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Asiina posted:We don't really know why he went to PMach. Could be lack of options. Still didn't really clear her as town even with that power. I don't really have a good answer, but I feel like his "just for fun" explanation makes no sense at all. There's wanting to have fun and there's actively making the bad decision, and there is absolutely no reason he would give up his rolecop for a roleblock. Roleblocks aren't really more "fun" than a rolecop and then it means he gets to do nothing N3 which is a whole lot less fun than being able to do anything. The excuse absolutely doesn't hold up. Here you are still trying to use your own logic to say what I would or wouldn't do or have a reason to do and telling me what's more fun to me to boot.
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Asiina posted:We don't really know why he went to PMach. Could be lack of options. Still didn't really clear her as town even with that power. I don't really have a good answer, but I feel like his "just for fun" explanation makes no sense at all. There's wanting to have fun and there's actively making the bad decision, and there is absolutely no reason he would give up his rolecop for a roleblock. Roleblocks aren't really more "fun" than a rolecop and then it means he gets to do nothing N3 which is a whole lot less fun than being able to do anything. The excuse absolutely doesn't hold up. I dunno, if the lie detect thing had been mentioned that would have cleared her in my eyes. I guess in fairness I was already leaning towards believing her though since I felt like she was really talking to pmush. The rest I agree with though, it doesn't make a lot of sense.
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Asiina posted:I'm not saying he didn't visit PMach, I'm saying his actions N2 make absolutely zero sense as claimed. Ahh gotcha, I kind of misread your post in I thought it said 'We don't really know if CPig went to Pmach.'
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CapitalistPig posted:Here you are still trying to use your own logic to say what I would or wouldn't do or have a reason to do and telling me what's more fun to me to boot. Yes, I'm using logic to say something doesn't make sense. I like how you're trying to paint that as a bad thing though.
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Asiina posted:Yes, I'm using logic to say something doesn't make sense. No the bad thing is that you as asiina don't think it makes sense and I as cpig am telling you it makes perfect sense for me, the person who actually did it and thought it was more fun because rolecop is his least favorite role after vt and is on par with doc in how I feel about it. The person who is know to do things that make no sense just because he feels it's more fun. You know , to HIM not you.
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CapitalistPig posted:No the bad thing is that you as asiina don't think it makes sense and I as cpig am telling you it makes perfect sense for me, the person who actually did it and thought it was more fun because rolecop is his least favorite role after vt and is on par with doc in how I feel about it. "Least favourite role AFTER VT" Yet you would still choose to do nothing during N3 rather than have something to do N2, N3, and N4.
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Oct 23, 2016 00:50
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Asiina posted:"Least favourite role AFTER VT" Yes
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Oct 23, 2016 00:59
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I'm not really known for thinking ahead.
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Oct 23, 2016 01:00
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Explains our totally owning that skeleton boss. (too much?)
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Oct 23, 2016 01:02
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Asiina posted:Explains our totally owning that skeleton boss. Nah
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I think you're doing a great job, I just couldn't miss the opportunity. ur still a scumbo tho
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Asiina posted:I think you're doing a great job, I just couldn't miss the opportunity. Nah ur wrong.
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Votecount for Day 4  CapitalistPig (1): Asiina TMMadman (1): Snooze Cruise Snooze Cruise (1): King Burgundy Not Voting (4): CapitalistPig, DickBastardly, Quidthulhu, TMMadmanWith 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 24th, 2016 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 1 day, 18 hours.
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Oct 23, 2016 07:41
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votefinder posted:Votecount for Day 1 Somberbrero posted:Final Votecount for Day 2 Podima posted:Votecount for Day 3 It's not shown here but I hammered Pod D3. Based solely on voting correlation, KB, Asiina and TMM seem likely scumbros. I know this is low-effort but going back to analyze this game is.. I'll put it this way, there's a lot going on.
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Votecount for Day 4 CapitalistPig (1): Asiina TMMadman (1): Snooze Cruise Snooze Cruise (1): King Burgundy Not Voting (4): CapitalistPig, DickBastardly, Quidthulhu, TMMadman With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 24th, 2016 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 20 hours, 30 minutes. Our powers are great and our sight is keen, but we cannot know the secrets of the deep past and we will not dishonor you by claiming we do. How this world came to be, and how we came to be in it, is a matter only of conjecture. But this is what our wisest believe.
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DickBastardly posted:It's not shown here but I hammered Pod D3. Based solely on voting correlation, KB, Asiina and TMM seem likely scumbros. I know this is low-effort but going back to analyze this game is.. I'll put it this way, there's a lot going on. How do you come to this conclusion? Asiina wasn't part of the D1 lynch and I wasn't part of the D3 lynch (although I would have been). Frankly, I'm more suspicious of you since you weren't part of the D1 lynch when you voted late and not for Snooze and then also weren't part of the D2 lynch when you kept your vote on Snooze for most of the day. Scum often don't want to be on the lynch of town too often or help lynch a scumbro on D1. Quite honestly, if it weren't for your power, I would be extremely worried about you and even knowing it, I am still slightly suspicious.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Asiina can't be the roleblocker, she knew kb was doc, and tmm used empower tracker to prove her visit on ssv n1. Role blocker wouldn't visit ssv twice. Waaaaaait This is a pair that could be lying together. FV could had never visited ssv. They nk2 so asiina and kb clear each other and fv poisoned ssv while then while one of the others rb pod. Asiina really did visit ssv n1 for some reason, and got lucky when tmm track her.
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So I claim nobody visited KB right at the beginning of the day today because? Because that is an insanely risky claim to make with all the possible movers if I'm not actually a watcher.
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Oct 24, 2016 07:06
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Quid really needs to claim his action last night. I posted this already but I don't think it went through.
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Asiina posted:So I claim nobody visited KB right at the beginning of the day today because? It's a possibility and one of the few scenarios that works so far
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TMMadman posted:How do you come to this conclusion? Asiina wasn't part of the D1 lynch and I wasn't part of the D3 lynch (although I would have been). Frankly, I'm more suspicious of you since you weren't part of the D1 lynch when you voted late and not for Snooze and then also weren't part of the D2 lynch when you kept your vote on Snooze for most of the day. Scum often don't want to be on the lynch of town too often or help lynch a scumbro on D1. Asiina voted for a town D1, "although you would have" voted D3 doesn't explain why you didn't and I already explained why my D1 vote was hosed up (in short, I didn't realize how close we were to deadline and was reading the frenzy of posts when I read BK's "vote SSV or risk no lynch post" so I dropped that vote literally the last minute while everyone else switched to snooze). You should (you do) know what my power is, what it does, and that it's a pro-town role. My read is just based on voting correlation, which I freely admitted was weak.
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DickBastardly posted:It's not shown here but I hammered Pod D3. Based solely on voting correlation, KB, Asiina and TMM seem likely scumbros. I know this is low-effort but going back to analyze this game is.. I'll put it this way, there's a lot going on. So you think there are 3 scum left in this game? 4 scum total in a 13 player game? Also, if I'm following your reasoning, you think scum will all vote together?
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Snooze Cruise posted:Also kb would had a good reason to kill poison Why would I want to kill Pmush?
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You know for all of Asiinas talk about playing logically, why didn't she watch SSV during N3? Given that KB had been exposed as the doctor who visited SSV during N2 and typically doctors can't protect the same person 2 nights in a row, so I'd think it'd make more sense to watch the mod confirmed town on N3 since Asiina had already proven she can visit the same person on consecutive days.
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TMMadman posted:You know for all of Asiinas talk about playing logically, why didn't she watch SSV during N3? Given that KB had been exposed as the doctor who visited SSV during N2 and typically doctors can't protect the same person 2 nights in a row, so I'd think it'd make more sense to watch the mod confirmed town on N3 since Asiina had already proven she can visit the same person on consecutive days. It was a crap shoot and I guessed wrong. I figured KB has been more active and would be a bigger threat. SSV was confirmed town but also had been almost entirely absent during the day, so when thinking about who were potential NK targets my mind went to the active doctor. And I can visit the same person on consecutive nights so it didn't really occur to me during the night that he couldn't. Also also fun tidbit is that I actually give Somber my actions via facebook chat and told Somber I wanted to watch him and Somber said yes but that I should pick someone else just for fun, so I picked KB. True story.
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I can't be around at deadline tonight, I'll be gaming. Would be awesome if we could figure this out before then.
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TMMadman posted:You know for all of Asiinas talk about playing logically, why didn't she watch SSV during N3? Given that KB had been exposed as the doctor who visited SSV during N2 and typically doctors can't protect the same person 2 nights in a row, so I'd think it'd make more sense to watch the mod confirmed town on N3 since Asiina had already proven she can visit the same person on consecutive days. Yeah, I can see the reasons for her to watch me even though it turned out to be the wrong choice. If Snooze is scum though, they really don't need to worry about me, since he can just redirect me wherever or their roleblocker can block me. From that perspective, I would think Asiina would actually be one of the most worrisome people left for them if she's town since she would see those actions too.
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Votecount for Day 4 CapitalistPig (1): Asiina TMMadman (1): Snooze Cruise Snooze Cruise (1): King Burgundy Not Voting (4): CapitalistPig, DickBastardly, Quidthulhu, TMMadman With 7 alive, it's 4 votes to execute. The current deadline is October 24th, 2016 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 5 hours, 55 minutes. Before time was time, there was no world, but this world came to be. How it was built, we know not, but the same power that made it and sustains it lies within you.
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Hey Somber can you prod Quid. I really want to figure this out, but it sucks missing a piece of the puzzle.
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Sorry guys, I have been really sick all weekend. Did a lot of sleeping and not a lot of anything else. I attempted to give my stump-creator item to Dick because he's the only person I am like 100% sure is town. Unfortunately, I was roleblocked, so I wasn't able to do anything.
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Snooze Cruise posted:The flavor i received was weird. Snooze Cruise posted:Pig you don't happen to just void any actions on you? Snooze Cruise posted:Oh wait I'm an idiot who wasn't reading the thread, lmao. TMMadman posted:Why would your action 'fail' if you redirect someone to the target they already chose? Snooze Cruise posted:Dunno. It seems like it would be the cause still since both events happen. This is a really strange walkback. Possible that Snooze forgot her scum-buddy roleblocked me and had to really quickly shift gears since I could counteract that?
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Snooze Cruise posted:Also i really am a loving idiot, i was thinking about redirecting pig to machine, but i decided on quid instead. LOL what???? The story changes even more? What is this nonsense
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Snooze Cruise posted:Assume everything TMM has said has been true. The other option here is you are lying about the nights you were roleblocked and didn't go anywhere. You could be some weird scum JOAT for all we know and only able to redirect the first night, and have been doing weird stuff / not going anywhere the other nights. I am not buying Snooze's delineation here.
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Yeah, caught up now. I was thinking there had to be some sort of role-fuckery occurring in order to explain why Snooze is claiming RB'd, and I was maybe buying that "redirect onto someone who was already that person's target" would have been a fail, but if she's claiming to have targeted me....that makes no sense. ##vote Snooze
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WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT UNLESS........ Maybe since I was RB'd and couldn't go anywhere, she couldn't go anywhere??? So she got a fail message? ##unvote I have to hurm about this. Hurm. Can you be, like, incredibly specific with your message, Snooze.
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Also why were you redirecting me? I basically had said yesterday I was going to be giving out that stump maker to someone so we could check on PMach's claim eventually. Why would you mess with that? What was your goal in redirecting me? And who were you redirecting me to?
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Okay so I'm pretty sure this is completely up to date. Role claims: Moving roles: Asiina - Watcher Capps - Redirector Madman - Tracker CPig - Even night rolecop Dick - Empowerer fv - claimed jailer/roleblocker, actually godfather/poisoner (confirmed) KB - Doctor Quid - Inventor PMush - Mason recruiter (confirmed) Non-moving roles BK - Miller (confirmed) Pod - Tactician (confirmed) PMach - Necromancer (confirmed) SSV - Innocent (confirmed) N1 Asiina watches SSV, sees fv Capps Redirects Madman to PMush Madman sees "fv" visit CPig, but was actually PMush CPig - nothing Dick empowers Madman fv visits SSV KB doctors fv Quid gives an item (janitored vig) to Madman and an item (roleblock) to CPig N2 Asiina watches SSV, sees KB Capps is roleblocked Madman tracks Asiina N1 to SSV CPig Roleblocks Capps Dick empowers CPig fv - ???? KB doctors SSV Quid gives an item to Dick Pod's action failed (roleblocked) N3 Asiina watched KB, nobody visited Capps was roleblocked (tried to redirect pig to quid) Madman tracked CPig to PMach CPig Rolecops PMach Dick empowers PMach KB doctors Madman Quid was roleblocked (tried to give item to Dick)
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