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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Safety Factor posted:

Why hello there. :shepspends:

I mean, I've played a decent amount of 30k because between me and the people I know we own a ton of random marine poo poo from the past three decades and don't give a gently caress about the actual models. It's considerably better balanced than 40k, that is just a straight fact. It turns out removing a large amount of the chaff and non-power armored stuff from 40k means that the statistical curve gets much more reasonable on an army to army basis, and in general the whole 30k system is much less focused on formations and free points than 40k is. What you end up with is a more compact game with less outlier rules, a game that's generally more streamlined because the rules that most armies share are increased (since it's like 80% marines), even though every army has probably about 50% too many wargear and weapon options for individual units it tends to usually boil down to mostly basic stuff unless someone REALLY has a boner for weird patterned Ad-Mech guns, etc. I mean, it's still 40k, so it suffers from a rear end-load of issues that are inherent on a system level, but 30k is genuinely as close to a "fixed" version of the modern 40k ruleset as you can produce without completely going back to the drawing board.

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Dec 17, 2010

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Avenging Dentist posted:

It's not really fair to compare Playboy and Games Workshop. One is unwelcoming to women to the point of misogyny and the other produces a pornographic magazine.

Playboy is also, like, weirdly trying to court the modern women demo right now. Their catcalling flowchart was very popular among the tumblr set ( and rightfully so, it's really funny).

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Dec 17, 2010

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TTerrible posted:

Yeah but unless you're running Wordpress or Phpbb you should be fine from random middle/Far East vuln scanning crap. It's staggering incompetence.

Warseer was truly awful.

I don't know how much of this is known on the internet at large but basically they weren't "hacked" per say. The previous dev for the forum was a crazy weirdo who, IIRC, owns the domain name and server and refused to let them buy him out even though he no longer really has any place in the administration nor posts or uses the site. From what I have heard (and I believe this to be true but it may be embellished in some cases) he is kind of unstable (IDK why) and has in the past basically held the site ransom or let it go down because he doesn't care about it. So if you put two and two together from what people who admin WS have said in public you could draw some conclusions about who "attacked" (or possibly was negligent enough to allow it to be attacked) the site and why they don't have access to the database. Last time the site wen't down for a while he was directly responsible and they managed to get it running again through some kind of deal, but who knows.

This is why when your first admin gives up and takes the domain name with him you don't hitch your ride to the first dude who's like "oh yeah, I'll buy us a domain and host this indefinitely for free or something, don't worry about it!". But it was the early 00's and people really didn't understand how to lay effective groundwork for digital communities at the time, and basically everything in the nerd-sphere like that (up and to including big outlets like Gamespot and a lot of game devs) was run by a bunch of friends who swore that they would be BFFs forevsies and no one would ever betray them or get bored with the project.

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Dec 17, 2010

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lilljonas posted:

My main memory of Warseer was when I was banned for putting up WIP pictures (in my own painting log) of terrain pieces, because I also sell some of them and I was not a paying Warseer sponsor. So clearly I deserved to be banned.

gently caress Warseer forever.

Yeah at this point everyone who had any amazing project logs or w/e (Tancrede, Harry, etc) have moved to Oldhammer or LAF.

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Dec 17, 2010

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TTerrible posted:

Haha having the whole thing be rooted in some sadbrains taking their ball home is even better.

This is all with a grain of salt since none of the actual admins have said anything. Wintermute said something to this effect last time the site went down but then deleted it at some point and the people reporting this are obviously friends of the admin team. So it could also be that the guy who is running poo poo is actually totally reasonable and the tales of him vanishing for months on end and letting site issues pile up could actually just be that he's a guy working a normal rear end job like a real human and keeping the site up was a favor he was doing, or he could be the reclusive rear end in a top hat people have alluded to. When the admin of Warseer is involved it could really go either way.

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Dec 17, 2010

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Not to mention GW has been doing 3D printing for their masters and prototypes for around a decade now. They still do some traditionally sculpted stuff but basically they draw up a generic miniature, get it prototyped, and then a sculptor sculpts faces and details onto it. A lot of the plastic rank and file are pure 3D models though, I know the plastic Rat Ogres were the first ever miniatures that were designed and printed entirely on a computer. It's also how Heroclix (the worlds most popular miniatures game) does it's models now as well.

fnordcircle posted:

Just because I don't agree with you and everyone else here doesn't mean I think you're talking out of your rear end. I started in IT when redundancy was a cold-standby media converter and if you had bandwidth utilization issues it meant standing up a second router and switch. Now I'm working on validating autoscaling groups in AWS. I remember the jokes people made on this forum in the mid 2000s about some failed streaming game service and today I read about some service that Playstation is doing to let you play PS3 games 'in the cloud'. Cell phones from the 2000s seem like 1980s tech compared to your middle of the road smartphone of today.

I have no doubt that things as they stand now are a ways off from devastating the manufacturing sector in general, but I see a strong potential for savvy companies to cut out a tremendous amount of overhead by selling DRM'ed, single-use 'recipes' for download rather than having their own manufacturing facilities, delivery contracts, etc. (I think this goes beyond 3d printing and will also involve leveraging the internet of things poo poo and the advent of 'smart' appliances)

But I think there's a real market potential in the 'go on amazon, buy a single use license for use in my smart appliance/3d printer' it's just a decade or two down the line. Should that happen the prevalence of in-home manfuacturing, for lack of a better term, will inevitably give rise to a independent and amateur artists providing tons of free or low-cost hobby poo poo as just one of the ways that our lives would be revolutionized.

Yeah but if this happens they're going to get under cut by GW. Once you have a printer that is accessible to normal people that is a reasonable size GW is going to cut all their stores down to a single small room with a 3D printer in the back, you'll walk inside and get handed an iPad where you'll select all the different components of your miniature and then some poor wage slave will standby while their rack of printers in the back bangs you out your custom Deathfyre Bloodboiler Chariot or whatever.

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Leperflesh posted:

GW once made Epic Armageddon, published the Warhammer Fantasy Roleplaying Game, invented Skaven, did a joint venture with Milton Bradely called HeroQuest, and created the Golden Demon Awards annual convention of painting and gaming.

Ok, the other stuff you said may be true but this isn't, Skaven were just straight up take from Grey Mouser.

Triggered posted:

Compared to the normal GW prices the boxes they are offering now seem to pretty cheap.

Go google what the old Battalion Boxes used to contain circa 4th Ed compared to what they have now and be sad.

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Dec 17, 2010

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Leperflesh posted:

Other properties had ratmen, sure, but GW invented the skaven as a culture in their game, is what I meant.

And yeah, GW's new boxes are only "cheap" compared to regular GW prices. Remember, GW never ever puts its stuff on sale, whereas every other manufacturer's products are available at discount, at least occasionally. So you can't just compare MSRP.

No I mean all the Skaven stuff is in that Leiber story. The Bell is there, the council of rat wizards, the whole "assassinate people to keep them from discovering the secret rat kingdom", the ancient conspiracy to conquer the above world that is held back by the bickering and infighting in the rat kingdom, basically the only difference is that in the Leiber story is that they are normal rat sized and the heroes get shrunk to ratman size. I guess also when they rise up to conquer the city the heroes summon ancient cat gods that devour them because Leiber has a really weird sense of humor.

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Dec 17, 2010

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2nd Edition was a garbage game and if you like it more than 3rd your mom must have repeatedly smashed your head into a brick wall as an infant. It's hideously broken, has one of the worst hand to hand systems ever written in a mass market wargame, had terrible vehicle rules and every game took hours to play even though you were using like a third of the miniatures you'd use in 3rd or 4th. People just like it because they have the rosiest tinted glasses for it and like a lot of nerds are unable to divorce the ideas of "b-b-b-b-but I liiiike this thing" and "this thing is a bad game made poorly".

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Dec 17, 2010

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Proving that once again miniatures are a garbage hobby for garbage people, there's two people on the minipainting subreddit right now getting into a fight because one of them described Asian people as "Orientals". And people ask me why I am worried about the new Studio Tomahawk game set in the Congo...

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Bistromatic posted:

I left the Dropzone Commander facebook because a guy was making a nazi themed army complete with SS on his helicopters. When i told him that i'm german and would refuse to play against him he told me that as a german i should be proud of the discipline and skill of the german forces in WW2. And of course the only thing the mods did was delete "overly critical" comments.

Yeah stuff like this has happened a few times on LAF. They have a zero tolerance policy for any Nazi iconography for the same reason you cant have swastikas in YouTube thumbnails: they have servers based in Germany and in Germany it's illegal to display Swastikas outside of a very narrow historical context (that miniatures in non-museum displays have actually run afoul of before, shockingly enough). Usually people just pixelate them when it comes to legit historical stuff but people have been banned for putting SS decals on space marine tanks and such.

When I used to paint miniatures as my main source of income, I mostly did historicals and trains because that's where the money is. And as part of that I straight up told people that anywhere there was supposed to be a swastika I would put an Iron Cross because I just wasn't willing to step into that whole mess and I couldn't control who was buying from me and I didn't want stuff I painted up getting used by actual neo-nazis or Wehraboo apologists. I actually turned down a contract for about two grand once because I just wasn't comfortable with it. This guy, who def gave me some creepy vibes, had built and wanted me to paint a set of miniatures and an entire tables worth of terrain he had done for a wargame he wrote about the Battle for Berlin. It was all extremely well done and it was about three hundred figs, but it was full of just the grimmest stuff. He had made a system where each game you got randomized objectives and some of the ideas behind it were really cool, like for instance in one of them you had a group of Hitler Youth who had to locate civilian clothes so they could escape, or similar things. But I just didn't think I could handle painting objective markers with SS officers pinning medals onto 14 year old HJ members before they all went and died to the Russians, etc

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spectralent posted:

As has been mentioned, most actual nazi tanks weren't festooned with swastikas either, so I always find those a bit suspect. It does give problems with the finnish hook-cross*, though, since unfortunately "It's not that swastika" has been a thing nazis have used since forever. At least finland's got the roundel/white-and-blue bars to use instead though.

*Ironically finnish tanks often were covered in swastikas since most of them had been nicked off the soviets and "cover your tank in national markers" is one of the really common friendly-fire avoidance methods when you're using captured tanks.

Yeah, my field of study is actually terrorism and so I have a giant booklet we got a while back that was compiled by the FBI and SPLC and is basically the hundred plus different "totally not a swastikas" that Neo-Nazi groups in Europe use. You've got your South African Triskele, you Celtic Triskele, your Confederate flag, etc. The one that's starting to pop up more and more, especially in the UK is the eagle emblem of the Selous Scouts as we enter into a new era where we're starting to see a general lionization of Rhodesia in the eyes of modern, white, first worlders.

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spectralent posted:

Aww, jeez, I've seen a guy with that thing on the bus :smith:

I don't really have much to do with him but I just assumed it was a heavy metal icon or something.

There's some crossover, people who are not racists do use things like the Celtic triskelion, valknut and odal rune, especially metalheads and pagans. And it varies from region to region, in Europe the odal rune, for instance, isn't usually associated with Neo Nazism but in the US where Germanic neo-paganism and Asatru are heavily associated with white prison gangs and neo-nazi skinheads they are often labeled as racist symbols. Same goes with mjolnir pendants, they are worn by racists and non-racists alike, but if you see one of them being worn by a guy with specific tattoos and stuff you can make a very educated guess on his opinions about things like race realism.

The South African one is just racist through and through though. Although IIRC there is some Industrial band that has a logo that is VERY similar, probably because semi-ironically to completely unironically adopting Fascist iconography is sort of a thing in that scene.

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Dec 17, 2010

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Or from Warlord:
https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-army/products/german-build-an-army

https://us-store.warlordgames.com/collections/german-army/products/german-grenadiers-starter-army

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Dec 17, 2010

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I tend to end up playing Nazis in most WWII games because they are usually stereotypically cast as the expensive elite assault oriented force with cool tanks which is A) The kind of force I like to play and B) Units tend to be more expensive points wise so they tend to be the cheapest armies to run (I got into FoW playing the all Tiger SS Panzer company because it was most of an army with five tanks and some infantry dudes). Also at least in my neck of the woods most players always trended towards Americans or weird stuff like Finns and Italians so Wehrmacht and SS were usually the open slots in the "no one else is playing this" column.

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Numlock posted:

This is basically the reason my group dropped SAGA after initially going all in on it for about two months, we figured out that if we just kept the good dice we could setup all the best attacks on the battle board before doing anything. So the first few turns were people just rolling dice to try to get 6's and kiteing their units around until they had the best combo's ready to go. We didn't last long enough to try the newer expansions but it looked like there was some crazy power creep with them.

The game worked well if you didn't put any thought into optimization and just ran your dudes right into the other guys's dudes ASAP so if that is all you wanted out of the game SAGA is great. But not the game for me or my group because we are unrepentant tournament oriented players. This might have changed in the time since then, I think that a big way of solving that problem would have been to require that players use or lose their dice unless its a defensive ability activated on the opponent's turn.

A lot of historical games have this problem, in order to simulate fog of war and other difficulties they put in some sort of mechanic that could possibly result in your army doing nothing or something worse but I just find it unfun as hell.

I've played a lot of SAGA so I want to address a few things about this:

1) Yes this is true, but you can also build armies that punish people heavily for doing this. You can use low cost ranged units to punish people for turtle strategies, especially if someone is going to run any list with strong mounted archery or the High King list from the base book.
2) There isn't really much power creep. The expansions mostly introduce armies that play very differently to the base book factions which are generally supposed to be the all arounder lists that are pretty balanced. Anglo Danes, High King, and the unified Anglo Dane/Viking lists from the base book are some of the stronger lists in the game. Many of the later lists also address some issues you mention earlier, Jomsviking are the faction that explicitly doesn't care about dice spread and can break turtle lists by just savaging them with elite troops that don't take very much damage. Basically all the armies that focus on a heavy mix of troops are also good at punishing this, Byzantines and Rus are especially good at running dudes down or corralling them into ambushes. Northern Fury focuses on lists that use alternate activation mechanics like Saxons and Joms. Bretons are the short range shooting focused army, and their levies can absolutely annihilate with ranged combat.

Like, I don't want to say you were playing the game wrong because I haven't seen you guys play, but you sound a bit like people I hear complain about how OP snipers are in Infinity when they don't do busy enough table layouts. The threat range for most mounted units, and the fact that you can bring large amounts of shooting in most lists for very little points and the fact that you're on a 3x3 table means that you shouldn't be getting kited for an entire game until someone is able to camp enough dice to wombocombo you.

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Dec 17, 2010

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A lot of the warbands they added after the first book have very different ways of using the battle board, especially the ones in Northern Fury. Saxons are the Horde army, they don't need to use the activation pool to activate units with 10 or more members. It's extremely good at rooting out turtle lists because they can constantly keep attacking with big units of warriors and levies as they have mostly abilities that buff big units in combat. Jomsviking use wrath as their mechanic, you basically have abilities that either trigger effects or gain you wrath (your opponent chooses) and then a couple of abilities that let you spend wrath to produce absolutely massive amounts of combat dice. Also the whole army is Hearthguards. Bretons are the ranged combat army, they mostly suicide big units of shooters close by and then use all their good shooting abilities. Notably they are the army that gets to use fatigue when shooting. The Ravens Shadow warbands also introduce some similar mechanics. Franks have the most customization options and also have abilities that get more powerful when you are camping large amounts of dice, I don't like them much but Roland and Charlemagne are real good and the Merovingian variant get mounted berserkers. Irish are pretty boring IMHO and they have low armor but they get units of single dudes who are wandering unkillable asskickers which is a neat gimmick but not very good. Norse Gaels duel people, they get bonuses and buffs for winning duels and can use challenges to control where your opponent goes and to force him to fight. My buddy plays their theme list which is a bunch of wizard pirates and is really awesome but ultimately very difficult to use well. Strath Welsh are ambushers and use alternate deployment, they sweep in from board edges on mounts and hit you in the back, they aren't great in a real fight however. Pagan Rus are the lockdown faction, they stop you from doing poo poo and then overwhelm you, Fear of the Dark is maybe the best ability in the entire game (it lets you auto exhaust a unit that is more than M away from any other unit). The Rus Princes list is mainly the heavy combat mounted list, I've never seen anyone play it ever. The Byzantines are probably the best army in the game, if I were to point one army as being actually unbalanced it might be them, they are really strong overall and have few weaknesses. They also added Nomad Mercenaries at some point, they are fast moving mounted archers that are good at drive-by shooting dudes and then running away, also basically the only good mercenary unit.

Also technically Crescent and Cross is a soft second edition for SAGA. It's considered the "correct" edition to use rules wise and does clarify some stuff, mostly about unit cohesion. I don't have a huge amount of experience with C&C warbands (mostly just the Christian militia one) but they tend to have more options overall than your default SAGA forces and in general are a bit more flexible. The addition of priests and dogs of war (greatly expanded Mercenary units) is cool as well and priests go pretty well into several of the other SAGA bands. Specifically Warrior Priests give good options for keeping your army mobile and dealing damage.

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Dec 17, 2010

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BULBASAUR posted:

You really make me want to play this game

You can play it in 15/18mm or 1/72/20mm for real cheap.

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Dec 17, 2010

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thatbastardken posted:

the american opossum is ironically far less dangerous than the common brushtail possum. those fuckers will wreck you with those claws.

I think I mentioned this before somewhere, but opossums are actually too stupid to get rabies. Because their brains are so small they don't have to circulate blood as quickly as most mammals of their size, this means that their body temperature is also considerably cooler than other similarly sized mammals. Because their blood is so chilly, most types of rabies can't survive inside them and just die.

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Jeb Bush 2012 posted:

Then they figured it out a third time and the forbidden lore of competent game design destroyed their minds, so they created the age of sigmar

Please, Bo5A wasn't that good.

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Dec 17, 2010

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SynthOrange posted:

Fluxxx or Warhammer?

Depends, basic just basic Fluxx? Because Zombie Fluxx is at least slightly more coherent of a game than normal Fluxx.

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Gravitas Shortfall posted:

Fluxx is not a good game but it's over quick and is pretty cheap, so fluxx all the way

If you go to a game store looking for a fast and casual fun card game in that price range and you somehow leave with Fluxx instead of Love Letter something has gone horribly wrong.

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The Bee posted:

I would unironically love Deadliest Warrior: The Tabletop Wargame.

History Channel basically made this. It was a grid based wargame played with cards (kind of similar to Tash Kalar) called Anachronism. I remember it being kind of swingy but the production values were very high and I bought some of it when it came down to ultra clearance prices. You can still grab it places like Hills or eBay for cheap if you're curious. IDK why you'd play it with miniatures but you totally could if you wanted to.

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Iceclaw posted:

Try again without ridiculous internet buzzwords like Mary Sue? I mean, yeah, fully trained Jedi are supposed to be in universe super powerful, though that's a lifetime commitment. So what?

Ah yes, that Internet Buzzword that predates the internet by decades.

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Atlas Hugged posted:

I feel like the Judge Dredd phase and the psychedelic phase were really just two ends of the same era. It started off as a hard satire that was borrowing heavily from other sources and then through 2nd edition it tried to forge its own identity, but its roots and influences were still very obvious. 3e is the real shift where it changes from a satire to being grim-dark, but it was at least ambiguous about whether or not the Imperium were the good guys. Somewhere around 5e is when things started to be taken at face value and the Imperium became the good guys.

They weren't even the ends of the same era. 40k wasn't just based on Dredd but more on 2000AD as a whole. 40k was HEAVILY inspired by Nemesis The Warlock. The main difference between 40k and Nemesis is that in Nemesis the Imperium/Emperor are the villains. This influence really continued pretty heavily up until like 4th ed or so, since most of Blanche's 40k art is pretty much him drawing stuff in the style of Nemesis. The marines are also pretty clearly influenced by Rogue Trooper and ABC Warriors (especially a certain 40k Assassin).

2000AD is a very interesting beast and it goes a long way towards explaining why 40k is the way it is. Basically all their comics were sort of tongue and cheek ironic satires of fascism/the police state/Thatcher era Britain/Racist politics/etc but in order to do that within the actual universe of each comic everything must be taken absolutely dead seriously. That was sort of what makes it work, that no one ever looks and winks at the camera, the characters in the story treat everything with a unflinching lack of irony which is what, you know, makes the irony work so well. There have always been fans of 2000AD that didn't "get" the irony angle of it, but it permeates the whole thing so well that you'd have to be pretty loving dumb not to. I think as we moved away from the 80's and British culture itself shifted into an area of taking things that were always meant to be goofy and a little bit dumb far too seriously (the Dr. Who reboot for one), there became this idea that you couldn't have both something that was a serious property for serious people and also have it be ironic or silly in any way. Combine that with the fact that, lets be real here, nerds are pretty loving tone deaf when it comes to fascist/extremist/sexist overtones in things (look at Frank Miller fans), it doesn't shock me in any way that the people currently in charge of 40k don't really "get" what made the setting interesting in the first place.

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Dec 17, 2010

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CB is a little tone deaf when it comes to basing large sections of their fluff on real world peoples/religions and not really doing their research very well.

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Business Gorillas posted:

4chan for the first and jrr Tolkien being a racist/antisemite for the second

Tolkein actually wasn't an anti-semite, although many racists have certainly taken his works that way. He was a big admirer of Jewish culture and an avowed anti-racist and absolutely hated the Nazis for using Norse myth and legend as part of their justifications for anti-semetism and racism. Not that he didn't have opinions and leanings that aren't exactly acceptable today, but by the standards of his time and contemporary authors he was fairly chill. I think also a lot of it is internalized racism, there's definitely something to be said for connections between the humans serving the evil empire all coming from middle east and north Africa and Tolkein having fought in WWI (Hmmmm, the enemies are a fallen noble European esque power, his formerly good and now corrupted toady and a horde of men from the east...).

Ashcans posted:

Eh. Gollywogs were popular and accepted in the UK until the early 1980s, and even well after that. That isn't to say there was anything defensible about the Pygmy line, just that the UK was cool with lovely stuff for longer than you might think.

This just reminds me of an Ashens video where he's reviewing Green Lantern figures and he gets to Kilowog and his immediate response is "What's that? The SI standard unit of racism?"

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Liquid Communism posted:

Dwarves may be paranoid and stingy, but they'd drink a beer with you and yell at the footy.

Elves think your very existence is gauche. ruin the neighborhood with their mohawks and motorbikes.

Fixed that for you

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Dec 17, 2010

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Or, or, or, you could just get yourself a calzone.

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Xarbala posted:

Well the Urbie and Awesome were both by Loose so the guy had some good ideas. And you have to respect the audacity of someone deciding to just put a blimp on robot legs.

Much like how even in Star Trek, I have to respect a giant greebled-up cube that gives absolutely no fucks.

Well the cube at least makes sense in a lore perspective. The Borg have no reason to care about aesthetics or anything beyond utility and carrying capacity, of course they would drive the Scion XB of spaceships.

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TLOS works in games like Napoleonics where you're just drawing lines between squares and in certain low count skirmish games where actually using real positioning and real terrain can be fun if not a bit gimmicky. But once you start going into the zone where you have more robust characters than just normal soldiers with normal soldier stuff you desperately need abstraction.

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Leperflesh posted:

Space Marine armor is incredibly, incredibly stupid, though. I mean it really is.

The thing is that in setting it literally doesn't matter. The vast amount of marines fight either chaos Marines (IE people with identical equipment) or heretics and rebels (IE people with weapons that can't even damage them). Marines don't even really need guns, they could wreck most of the enemies of the Imperium with their bare hands. There's a lot to be said for the marines (at least in the start of 40k lore and when handled by FFG) being a pretty on point satire of modern NATO military culture where we build billions of dollars in the worlds most advanced tanks, fighter jets and missiles in order to fight guys using stolen cold war munitions who live in caves. They exist as the shining example of the peak of a fascist police state. A knightly order of paramilitary police who swear loyalty to the fascist dictator, absolutely drowning in insane advanced weaponry coated in gaudy symbols of fascism and heraldry. The normal forces of the Imperium use equipment that's barely better than modern Cold War era munitions and the Marines use guns that are fully automatic RPG launchers. Hell the Marines are horrible sterile golem-men stuffed full of steroids and implanted bone plates and yet are the most pure examples of humanity defending it from "heretics" and "outsiders". Them wearing stupid armor that is wildly impracticable makes a lot of sense.

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I use Montana Gold, which is a pretty great acrylic spray for doing base coats. I mean, you're gonna be washing and highlighting it up anyways, color matching isn't the most important. Also their online color chart is extremely accurate, which is a rarity, since even Vallejo's is a bit off sometimes. I did an entire gaggle of SS armor for FoW using mostly Rusto 2X white primer, Montana Gold spray and some Minwax and it came out pretty great.

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Dec 17, 2010

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The original Mageknight system is actually an extremely well done game and is full of things that greatly influenced a ton of modern wargames. It just killed itself when they realized that the idea of making rare figures better and milking people for cash to buy cases and cases of boosters was a much more effective method of making money then actually producing a balanced game. Crimson Skies was also pretty great but ultimately doomed, and Shadowrun was a neat idea, but I only played it maybe a dozen times because, holy poo poo, an action figure scale wargame takes up a assload of space. Figures are really nice though and probably the best pieces of SR merch ever made, so that's cool.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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LordAba posted:

The PS3 thing wouldn't be an issue if they didn't use the crappiest solder in the universe so the original backward compatible ones only lasted something like 2 years.
I'll have to see if there is an easy way of extracting the PS2 ROM and just start emulating the games.

PCSX2 can just read PS2 discs from your drive IIRC.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Moola posted:

Guys what scale are the models in twilight creations Zombies!!! game?

can't tell if they're 15 or 25mm

They're a fat 1/72. If you're looking for figs to go with them they match reasonably well with some of the Caesar stuff pretty well (Caesar is usually a bit above 23mm, the Zombies figs are around 24mm). They're more in scale with metal 1/72 than plastics, but they'd look fine as long as you put your other figures on really tall bases because the Zombies!! figs are on extremely tall ones.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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I honestly think if anything is going to make a serious splash in the fantasy minis market it's if the rumored kickstarter for a third edition of Warlord and a Warlord Bones line ever materialize. Warlord is a game that's pretty much in scale with 5th ed and earlier WHFB, where most units were ten dudes and you played with maybe forty models total on the table. If all those minis (or at least just all the major troop choices) cost bones prices or had bones alternatives to the normal metal ones that could be a game that would get HUGE. It's been kicking around the rumor mill for a while now, so who knows if it's going to show up, I know around when AoS came out one of my local shops was talking to the rep from Reaper about ordering in books or minis for Warlord and if they had any kind of promo stuff to get the word out and the guy said something along the lines of "there's going to be big news regarding Warlord next year" but I have no idea what that meant.

El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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Isn't Dominion pretty much just MTG's rules clarity with Eurogame sensibility?

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El Estrago Bonito
Dec 17, 2010

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The answer to the question of "what game should I teach people new to board games" is Formula D, it's always been Formula D.

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