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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





funny how the only methods of challenging capitalism that are legal to discuss are the ones that donít work

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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





how many times do we need to relitigate 2016 to gain confidence in the 30% figure

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

"Would you like it if we investigated YOUR guys" is the dumbest talking point imaginable and reduces any question of ethics down to a simple us vs them preposition

It's the moral rot of a society condensed into a single sentence.

any time I start talking politics with my mom (Iím getting better at avoiding it but not there yet) she always eventually comes out with ďbut her emailsĒ. yeah, lock her up. lock Obama up too. no mercy for war criminals. Iíve explained multiple times that Iím not a liberal and the narrative and talking points she gets from tv arenít going to work on me, but she always forgets by the next time we talk

terminal Fox News brain is pretty scary to watch

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jeffery Epstein didnít kill himself

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jeffery Epstein was murdered

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





fart simpson posted:

the sign is actually a list of reasons im not voting democrat

the only parties on the virginia ballot are gop, dems, libertarian. why i'm voting democrat extremely grudgingly

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





DELETE CASCADE posted:

as a straight cis white male suburb dweller, i don't need to own a gun to defend myself from chuds, because i am visually indistinguishable from a chud. hell, my dad voted for trump, i know how to deal with these people. in the scenario you are worried about, if you look white and delightsome, you're good, they aren't going to stop and interrogate you about politics. surely other white people have had this experience: the racists assume you are also a racist, the cops think you are on the side of cops, and they treat you as such. it's the ultimate privilege in trump's america! the folks who really need 500 guns in their trunk are people of color, transgender people, other visually obvious minorities

the plan is to open up the armory and hand out rifles when the revolution comes? I mean the marginal utility of guns for a single person drops off fast once you get out of the single digits

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Cold on a Cob posted:

it's ok his show is entertainment, as per Fox's lawyers, so if a post office ends up firebombed look, not his fault

the USPS was no angel

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





three weeks until i move to illinois, don't fall apart yet USA. i do not want to end up in the south after the collapse

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





is it possible to be a good person without literally martyring yourself 24/7? signs point to no, it is not

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jonny 290 posted:

counterpoint chuds only train to massacre unarmed minorities and they poo poo their underarmor panties any time even the slightest resistance appears

i dont train to massacre anyone so they're still up on me

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





akadajet posted:

I believe Trump is going to get voted out of office and that kind of nonsense will stop pretty quickly.

once the orange man is gone everyone will decide to keep the quiet part quiet again

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





akadajet posted:

the old people all die off and the young people get old and become chuds. it's a vicious cycle

silent generation is further left than boomers. I doubt that there were ever very many boomers who were actually on the left at all, aside from not wanting to fight in vietnam. always a fygm generation, just for a little while their interests coincided with people who give a poo poo about others. once the threat was removed itís yuppie time

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009






no way you can do that without war. the new confederacy would go Christian fascist immediately and launch a crusade against the abortionists

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Kazinsal posted:

blue collar jobs that aren't coal cracking exist

not in eastern kentucky, that's the point you simpleton. the jobs are gone

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Kazinsal posted:

go ahead, what's your solution then, o mighty all-knowing keeper of answers

because it sure as gently caress isn't "bring back the coal that they took away from us"

i don't fuckin know what will fix appalachia, but i'm just some dipshit computer toucher. the national parties plainly don't give a poo poo about the region, the whole area is dying, and i can completely understand why someone living there would be completely frustrated and unwilling to vote for either party. voting either way will make zero difference to the their day to day with no jobs, no hope, and no one in power giving a poo poo about them

saying "they took the coal away" isn't ideal wording, but if you're not a lib fuckhead looking for excuses to poo poo on the rural poor, you can pretty easily tell what they mean: the middle class jobs left, the money has completely disappeared from appalachia, everyone there is completely hosed, and the response of the political and economic infrastructure is basically a giant shrug. that's what the complaint is about, ultimately: the decision about what areas of the country prosper and what areas don't is made by the capitalist class. these people could have jobs, but it's more profitable for them to suffer so that's what happens.

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





President Beep posted:

i was being facetious because no one can understand what in the gently caress youíre trying to say about coal miners in Kentucky. job training to some other skilled trade is not an acceptable option for some reason?

unless youíre saying that the system is inherently stacked against them (which no one here disputes), but youíre being such a weapons grade dick about it that your message is wiped out.

all the job training programs in the world won't help people living in an area without jobs. to actually effect meaningful change you have two options, that i can think of in the thirty seconds i've bothered to think about it: either relocate former miners to a more prosperous area, or truck in cash to get some poo poo going

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





it should be very easy for everyone to vote for biden, and here's why:

you can't fix things by voting. don't come at me with some bullshit about constitutional amendments and abolishing the electoral college, that poo poo's less likely to happen than mitch mcconnell singing the internationale live on fox news. you do not get from contemporary america to a just society by voting for it. it doesn't matter that you don't have a candidate you like on the ballot, because the entire system is constructed to prevent candidates you like getting on the ballot.

voting is harm reduction. picking the lesser of two evils, and then go work toward change by other means

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





polyester concept posted:

but this isnt a typical lunch line. if not enough people choose poo poo sandwich with water, then the cafeteria is going to cheap out and nobody is gonna get water at all.

i would simply eat at the canadian cafeteria, where everyone gets poo poo and water for free

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





AnimeIsTrash posted:

I could see a blue texas but I don't think that is going to happen anytime soon.

This is from a complete outsider but it seems like a more gerrymandered virginia in that all the metropolitan/college areas are blue and the rest of the state is red.

thatís the whole country. solid red states are the shitholes with no cities of meaningful size

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud posted:

Biden is measurably worse than trump

what has trump (or his admin) actually accomplished, basically. they obviously want to do a lot of comically evil things, but theyíre also idiots. trump is one of the weakest presidents ever and itís down to him having no loving clue what heís doing lol

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Salt Fish posted:

They ripped apart every government institution and laid the groundwork for a total fascist takeover of the united states. This is like saying "what has the water damage actually done to my house foundation".

We're experiencing weimar-ification of america.

ok. so you donít actually have any impact metrics, just sentiment. doesnít sound very reality-based to me tbh

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Salt Fish posted:

Presidential KPIs

Biden is beating the poo poo out of trump on people unjustly imprisoned

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





itís not fascist if Iím not personally affected, thatís just common sense. Biden 2020

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





all I have to say about the election is if trump wins Iíll be logging off for a while

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





fart simpson posted:

jefferson made his 600 slaves go through the metal detector every day on their way to work

well yeah. they werenít voting so it was fine

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





mystes posted:

I'd love to believe that Bernie would have gotten tons of votes if he actually won the primary but honestly I'm not convinced. I still want to believe that Americans would eventually like universal healthcare but people's brains are so poisoned against "socialism" that I think that it would probably take like 10+ years for people to finally accept it.

If you just look at SA it seems like Bernie had much more momentum and it's easy to imagine that all Americans think the same way, but that probably isn't actually the case.

there are tons of surveys that show broad support for socialist policies when they're pitched neutrally and not when you use the S word, i.e. "do you agree that the government should ensure everyone who needs medical care gets it" vs "do you support socialized medicine"

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





brand it as SUPER CAPITALISM that will give everyone the FREEDOM to start a business and create jobs, and make unions totally pointless and die

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





psiox posted:

cryptochuds

this is some bullshit "you're disagreeing with me therefore you must be evil"

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Jabor posted:

also the american political system inherently disenfranchises the masses, you're only allowed to meaningfully vote for candidates that the party elites allow you to vote for.

dem leaders would prefer a republican president, or even four more years of trump, over a leftist. you will never see them put forward a leftist candidate. and the system prevents any new party that could represent the politically underserved parts of america from achieving anything at all.

electoralism is a dead end. you'll never get meaningful change by voting for it, because meaningful change will never be on the ballot

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





MLK wasn't leading a get out the vote drive is what i'm saying

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Pete only had to get bribed with sec. trans. to drop out before super tueday? what a fuckin loser. look at me Iím king of the interstate highway system. no one cares. his career is over

unless massive corruption and a seat on Teslaís board was the plan all along

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Broken Machine posted:

the whole q thing is a case study in what happens if you defund public education for 40+ years; you get a congress with people who can barely sign their own name or hold a coherent thought

you wish it was that simple. the usa actually spends a shitload on public education

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





qirex posted:

if most of it goes to executives, lawyers and administrators does it actually count as education spending

that's an extremely large claim and ridiculously untrue of the school districts i've actually looked at budget numbers for. not that i've looked at a lot of public school budgets

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Broken Machine posted:

if we're not paying teachers as well as lawyers and other professionals, if it's seen as inferior work and top students aren't going into it to instead become tech fuckos, we're not funding or supporting it appropriately. denmark and south korea pay teachers much better, it's a competitive career people want, and their educational outcomes reflect that. it in fact is that simple in that it's difficult but quite doable

I suspect that funding schools primarily with property taxes fucks everything up

poo poo even if paying teachers more didnít help anything, it would still be worthwhile. thereís no world where I should make more than someone who does actually useful work like teaching children

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





is there maybe some other place for you process your poo poo in

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





SmokaDustbowl posted:

no, rereg, I'm posting in the hellthread

lol whose rereg am I

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





SmokaDustbowl posted:

you tell me, person who I've never seen post here before

thereís a button you can push to see my posts itt. itís not my fault your memory is poo poo

Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





Kazinsal posted:

our GDP is actually not that low, it's about a twelfth of the US's

now, alberta's GDP, lol. that province is going to be a wasteland in five years since nobody wants lovely tar sands crude anymore and diamond joe's fourth executive order on day one of taking office was to directly and unequivocally put a bullet in alberta's head

does anyone care what happens to alberta who doesn't live there

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Nomnom Cookie
Aug 30, 2009





oh poo poo they made more flcl when I wasn't looking. cool

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