enough money to do literally whatever I want until I die but I'm going to attend this 4 hour meeting because ~*mY lEgAcY*~"

capitalist in grips of capitalist propaganda / cannot enjoy insane good fortune, news at 11

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


elmer chud posted:

This is what it is, this is how the article about his sob story ends

But, he added, “if you have anyone who can do a better job, please let me know. They can have the job. Is there someone who can do the job better? They can have the reins right now.”

it's so clear that he's asking that question in a histrionic, rhetorical way

"oh boo hoo poor me, I'd totally quit this job if there's someone who could do a better job bb bubub ubububuut this is my unique destiny and literally no other businessperson in the world could do it that's unpossible"

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


if any of the problems surfaced so far are as significant as they seem they should 100% be engaged in trying to find partnerships (aka shop the various assets of $TSLA including the brand around) with other automakers; that's what a competent replacement for elon musk would do.

if musk defines the mission of tesla as continuing on his nutso crusade (to defeat automakers and oil companies! by being a lovely automaker and taking saudi investment!) then indeed, there is no one who is both competent and committed to continue down that path; the two are mutually exclusive

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Someone was whispering earlier that the school Musk opened was specifically for purposes of keeping his kids' developmental differences private.

I personally am good with gossiping about and poo poo-talking the man but not poo poo-talking any sort of congenital developmental stuff.

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


indigi posted:

why not just buy a few teachers to home school them rather than go through this nonsense

Just like it's not enough to be a billionaire and make money from owning financial instruments, you gotta be a world-changing businessman

Why settle for privacy and a good education when you could be sending your children to the most exclusive school for the unbelievably gifted

Why do objectively good thing when you could buff your ego to a high shine

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.



Almost like being an "eccentric engineering genius" CEO taking acid doesn't make for effective communication skills

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


I'm really tempted to buy a "learn how to speak with accent" course now

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


$25, cheap!

https://www.accenthelp.com/products/south-african

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


if obstipator really wanted to help, he'd start a blockchain startup

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


completely inflexible thinking that makes heavy use of absolutes: a sign of mental health and human flourishing

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


hmmm, maybe elon should get them to add some looooooong shorts to their merch lineup

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


ADINSX posted:

Do auto companies try and weight those numbers with the complexity of the car's design? 14% is awful no matter how you look at it, but considering that one of the strengths of electric cars and all that minimalist "software does everything" crap is that they're supposed to have LESS parts right, so in theory they should be easier to assemble?

*stannis baratheon voice* FEWER

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


when it's time to change my username I think I shall become

stannis voice FEWER

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Xealous posted:

like everyone else who was smart they either quit or were fired through no fault of their own so what youíre left with are people fearing for their job who desperately donít want to change status quo for fear it will break something

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


I think your original thread title was pure art

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


I hope that 90% of the visiting HN crowd are just disgusted and slink away

and 10% are like, "this looks like way more fun," and join to become mid-tier shitposters

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


hmm, yes, and then a thread about how to value startup equity

and another thread about how to claw back startup equity

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


movax posted:

“yeah I went to a state school, did one internship and am getting $250K base, $150K RSUs, $50K poo poo-posting bonus and they’re sending someone over to my house nightly to blow me”

"Huh, most places the 365 beejs per annum look good on paper but they contract them out to the lowest bidder (as long as their STI panel stays up to date). How are they doing, on a scale from 0 to 'extremely DSL'?"

prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


movax posted:

ill start — I didn’t test and shipped a hardware (rtl) bug to orbit that precluded the recovery of a satellite

loll, that's gotta burn

from what I can divine, good NASA careers are built around satellites with a design life of X years that manage to survive 2X to 5X years (without being obsoleted by "same experiment or data collection, but next generation ")

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prisoner of waffles
May 8, 2007

Ah! well a-day! what evil looks
Had I from old and young!
Instead of the cross, the fishmech
About my neck was hung.


Zamujasa posted:

someone doesnt http get it

you can't PUT one over on this guy

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