Can't you turn taxes off as Norsca? That would be a -4 gone which should let you ride out the event, unless you'd then have to disband too much of your army to afford upkeep. But you probably have some provinces where you don't need to turn off taxes to avoid a rebellion, and you lose the income anyway if the settlement gets raded by rebels.
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Gay Horney posted:What's gonna be my best bet as Throgg for early units to fight chariots? Surtha Ek showed up with ten chariots and a mammoth and butchered my starting army. It's turn 7 or so, so I just have access to marauders, spearmen, and javelins. IIRC javelins were really strong at least a few patches ago but it seems like they're not gonna be the best bet for fighting chariots. Do I want to spam spears or am I better off waiting for hounds? Spears seem like the best bet; anti large which I believe chariots count as, and they get defense against charge. Javelins to back them up. Berzerkers never hurt.
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Staltran posted:Can't you turn taxes off as Norsca? That would be a -4 gone which should let you ride out the event, unless you'd then have to disband too much of your army to afford upkeep. But you probably have some provinces where you don't need to turn off taxes to avoid a rebellion, and you lose the income anyway if the settlement gets raded by rebels. You can, and it helps. The key tho is to always be sacking and raiding and you can ride out any budget deficit. Current at the end of my Norsca campaign I was losing 20k with like seven or eight stacks a turn but had 500k in the bank. Cities give so much for sacking it'll keep you going forever. Edit; after I kicked the Everchosen's rear end I went from -20k to +20k income. I cannot be stopped.
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Playing Skaven for the first time seriously and I dunno if this is an SFO thing, but their infantry is much weightier and more capable than i remember, especially Clanrat Shields with a few ranks of exp. haven’t even unlocked any monsters or tier three infantry yet, but I have been using Queek and an assassin to great effect, Queek solos ork lords like they’re nothing Any Skaven tips people might have in general? I’m trying to fight the dwarf hold to the south but they’re as powerful as me with six settlements with their one, which I need to get my economy off the ground as it seems most Skaven buildings only generate 80 gold. Am I supposed to supplement that with raiding and sacking, as a general rule? Should I use slaves for garrisons in places where it’s a public order thing as they’re cheap?
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The latest:quote:It’s going to be a quiet few months from us in the Fantasy New Content Team while we scheme and plot beneath the surface. We vow to resurface soon, and when we do expect some cold-blooded and explosive content… but of course that’s after the release of the highly anticipated THREE KINGDOMS from our comrades in the Historical Team! Mordja fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Jan 30, 2019 |
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Frog Act posted:Any Skaven tips people might have in general? Im trying to fight the dwarf hold to the south but theyre as powerful as me with six settlements with their one, which I need to get my economy off the ground as it seems most Skaven buildings only generate 80 gold. Am I supposed to supplement that with raiding and sacking, as a general rule? Should I use slaves for garrisons in places where its a public order thing as theyre cheap? Skaven's entire thing is large amounts of cannon fodder tiring out the enemy so your elites can mop things up. I often have an entire army or two of slaves (later clan rats when you can afford it) who get used to just swarm the opponents and hold them in place while my main stack's artillery blasts away at the mass. You'll kill a lot of your own guys, but you hit theirs too, so no worries. In the early game my "main" army will often be smaller than the supporting stacks, to be honest. Queek and a warpfire engineer, a couple artillery pieces, and some Stormvermin to protect it for maybe 10-12 units total compared to the full stacks of fodder supporting him. It's hard to wrap your head around at first since it's different for most other races, but entire armies are expendable as long as you win. For the economy, again you should be mostly using support armies of slaves/clanrats, which cost basically nothing, to help get you off the ground. You can definitely supplement that with raiding and sacking other settlements, using the underway helps for that. I don't really worry about public order too much. I try to minimize things so that rebellions aren't happening every other turn, but rebellions are a good thing since they provide your lords XP (and loyalty) and you can eat the captives for a food boost. When you really get rolling money isn't an issue and you can have stacks of all elite units but that's way, way, later. It sounds like you're Clan Mors? It can be easier to go east first against the undead/lizards for the gold mine out there instead of south against that dwarf faction.
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Mordja posted:The latest: It's very lame that Lizardmen and Skaven will have gone without RoR, new units and lords for likely 18+ months.
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Gay Horney posted:What's gonna be my best bet as Throgg for early units to fight chariots? Surtha Ek showed up with ten chariots and a mammoth and butchered my starting army. It's turn 7 or so, so I just have access to marauders, spearmen, and javelins. IIRC javelins were really strong at least a few patches ago but it seems like they're not gonna be the best bet for fighting chariots. Do I want to spam spears or am I better off waiting for hounds? Staltran posted:Can't you turn taxes off as Norsca? That would be a -4 gone which should let you ride out the event, unless you'd then have to disband too much of your army to afford upkeep. But you probably have some provinces where you don't need to turn off taxes to avoid a rebellion, and you lose the income anyway if the settlement gets raded by rebels. Rhjamiz posted:You can, and it helps. The key tho is to always be sacking and raiding and you can ride out any budget deficit. Current at the end of my Norsca campaign I was losing 20k with like seven or eight stacks a turn but had 500k in the bank. Cities give so much for sacking it'll keep you going forever. I really didnt intend for my comment to end up a full page discussion about Norsca Rhjamiz posted:Edit; after I kicked the Everchosen's rear end I went from -20k to +20k income. I cannot be stopped.
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Sasgrillo posted:It's very lame that Lizardmen and Skaven will have gone without RoR, new units and lords for likely 18+ months. Blessed saurus warriors should be in multiplayer, dammit.
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Sasgrillo posted:It's very lame that Lizardmen and Skaven will have gone without RoR, new units and lords for likely 18+ months. But the teams are all independent and are all totally working on different things and not crunching to release 3K and support the other games that CA is pushing out the door! Yeah, it's sad that WH2 stuff is getting delayed to support other stuff, but 3K does look pretty drat good. I'd still prefer jezzails and scaly boi stuff, though.
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So does the vampirates AI do armies besides "three deckhand mobs, five mournguls, two bloaters, and then one of every type of gunpowder unit"?
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The Crotch posted:So does the vampirates AI do armies besides "three deckhand mobs, five mournguls, two bloaters, and then one of every type of gunpowder unit"? Sometimes its a ton of crab cavalry which is very annoying and a pain to deal with
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Sasgrillo posted:It's very lame that Lizardmen and Skaven will have gone without RoR, new units and lords for likely 18+ months. I'm honestly not going to buy wh3 until a year after launch. Their scheduling sucks. Maybe I'll finally get thrones of Britannia when the China game drops
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So uh, does anyone know how to win Wulfric's unique/quest battle? You fight almost three armies worth of Brettonian troops, including 20ish Peasant units, 6 Heavy Cav, 4 Trebuchets, the Green Knight, a lord on a Griffin who is apparently immune to anti-large javelins, and some other completely insane mounted unit. I've tried 6 times now and there is just no way to beat the sheer numbers, it is completely baffling how anyone thinks this is in any fun or anything, and its for a lovely quest weapon thats only upside is a global Public Order boost. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 02:37 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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They are bretonnians. Make them route.
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Frog Act posted:Playing Skaven for the first time seriously and I dunno if this is an SFO thing, but their infantry is much weightier and more capable than i remember, especially Clanrat Shields with a few ranks of exp. haven’t even unlocked any monsters or tier three infantry yet, but I have been using Queek and an assassin to great effect, Queek solos ork lords like they’re nothing I don't play SFO so some of this may not apply. Here are some random thoughts since I'm currently playing through a Skrolk campaign. Most buildings only generate 40-80 gold... but every single building generates gold. In my experience, the Skaven economy is usually pretty solid as long as you don't fill your armies with elite troops because you get an income no matter what you build. The only real 'econ' skill required is the thing that increases your income by a percentage, which is something you will probably want to build in every city anyway because it gives you a lot more money, and the tier 4 and 5 version create a food. Ambushing is huge for the Skaven, and they can get something like a +30% bonus right away in the first tier of the blue line. Remember that the default Skaven stance has a chance of ambushing as well. An easy strategy for cracking a tough nut (like a dwarf fortress) is to raid the territory with your 'all skavenslave' army while your 'real' army hides in ambush. The AI will almost always march out and immediately get ambushed. Early armies should be chock full of plagueclaw catapults which will work wonders for siege battles and crunching dwarfs. It also helps to get some rat ogres relatively early to help against tough high armor targets (like dwarf heroes). Make sure you throw an engineer in with your artillery heavy armies for huge buffs and bonuses. The lightning gun can be nice if your are fighting a lot of large tough things like lizardmen dinosaurs. The doomwheel is fun but probably not really worth the cost if you are looking for max efficiency. A plague priest is great for summoning groups of clanrats (and later plague monks) into the enemies back lines. Food is probably the most important resource. Once your provinces are settled, they should almost always be choosing the food commandment (unless your food is maxed out of course). Always build food buildings. It is an extremely fun and powerful thing to take an enemy city and immediately upgrade it to level 5 (or a settlement to level 3 so you can build a wall right away). I also try to blitz towards all of the '+2' food techs. Skaven have both the bell and the plague buildings for public order. They really don't require many buildings to create units, so you should usually have room for a bell. Early on, try and have a slave army for most of your regular armies. It makes a huge difference and you can just throw those slaves at anything and everything. I've literally used them to run opposing missile heavy armies out of arrows and artillery ammo before.
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Third World Reagan posted:They are bretonnians.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:That doesnt help because there are just more of them that take their place. I have done several quest battles with different lords and I have never seen one half this absurd and it kinda pisses me off. That's actually like my favourite quest battle in the game. Bring a couple berserkers to route/kill all the peasants and melee chaff, use skin wolves to take down any knights that come charging in, and hold the line with champions and mammoths. Throw in javelins to taste.
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A thing to note about Skaven line infantry (Skavenslaves, Clanrats, and Stormvermin): If you crunch the stats, Halberd Stormvermin have worse stats than Empire Halberdiers apart from model count and armor. Take this as a sign that upgrading your line infantry as Skaven is truly a luxury you should only take once you have cash rolling in and/or have discounts (Queek for Clanrats). Your real damage lies in your specialty units, and if your lines are collapsing faster than they can kill, learn to stagger your waves and maybe even mix up Clanrats and Skavenslaves (dead Skavenslaves cause no morale penalties to the rest of the army) in your composition.
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toasterwarrior posted:A thing to note about Skaven line infantry (Skavenslaves, Clanrats, and Stormvermin): Model count is a pretty big deal overall though, and the armor difference is huge.
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Zore posted:Model count is a pretty big deal overall though, and the armor difference is huge. Oh yes, absolutely. But each rat fighting worse than a cheaper, lower-tier, and role-equivalent human means that in terms of efficiency, a bunch of Clanrat Spears and even maybe Skavenslaves will do the same job of bodyblocking large units as long you have your combined arms game in good shape.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:So uh, does anyone know how to win Wulfric's unique/quest battle? You fight almost three armies worth of Brettonian troops, including 20ish Peasant units, 6 Heavy Cav, 4 Trebuchets, the Green Knight, a lord on a Griffin who is apparently immune to anti-large javelins, and some other completely insane mounted unit. Take some cav (or skinwolves) to mop up fleeing troops so they don't return and to take out trebuchets quickly Skinwolves or Fimir are your best best against heavy cav. Also if I remember right is the "completely insane mounted unit" the green knight? If so give Wulfrik a weapon that grants him magic attacks and go to town. The Green Knight and ethereal units in general have 75% physical resist, so using magic attacks bypasses that and lets you dice them up easily.
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I remember the battle being fun and not too hard with a terror causing unit and skinwolves or javelins for the cavalry, wulfrik on a mammoth should handle every peasant without breaking a sweat.
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Halberd rats are notorious for being poo poo, for several reasons. The biggest one is bad MD, while having bad MA and damage versus non large things doesn't help either. Second is just how they work; skaven units tend to, rather than having roles, have sort of anti-roles. Globadiers aren't "ranged", they're "Anti-Large Short-Ranged Ranged"; outside of their specific niche, they're bad, and inside their niche, well, they're fickle. Halberd rats have the inglorious role of being "Anti-Armored-Large Infantry", which is just a poo poo role for multiple reasons, mainly that infantry have a lot of very serious problems trying to deal with large units as is, and stormvermin halberds cannot meaningfully threaten or even zone out a lot of large units because they're too slow to chase them and have too low mass to avoid just getting knocked over repeatedly until they die. Other halberds at least can do other things, or are cheap enough you can throw in a few into your army to cover a few things, but stormvermin halberds are overpriced and trade horribly versus nearly everything not large. Stormvermin swords are the actual front line generalist. Their weakness is that their AP is lousy at that price point but... well, that's a lot less of a problem than bad MA/MD. Their strength is MD and armor, which makes them good. MD is actually the Best Stat. You can buff MA to deal with it (tohit = To illustrate this effect, here's a comparison between the two varieties of stormvermin units fighting against a unit with 25MA/35MD (because it made the math easier for me), with an assumption that it takes ten hits for them to kill and ten hits to die (because yet again, it makes the math easier for me; it actually takes less on a model per model, but there's also a lot of models fighting so I'm probably actually giving it too low a number to represent the impact of the law of big numbers but whatever). Comparison is between normal/normal status, fatigued versus normal foe, normal versus fatigued foe, and fatigued vs fatigued. I'm also just going to crassly assume that strength in numbers is always active because . (that 143 should be a bit lower because that'd be a 7% chance to be hit and it caps at 8%) 90 armor versus a foe with zero AP will mean you take, on average, 31 hits to kill. Versus someone with 50% AP, it drops to 15 hits. Fatigue knocks it down to 20/13. So being tired means that non-AP stuff becomes more proportionally dangerous, so if you're only relying on armor to outlast chaff in the front line well uh, don't. Armor, like MD, gets more valuable the more you have of it, but 90 armor is nothing to sneeze at, as having high MD and high armor is a multiplicative relationship; even against a foe with 50% AP damage, the swordvermin would take an average of 32 extra hits in the normal/normal situation. They're not just sort of better at being a blocker than clanrats or skavenslaves, their wildly more effective in a wide variety of circumstances. Thats not even accounting for their meager leadership gains or how much they gain from redline general skills. And against things with high MA, they at least have armor to fall back on, while nonarmored rats will die even more horribly because they already have worse MD than stormvermin swords. Against elite AP swordsvermin just die horribly and are a waste of money so I recommend trying to avoid that happening, but all rat units die horribly in that situation, just some die in a less cost inefficient manner. Anyways this is all just for me to say: don't use halberds in your front lines because they will not kill anything, then get tired and die. They're for just parking on arty crews and glowering at large units so they go and destroy your frontline instead. e: corrected error: "innate" bonus to hit is 35, not 30. Numbers of hypothetical foe adjusted accordingly. Tiler Kiwi fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Feb 1, 2019 |
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Gonkish posted:But the teams are all independent and are all totally working on different things and not crunching to release 3K and support the other games that CA is pushing out the door! More like, WH2 teams are working on WH3 and the marketing people don't want to jeopardise any Three Kingdoms media right now. Youtubers are starting to get preview videos up and a focused stream of attention is better than a mixed bag of content.
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Lugubrious! posted:That's actually like my favourite quest battle in the game. Bring a couple berserkers to route/kill all the peasants and melee chaff, use skin wolves to take down any knights that come charging in, and hold the line with champions and mammoths. Throw in javelins to taste. edit: Like...I've gone into every other quest battle that I have done with the army I had on hand with that lord and have usually won pretty easily. team overhead smash posted:Take some cav (or skinwolves) to mop up fleeing troops so they don't return and to take out trebuchets quickly There is some Anti-Large, inexhaustible, insanely good every stat unit of Heavy Cav that spawns along side the Mountain Dew Knight. My Trolls happened to be over near where they spawn the one time and they instantly routed when charged by them, probably due in large part to the fact that most of them died due to the charge. Most of their heavy cav are anti-large so when I did try Skin Wolves against them the Skin Wolves dropped dead nearly immediately. When I managed to get some Spearmen set up in between their Cav and the rest of my lines my Spearmen immediately broke when charged. AAAAA! Real Muenster fucked around with this message at 14:18 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Oh you are fighting Grail Knights. EDIT: I think skin wolves are infantry sized so units with anti-large shouldn't get a bonus against them. Make sure your spears are braced (in other words, facing the enemy, NOT MOVING) when receiving the charge from large enemies. Fangz fucked around with this message at 14:25 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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Fangz posted:Oh you are fighting Grail Knights. Skin Wolves counts as large units, Grail Knights will kick their poo poo in. You want to bog them down with spears and throw all the loving javelins at them.
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toasterwarrior posted:Skin Wolves counts as large units, Grail Knights will kick their poo poo in. You want to bog them down with spears and throw all the loving javelins at them. Yeah, I'm not too familiar with this fight, but it sounds tough. You want a tight formation to deal with the Grail Knights, but the trebuchets are probably making that a bad idea. Im thinking you should try and get a Drake, or snow dragon or whatever the monstrous flyer Norsca has to take care of their Arty ASAP.
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For what it's worth, great weapon fimir should smash grail knights, and I'd assume regular fimir would still win. They're still large, but they're much better armoured than skinwolves, and grail knights struggle against armour. They themselves are anti-large, armour piercing, armour sundering, and deal magic damage to bypass the knights' physical resistance. Of course, if you're trying to do this fight early, fimir are probably a bridge too far.
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Thank you for all of the replies...Fangz posted:Oh you are fighting Grail Knights. toasterwarrior posted:Skin Wolves counts as large units, Grail Knights will kick their poo poo in. You want to bog them down with spears and throw all the loving javelins at them. kidkissinger posted:Yeah, I'm not too familiar with this fight, but it sounds tough. You want a tight formation to deal with the Grail Knights, but the trebuchets are probably making that a bad idea. Im thinking you should try and get a Drake, or snow dragon or whatever the monstrous flyer Norsca has to take care of their Arty ASAP. I'm kinda bad at battles (I enjoy the campaign aspect of the game way more (its part of why I am trying to own all of Norsca )) and it makes me wish that I could do that fight in MP so I could ask my friend who is really good at battles to observe/advise/command a few units because it gets crazy. Oh and with it being a Quest mission, you cannot bring reinforcements or autoresolve. The Crotch posted:For what it's worth, great weapon fimir should smash grail knights, and I'd assume regular fimir would still win. They're still large, but they're much better armoured than skinwolves, and grail knights struggle against armour. They themselves are anti-large, armour piercing, armour sundering, and deal magic damage to bypass the knights' physical resistance.
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Have enough fear/terror units to continuously rout the peasants without needing to fight them much, spawncamp the archer wave and rout them off the map the moment they appear, then fight mainly on the right hand side field and let the knights from the castle outrun their artillery support. The RoR ice dragon you get from the first beast hunt is amazing for basically every one of these things.
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Also if you ever asked yourself "man, I wonder how ludicrous armor damage reduction gets if I don't have decent AP damage, or maybe, any AP damage at all" boy howdy i got you covered (especially if you really want badly formatted poo poo!!!)
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Tiler Kiwi posted:Also if you ever asked yourself "man, I wonder how ludicrous armor damage reduction gets if I don't have decent AP damage, or maybe, any AP damage at all" boy howdy i got you covered (especially if you really want badly formatted poo poo!!!) Thanks for this! If you had to choose between MD and armour, MD is still better though, right?
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McGavin posted:Thanks for this! If you had to choose between MD and armour, MD is still better though, right? Its nice to have both if you can help it. But high MD is generally safer/more useful, tho of course how safe depends on the MA values of what you're up against (and their damage/AP damage, too, and how many ranged units they're gonna bring, and those ranged units AP values). The good examples of the extremes is those DLC dark elf Sisters of Slaughter and the Steam Tank. The steam tank is kind of notorious for not really being all that tanky due to having cataclysmic MD, while Sisters of Slaughter are able to hold a front line against near everything (their poison and shields helps, too). The one big, nasty exception tho, is magic. Most magic is impacted by armor, while exactly none of it cares about MD. So a unit of chaos warriors will laugh off a wind blast while a unit of sisters of slaughter will get absolutely annihilated by one. Some magic is also AP, but that tends to be more expensive (with some notable exceptions: hello Warp Lightning). Also, there's some undocumented damage present in the game, most notably stuff thats related to charges and impact damage; armor seems to reduce that, while MD doesn't. Maybe. Charges do tend to add a burst of damage and MA but generally the MA is a lot more significant than the flat damage increases; this can also cause units that rely on MD to suffer if they don't have anything to back it up. Solo model units are another case where MD, while good on them, gets diminished in value, since they're often stuck in alone in the middle of enemy crowds and thus are more likely to be struck on their flanks and have their MD reduced harshly against those attacks; these reductions are also percentile values, so the more elite your dude is, the more they're going to lose. But yeah, MD tends to be hold more impact than armor outside of the more extreme values, is more reliable, and is generally more difficult to counter. If I had to chose, I'd pick MD. If you're gearing / skilling up a character in campaign, tho, generally you want to focus on which defensive stat your character already has a lot of (my rule of thumb is that around 90ish armor is the minimum threshold to be considered "pretty armored" and worth investing in).
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Armour does matter for ranged attacks as well, of course. Generally better to have your peasant archers or chameleon skinks or whatever shoot at the sisters rather than the executioners, even with the shield bonus. Also, I think direct damage spells like Fate of Bjuna ignore armour, yeah?
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Doesn't being charged in the rear negate MD?
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I’ve been playing Lokhir! Haven’t played much of dark elves at all, but I’ve gotten pretty far through Vortex this time. The essentially free upkeep units across black arks, and having one per major port means I can have a lot of sea control. The changes to sea treasure with VC means there’s quite a bit for black arka to fight out and do out there. Also being able to replenish and recruit new units anywhere with one nearby is really neat! Haven’t had a good monster to throw a kharybdiss (spl) at yet, last one got swarmed by two units of cold one knights and didn’t do well. Liking the hand bow corsairs for being able to destroy depth guard whilst they struggle to keep up. And all the AP ranged damage units are amazing against dinos.
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The Crotch posted:Armour does matter for ranged attacks as well, of course. Generally better to have your peasant archers or chameleon skinks or whatever shoot at the sisters rather than the executioners, even with the shield bonus. I think direct damage ignores armor, yeah. And yeah, the ranged countering unarmored stuff generally holds true; the caveat to that is that it doesn't take a lot of ranged AP damage for anything to find getting shot a lot super unpleasant. Around 3, 4 AP damage is enough for a few ranged units of that type to be able to delete things pretty reliably if they don't have armor and a shield. And then there's stuff that has more AP than that and then your armored units are just going to be priority targets. Ranged units tend to be pretty drat strong in general, tho, barring stuff that just has depressing range or pathetic AP damage, and even then they're likely inaccurate as hell to boot. Fangz posted:Doesn't being charged in the rear negate MD? Reduces it to like, 30%, but the trick is, this is tracked per model. So if you're attacking in the rear, your units get maybe one free hit before the enemy models in the back of their unit just turn around and then they get their full MD value to defend with. Its kind of bullshit yes but oh well. But it DOES mean that disruption from charges and whatnot are more useful against high MD units, since they're more likely to get stabbed in a more mixed up moshpit caused by cycling chariots and whatnot, but you really have to get their unit scattered apart for this to work. Tiler Kiwi fucked around with this message at 18:17 on Jan 31, 2019 |
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I'm loving the Armor/MD chat, it helps me understand combat a lot more.Asehujiko posted:Have enough fear/terror units to continuously rout the peasants without needing to fight them much, spawncamp the archer wave and rout them off the map the moment they appear, then fight mainly on the right hand side field and let the knights from the castle outrun their artillery support. The RoR ice dragon you get from the first beast hunt is amazing for basically every one of these things.
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