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Kinda busy today but will be around from tomorrow afternoon on.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 05:44 |
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 03:12 |
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Taste why is Hal scum because of today?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 05:56 |
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merk posted:Taste why is Hal scum because of today? His claim comes abruptly after being named under an Ecco cop and conveniently fingers one of the most suspicious members of the town. His first real participation in the game comes, of course, as soon as it’s his neck on the line, and in trying to support his original claim offers a complex and convenient set of unverifiable joat powers that not-so-subtly imply a greater value lost in mislynch than what dbd has claimed for those on the fence. This is clearly a self-preservation gesture from a player that’s been more concerned with sitting on the sidelines until it’s his time to face scrutiny
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 06:09 |
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Taste what is your dbd read? I think this game is coming together here.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 07:09 |
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Sub Rosa posted:I still don't understand this play if Tokes was Vanilla Town and had no extra standing in the NK Masonry above the other people in the NK Masonry. I end up feeling there is something about the Masonry that still is unknown or unannounced. I don't believe that DGK is still the person submitting names, and so I'm wondering what Solus knows and isn't telling. Very worried Solus could be scum and invited scum to the NK Masonry. But I have mostly had a town read on Solus, and the one time I didn't and pressed, Solus' reaction seemed authentic to me. Something about publicly asking the person invited to the masonry not to reveal that does give a feeling they don't also share another masonry like scum chat, though, I guess. Still worried the NK Masonry will kill more town and we could end up not knowing who else is pulling the trigger. yes, that's why we voted tokes.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:02 |
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SolusLunes posted:oh, right, completely forgot about that, I've been kind of out of it, haven't really gotten sleep in the last two days, keep getting interrupted by literal bats, fuckin' house is 110 years old i can confirm that i am now in the cool club with solus.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:16 |
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also, the past masonry chat history isn't interesting like i was hoping. sorry solus.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:16 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Any insight on the other sigils on the puzzle? If they are related to your masonry? i was gifted a silver coin and a limerick about a man named mike hunt. nothing about an inscription / sigil. i don't see how that helps anything though?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:21 |
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hambeet posted:also, the past masonry chat history isn't interesting like i was hoping. sorry solus. Oh you can already read it? I presume it confirms how Solus has characterized the masonry then?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:39 |
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hey dgk i've just remembered something. have your thoughts changed on duplicating roles?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:54 |
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Sub Rosa posted:Oh you can already read it? I presume it confirms how Solus has characterized the masonry then? yeah it's pretty spot on. ama.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 09:55 |
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merk posted:I have a case on DBD. I have a case on hambeet. I would vote either. the case on me is "he's reactionary". i don't even really know how to respond to that. like i've legit put that in my mafia.txt for when i'm scum to use because it's an easy thing to not have to define and it isn't an easy thing to defend against. also you thought ngo was genuine based on one short sentence. that's unreal. (how's mum and bub?)
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 10:10 |
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Deadbeat Dad posted:These are your last two pages of all your votes: yeah totally. i'd vote merk today.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 10:12 |
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I won't be here for deadline............ I need to know is merk really scum or not because I've been operating with him as town since the beginning. if he's pulling a fast one on me i need to know
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:05 |
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Point 1: Hal's claim matches his play:Hal Incandenza posted:Very intriguing, I tracked you going nowhere Hal Incandenza posted:Actually a second JOAT D1 Hal: Hal Incandenza posted:I don't agree a whole lot with sandwolf, didn't think he was scummy at first but merks points are decent Hal Incandenza posted:##vote Sandwolf N1 Hal: Investigates Sandwolf who cannot kill. D2 Hal: Hal Incandenza posted:Also I think I was wrong about sandwolf yesterday, I feel pretty good about him being town today N3 Hal: Tracks DBD to nowhere. D3 Hal: Hal Incandenza posted:Very intriguing, I tracked you going nowhere On Sandwolf: I do not believe scum would setup a JOAT gunsmith claim like this so early. On DBD: I do not believe scum would stick their neck out and counterclaim someone to create a thunderdome when there is zero heat whatsoever on Hal besides an Ecco Cop from a player no one trusts already. Hal Incandenza posted:Hmmm I think Spoonsy may be a scum JOAT, watcher is a good scum role especially in this game Hal attacks another JOAT claim, a reasonable thing for a Town JOAT to do.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:35 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:I mean I have been pretty clear since Spoonsy claimed joat that I thought he was a scum JOAT so why would I feel like I need to vote for one of the ecco-copped players over a person who I have a result on that says they lied? yes you did. i guess that's why you voted them... oh but you did push them hard.... oh no. not really. Hal Incandenza posted:Hmmm I think Spoonsy may be a scum JOAT, watcher is a good scum role especially in this game Hal Incandenza posted:I'm not beet, but I do still think the claim mishap reads townie, but Spoonsy posting otherwise hasn't been doing much for me. Scum watcher Spoonsy really opens things up since it lets taste and DBD both be telling the truth and some other unreported visitor did the actual kill. Hal Incandenza posted:
Hal Incandenza posted:How about Spoonsy? that's it. you mention them a few times, but it doesn't really seem like you want to do anything about it at that time either. you do ask merk if he'd vote spoonsy as we were close to deadline yesterday, but this is the closest you get to actually pushing for it. i'd describe that as relatively cool in light of someone claiming the same role as you.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:35 |
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oh lol look. merk is defending hal again. ##vote hal would vote merk too.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:35 |
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merk posted:If this is distancing, it’s weird that he’d add a “for now” to it and not even really explain the vote. Usually scum players don’t put in weasel language on other scum and somewhat naked distancing votes don’t feel very common to me. okay, i've read that, but like your 'ngo looks genuine here post' i think you're trying to make something out of nothing.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:43 |
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I am switching my tune on ##vote Spoonsy. Tokes was right d1 that Spoonsy had many votes and looked like the possible d1 lynch when he pulled the messenger gambit out of his hat. Looking at the actual context now that I'm on a computer, I think this was a scum gambit to create confusion away from Spoonsy.Spoonsy posted:Finishes working out and checks thread oh boy I wonder... Spoonsy posted:I mean hell if it makes you all feel better, I intercepted (no I have no idea where it came from, no I cannot quote the image) a communication that told me that Asiina, JenX, Tokes, and Solus have a collective NK. As I said, can't say scum, can't say 3P, but not town! The narrative here is that you have a scum come back to the thread, see a bunch of votes on him and he feels the need to create some diversion. I didn't really see it before I reviewed this morning. Also, importantly on the Spoonsy situation is this: Jen X posted:##vote: spoonsy JX busses Spoonsy as the fifth vote on him before the diversion messenger claim. For you conspiracy theorists out there: Jen X busses Spoonsy at Jul 6, 2020 17:26 Spoonsy does his mega reveal at Jul 6, 2020 17:31 JX is chatting in scum chat and says she feels compelled to bus Spoonsy here. Moments later, Spoonsy gets into scum chat. Spoonsy asks for a lifelife on how he can be saved. The messenger gambit is formed. It all seems really simple now that I've actually done the work.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:44 |
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and again, it's another example of you trying to defend hal. what's the deal? are you lovers?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:45 |
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hambeet posted:and again, it's another example of you trying to defend hal. what's the deal? are you lovers? I have a town read on a player. I am explaining why. What do you think of my post about Hal? What do you think about my post on Spoonsy? For what it's worth, I no longer have such a strong town read on taste. I do not agree that Hal is playing scummy today, and taste's only point seems to be that the claim is "convenient" without analyzing why the hell scum would stick their neck out with a Track fakeclaim on DBD.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:47 |
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Please keep in mind when your gut reaction tells you my scum messenger gambit theory is too obvious: When the Spoonsy messenger gambit came, the scum team had no idea that JX was going to die n1 and blow the whole thing up.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:50 |
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Thank you everyone for the baby well wishes. As a privacy attorney, I would be pretty stupid to post pictures on a public forum, but I will say that mama and baby are doing great!
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 13:52 |
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I think I may have an idea on who is submitting names to the NK masonry. The dead. I just notice that while there are pure observers of this game with spoiler roles on Discord, none of the dead seem to. So maybe the dead still have an active game roll. If it is submitting names to the NK masonry, it explains why a way would have to exist for a living player to submit the name D1 only. D1: DGK submits merk D2: 1 town 1 scum submits yuming and taste. yuming dies. I presume that yuming was submitted by scum and taste was submitted by town. D3: majority town dead (1 scum, 1 3P, 3 town iirc) only submits one name: taste I think town dead may know something we don't, and it implicates taste is scum. ##vote taste again
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:04 |
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Sub Rosa posted:I think I may have an idea on who is submitting names to the NK masonry. The dead. I just notice that while there are pure observers of this game with spoiler roles on Discord, none of the dead seem to. So maybe the dead still have an active game roll. If it is submitting names to the NK masonry, it explains why a way would have to exist for a living player to submit the name D1 only. There's also a chance they're just not configured that way... I was lazy and didn't put the dead into people's confessionals in Cuomo. Also hi good morning. I'm keeping my vote on Hal
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:08 |
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As for current cases and people with votes, I have pretty consistently had a town read on hambeet, and while I've leaned scum on both hal and merk, their posting this game day hasn't seemed scummy to me. I also think Spoonsy has played really close to the last Harry Potter game where Spoonsy was town. So which of the four is lying I can't tell at this moment. I still have doubts about DBD but every time I've pressed him the result felt genuine town to me. Solus picking hambeet to recruit made me feel better about Solus. Sandwolf is so town to me that Amni voting him makes me think I should reread Amni.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:09 |
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If Spoonsy flips scum, taste's weird interactions with Spoonsy (saying he doesn't believe the claim over and over again but never really trying to get Spoonsy eliminated) and attack of Hal are probably where I'll go next.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:19 |
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merk posted:Point 1: Hal's claim matches his play: I think of the 3, it's Merk. This is the first case-like post he's made and it's not to case someone it's not even to call them town, it's to say their claim is probably true. ##vote Merk
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:30 |
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So on rereading Amni, Amni does still seem town to me. Don't agree with reads on Sandwolf, but they don't seem like scummy reads?Amnistar posted:That was more to explain that I have no control over specific items, I have a list of unidentified items I can either give out or identify, and then give out. I realized I'm not clear on what items have been put in play or what they do. N1 Amni gives Solus an unidentified locked glass box N2 Solus uses the locked glass box, targeting Spoonsy. Amni gives Spoonsy a record player. N3 Amni gives merk something that will delay merk's flip for a day and become a stump. That means merk can post forever? WTF Amni, first you join after joke phase so I can't joke vote you for Mods Collide, and now this!? D4 Amni says the next item has a puzzle attached and has said will give to DBD. Amnistar posted:The one I made last night requires the user to successfully complete a challenge to use it! How can Solus's glass box be the only one you didn't analyze if you have given an item every night? Wouldn't that mean you haven't had time to analyze any of them? But you make it sound like you do know what the record player and the one you gave merk do. Spoonsy thought that it was one of the items that caused the rollblock, but we have had one and only one rollblock reported every night, so the items may have nothing to do with the rollblock. So I have no idea what the glass box does, or what the record player does beyond Pet Sounds flavor.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 15:39 |
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Votecount for Day 4 Hal Incandenza (4): Deadbeat Dad, t a s t e, Spoonsy (2): Sandwolf, merk Deadbeat Dad (2): Hal Incandenza, merk, Sub Rosa, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, Sandwolf (1): Amnistar merk (1): DGK2000 t a s t e (1): Sub Rosa, Amnistar, NevergirlsOFFICIAL, DGK2000 (0): SolusLunes, SolusLunes (0): DGK2000, Not Voting (1): Deadbeat Dad With 12 alive, it's 7 votes to execute. The current deadline is July 17th, 2020 at 8 p.m. CDT -- that's in about 9 hours, 37 minutes.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 16:22 |
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hambeet posted:oh lol look. merk is defending hal again. merk actually going back and looking at my play how it matched up with my claim and being one of the only ones to do so makes me think he's more likely town. Why bother trying to do that instead of hopping on the easy push on me? I mean I know you think we are both scum, but fmpov I am much less suspicious of merk now
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 16:37 |
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taste being kind of obtuse and NOT doing what merk did and just making it out like I dropped this super convenient claim in response to what was not very damning evidence against me and claiming I suddenly got more active which isn't true (I am still not very active) is now pinging me. If spoonsy IS telling the truth a regular cop on top of an (admittedly one-shot) ecco cop and a gunsmith seems less likely Really though just how fast taste just decided I made up that claim seems fake to me. Taste has played with me as much as anyone has, that's not the sort of thing I would even do as scum in that spot
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 16:42 |
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I agree on taste.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:12 |
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hambeet posted:hey dgk i've just remembered something. have your thoughts changed on duplicating roles? They have evolved, yes.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:39 |
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Merk finally makes a comprehensive case and it’s to clear someone rather than hunt scum, Hal somehow sees this as proof of his towniness, and sub Rosa is claiming dead players are convening to call me scum. Sheesh At least some players can actually read
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:39 |
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Every post Hal makes leads me to be more confident in my read. I guarantee he’s scum
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:42 |
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hambeet posted:yes you did. that's it. you mention them a few times, but it doesn't really seem like you want to do anything about it at that time either. you do ask merk if he'd vote spoonsy as we were close to deadline yesterday, but this is the closest you get to actually pushing for it. i'd describe that as relatively cool in light of someone claiming the same role as you. [/quote] So to be fair, JOATs with different abilities on the same team is more plausible than two town cops or that sort of thing so him being a town JOAT isn’t completely out of the realm of possibility, but his posting is still pretty scummy. NGOs was worse in my mind yesterday and that’s more damning that a second JOAT claim to me
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:46 |
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t a s t e posted:Every post Hal makes leads me to be more confident in my read. I guarantee he’s scum Am I lying about my role or do you just think I’m the scum JOAT? Explain ending D1 voting Sandwolf and intentionally saying I no longer suspect Sandwolf at the start of D2 as anything other than a breadcrumb of my result
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:48 |
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Taste/DBD/beet perhaps?
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:48 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:Am I lying about my role or do you just think I’m the scum JOAT? A scum joat with a gunsmith in a game with a masonry of killers and an arsonist isn’t that far fetched though.
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# ? Jul 17, 2020 17:49 |