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Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

running steam on linux is not hard at all lol

as someone already mentioned steam will install the vc and directx redists for you. it's literally "wine steam.exe", or you can double click the desktop shortcut i guess

e: steam natively includes a wine wrapper ("proton") now on linux anyway. it will literally do everything for you

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:31

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:21

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Sapozhnik posted:

installing fedora linux and running things from steam involves too much nerd crap

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:35

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

installing fedora is just as difficult as installing windows 11. installing steam on any supported linux distro is literally the same process as windows, they even cloned the installer

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:36

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

just to check in, do you too argue that windows ships with "literal actual malware"

no, it ships with pointers to malware. afaik they're just shortcuts as-is

e: oh i guess that might be a reference to the analytics? in which case i understand it, but it's not malware. more like spyware i guess

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:38

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

like, OP does not think it's too hard to install linux. they're making fun of people in this thread who refuse to install linux. same as they were the last, idk, four or five times they posted that exact same thing in this thread. check their post history

lol ok point taken. still, it's pretty easy and the performance is usually just as good as windows, possibly better on older hardware

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

which ones are the malware?

see edit, i'm not even sure what they're actually referring to. if it's the third party stuff, idk. i never let it install. if it's the analytics, then yeah, that's not malware per se but the behavior isn't what i'd categorize as "good"

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:42

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

i think the origin of that was all the 1st party microsoft poo poo that resets your app preferences and defaults, behaving in the same way malware did in the 9x-win 7 days, where they would hijack your various settings to point to their services or apps

at any rate it's pretty unseemly. yeah a lot of people might appreciate that there's shortcuts to apps that they might want to download but the rest of us (or at least, *points at thread* us) don't want a bunch of third party crapware clogging up a clean install of an os, professional edition or no. it's still a pain in the rear end to remove and there have been more and more shortcuts cropping up with every major os update

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 20:45

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

it doesn't completely disable everything. like infernal said they will reinstall the garbage app shortcuts after every major update (i guess they're the equivalent of service packs now?) even if you tell it not to

they won't fully install of course, but the shortcuts are there. at least ime

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 21:05

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

just use the wine equivalents :haw:

joking aside i did do that back in the xp days on a school network to get around gp restrictions, regedit also. they worked

# ¿ Mar 22, 2023 23:56

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Pile Of Garbage posted:

xpost:

lol good poo poo

# ¿ Apr 6, 2023 00:50

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i doubt it, they usually emphasize that its a trademark lol

# ¿ Apr 6, 2023 03:03

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

why do they keep changing the goddamned icons

# ¿ Apr 18, 2023 02:39

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

qirex posted:

the only actually good microsoft products are getting canceled/rebranded

I was an intellimouse optical [the symmetrical one with side buttons] fanboy for almost a decade

lol jfc i just gave someone a recommendation for the most recent intellimouse explorer loving three days ago

# ¿ Apr 27, 2023 22:40

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

the coating on the thumb grip rubs off pretty easily too. i surprisingly don't use my mx master very much (literally maybe 2-3 times a month for maybe 5 hours, if that) and it's all smooth now

# ¿ Apr 28, 2023 01:51

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

microsoft made good general purpose peripherals though. most apple stuff really only works well with other apple stuff, even if it is somewhat compatible

similarly logitech of course makes good peripherals for pretty much any platform. i can't think of another manufacturer that comes close actually (and that's kinda bad)

# ¿ May 1, 2023 23:37

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i imagine the official driver is similar to the boot camp one for built-in trackpads. which is to say it's probably fine enough

# ¿ May 2, 2023 01:41

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

lol "edgeium" (pronounced ed-gee-yum)

# ¿ May 3, 2023 00:06

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i used edge on windows 11 for the first time in like a year yesterday and there was a bing sidebar and a bunch of bullshit by default

i did not continue to use edge

# ¿ May 3, 2023 13:59

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

we'll have the worst of all worlds soon enough when acrobat replaces edge's pdf rendering engine

pretty sure it uses the same javascript thing chrome and firefox do (pdfjs?) so it's already worse

# ¿ May 3, 2023 16:11

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

yeah afaik neither the bing button nor the sidebar crap exist within ios edge

# ¿ May 3, 2023 17:36

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

also its funny to me that there are "acceptable" rendering differences across pdf engines at all really. the whole point of the format is consistent output regardless of device

# ¿ May 3, 2023 17:39

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i am janitoring a laptop i haven't used in a real long time and i apparently obliterated the EFI boot entry for windows (it doesn't show up at all in the bios menu)

so i've been booting it by typing in "fs0:\EFI\Boot\bootx64.efi" on startup every time, but that's getting annoying as poo poo. how do i add it back? afaict the recovery console isn't able to find anything wrong because it can boot successfully

# ¿ May 3, 2023 19:40

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

use bootrec /rebuildbcd from the recovery environment or bcdedit if you have to manually create the entry

you probably have to fix the efi partition first though

i'll try that thanks

gotta wait for the battery to run down i guess because it seems that wake from sleep just doesn't work on this thing either and i don't have my tools (at a hotel) lol

# ¿ May 3, 2023 20:30

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

a perfect storm

but yeah, this has most of what you need https://www.dell.com/support/kbdoc/en-ca/000124331/how-to-repair-the-efi-bootloader-on-a-gpt-hdd-for-windows-7-8-8-1-and-10-on-your-dell-pc

there are some weird edge cases that require some additional poo poo to fix the partition but hopefully you're not one of those

yeah i honestly don't remember what i did to get rid of the entry. i think it might be because i had cloned the install to a larger ssd at some point

anyway i'll give it a shot thanks again. i have no idea how long it's gonna take for this thing to drain itself, it's an aliexpress celeron with a giant battery :ohdear:

lol

# ¿ May 3, 2023 20:49

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i loving hate that "something went wrong" is the default error message in pretty much every microsoft product now

just tell me what went wrong you piece of poo poo i know you know

# ¿ May 11, 2023 16:18

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

r u ready to WALK posted:

The truth is probably that they don't know what happened, they just put a try catch statement around the entire code

with the amount of analytics they collect and the log spew that accumulates i don't believe this

# ¿ May 11, 2023 17:08

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

at least let me see what the gently caress the sync log shows so i know why your piece of poo poo software has been stuck syncing a single three kilobyte file for a week and a half

Something went wrong

# ¿ May 11, 2023 17:17

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

cowboy beepboop posted:

my computer was running like poo poo so I "refreshed" my pc and now it's fast and good again. thank you microsorft. also i have slack and outlook in pwas now and it's far better

better than using the native apps? :thunk:

# ¿ May 17, 2023 00:58

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

i wonder if that's where office in general is headed. why add new features when you can reimplement old ones in a pwa

# ¿ May 17, 2023 01:37

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

mystes posted:

the web version of office is surprisingly complete compared to something like google docs but it's still missing a lot of features so I don't think they're in a position where they can deprecate (or stop adding new features to) the desktop versions anytime soon

yeah it's really not that bad at all

but then again i guess the core functionality of most office apps has been more or less the same since like 1997

# ¿ May 17, 2023 01:52

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

infernal machines posted:

WORDSTAR!!!!!!

lmao

# ¿ May 17, 2023 01:58

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Sagebrush posted:

what were you expecting command-return to do instead?

usually in forms where the default action for return is "submit" cmd-return does a newline

# ¿ May 17, 2023 15:49

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

AnimeIsTrash posted:

also lol at tying an office install to a microsoft account

only bonus is if you have an educational account

i'm not an active student anywhere, but i get office 365 for free that way, and i also got my windows 10/11 licenses that way. supposedly the education edition is pro (and has some disabled analytics i guess?) but i converted it to pro workstation, the procedure is absurdly easy. once you do that the license then gets tied to the account and you can use it on any machine to activate so it is actually pretty useful imo

e: to be clear you can change editions without paying anything

# ¿ May 19, 2023 19:33

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Tankakern posted:

but then you end up with windows

which i then use mostly for linux stuff lol

# ¿ May 19, 2023 23:27

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

mystes posted:

the family version of office 365 is pretty decent (multiple installs and 1T onedrive for each of multiple users) especially if you wait to get it when there's a discount

oh i forgot to mention that you get unlimited onedrive storage with an educational account

# ¿ May 20, 2023 02:12

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Shaggar posted:

i did it

even if thats slow as poo poo it's pretty cool

i was trying to get windows 7 to run in qemu on my huawei android phone with similar specs and gave up lol

# ¿ May 26, 2023 16:45

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

Carthag Tuek posted:

do you mean bing or edge

if its edge ok its a thing you can download, but i dont think it has ai?
but if its bing, i think it does have ""ai"" u you also cant download it

unless definitions changed since last

they will probably be the same thing soon enough

# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 19:51

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

firefox on android has ublock yeah. you don't even need to download the extension

works really well even on my ancient huawei

# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 20:43

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

qirex posted:

I think the goal here is to make them so annoying people want them gone, I do wonder if anyone who works at a news site or the like ever actually looks at their site on a phone

they do and hate it (i worked at an abc affiliate for a bit). since there's really nothing anyone can do about it mostly everyone just uses an adblocker

unless they work on ad sales of course, a prison of their own making

# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 20:51

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

qirex posted:

but like what does an executive think when they go to their own site on their phone and the whole screen is four layers of popups and an autoplaying video and you can't actually see the content? I would love to watch a dozen news executives try to use the sites they're in charge of

the station i worked at was owned by hearst. all of their stations' sites have the exact same layout, so they'd really only complain when something seriously broke (either layout or editorial guidelines), which was rare since things were usually just published via a cms with very little control over how a page looks (and of course i never tried to inject js or css or whatever into an article)

i worked on the news/media production side instead of IT so i never really had to deal with them directly, but i got the sense that pretty much nobody at the company (outside of the station) ever bothered to check it

# ¿ Jun 2, 2023 21:06

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# ¿ Apr 26, 2024 23:21

Beeftweeter: Jun 28, 2005; a medium-format picture of beeftweeter staring silently at the camera, a quizzical expression on his face

burning swine posted:

I discovered today that when you copy an image in Teams, instead of an actual image in your clibpboard, you get 3-8MB of base64 text in an <img data="[...]"> tag

so far I haven't discovered anything that can actually parse this on the receiving end

paint and paint.net don't recognize it as an image

word and wordpad just get the html text

onenote crashes as soon as you paste

anyone else remember when internal consistency was the one good thing the windows ecosystem had going for it? goddamn

is it in some nonstandard format or is it just image/png etc? if so there are a billion ways to decode that

# ¿ Jul 5, 2023 22:53

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