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VectorSigma posted:my 2nd pfizer shot is in 2 hours and i have vaccine impatiency floffytoffy posted:I'm taking the day after my shot off right now
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fosborb posted:lol just the absolute loving worst
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:37 |
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Insanite posted:https://www.thedriftmag.com/other-peoples-despair/ sounds like these people needed therapy
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:37 |
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Vox Nihili posted:No, they really obviously made the wrong move and it's not even close, particularly given the extreme rarity of the side effects. COVID itself is something like 10x-50x more likely to trigger those clot issues. Millions less people in total will be vaccinated now, and tens of thousands more will die. J&J was the best (only, really) option for vulnerable populations in the US since it's already hard to get vulnerable people out for even a single shot, much less two times shots. Now opinion has turned against it after the combined media + social media fear machine took off. The government is too cheap to pay people to vaccinate and most people are badly spooked by exploding brain syndrome vs. "it's just the flu." i would argue that this bolded part is happening primarily because people actually died from side effects not observed during the trial, not just because the government responded poorly to it. no matter how you respond to those deaths, it's going to take off in the media, and especially social media i could be wrong, but i just can't shake the feeling that this was just a no-win situation we were put into by trying to get the vaccines out ASAP (a good decision imo) and got screwed over by chance, thanks to a side effect that squeaked by the trials by virtue of being incredibly rare
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:38 |
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Tzen posted:how cruel can you be goddamn Ha what a bunch of pricks ! I know getting out of school for a snow day and building snowmen with my family was one of the simple pleasures growing up as a child.
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Vox Nihili posted:Biden saying they still expect to get 70% vaccinated. Woof. We'll be lucky to make 55% now. I like looking at the lamestream media NYT times site for vaccine rate just to watch the downward trend over the last few weeks. But Sleepy Joe said it was just a supply problem?
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Insanite posted:https://www.thedriftmag.com/other-peoples-despair/ of course
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:41 |
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fosborb posted:cool, so the first half of the school year is pretty much guaranteed to be not fully vaccinated with no remote option and no mitigation measures
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Beached Whale posted:I got my 2nd Pfizer shot around 11am this morning, when do I start feelin' the effects cuz so far I've been navigating things fairly fine.
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:43 |
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Tzen posted:in about 12 hours you'll be feeling like your AV Does weed cure this condition? I think I'm just gonna chief my way through this
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:45 |
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lmao not looking forward to this doubleheader
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:46 |
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This is my new working from home setup? What do you guys think?
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:49 |
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shot 2 is on saturday for me and I WANT IT NOW.
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:50 |
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after like 82 days without a death we now have 2 more deaths this week in our county plus 188% increase in positivity. oben
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:50 |
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Rah! posted:normal country don't they have a lot of leeway to say "yeah you're committing a felony, your rear end is under arrest when we land" don't let these assholes have any leeway, crack down on them fast and hard
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:52 |
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Thoguh posted:A reminder that if you get on an airplane currently your risk assessment needs it include consideration that you are getting on an airplane with the kind of person who thinks it's a good idea to fly for vacation right now. Insanite posted:https://www.thedriftmag.com/other-peoples-despair/
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Shipon posted:don't they have a lot of leeway to say "yeah you're committing a felony, your rear end is under arrest when we land" But then they might become flight hesitant, and what would that do to the economy?
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:55 |
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quote:"What we have seen on our planes is flight attendants being physically assaulted, pushed, choked," Nelson said. "We have a passenger urinate. We had a passenger spit into the mouth of a child on board."
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:57 |
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https://twitter.com/RichBnsn/status/1389632305413689349?s=20
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:59 |
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please remember we are the ones who need to see a psychiatrist and all us being cautious is accomplishing is making people like the ones in this article vaccine hesitant!
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# ? May 4, 2021 23:59 |
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Tzen posted:how cruel can you be goddamn Days off are for the rich
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:00 |
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U-DO Burger posted:i would argue that this bolded part is happening primarily because people actually died from side effects not observed during the trial, not just because the government responded poorly to it. no matter how you respond to those deaths, it's going to take off in the media, and especially social media During the pause, daily vaccination rates for people under 65 for all lines immediately dropped like a rock. The government did a remarkably poor job at handling the PR side of the vaccination drive. A full week of news stories about the CDC pause became frantic social media terror. People who may have otherwise gotten vaccinated heard about scary side effects and that was that. Most people don't think a lot about this stuff, they make a decision and stick with it. They aren't reading news articles about variants every day and they certainly aren't reviewing clinical studies about vaccine efficacy. Hell, doctors in AFRICA were complaining that people were saying they didn't want to be vaccinated based on the CDC pause news. Most people who haven't gotten vaccinated by now aren't going to give it a second thought unless there's a real incentive to get vaccinated. It's time to pay people. The information war has already been lost.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:01 |
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Looks like India is entering another level as hosed Chennai hospitals are starting to fill up. https://twitter.com/shriiiitt/status/1389594812358090754
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:01 |
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it’d be cool if we had a government who could actually do things and we just vaccinated everyone.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:03 |
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Penisaurus Sex posted:it’d be cool if we had a government who could actually do things and we just vaccinated everyone. That what they did to wipe out polio so fast in the US after WWII. People got jumped after church to take the vaccine and the military was involved in the vaccination roll-out effort.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:04 |
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OK so what's the end game here? If we aren't going to pay people to take the vaccine and we aren't going to meaningfully force people to take it, then what happens? Do we just wait for some super mutant strain to tear through anyone not vaccinated until they're either dead or scared straight into taking it? Followup question: how did the 1918 pandemic end without a vaccine? Did it just get bad enough it scythed through the population not willing to take precautions until it burned itself out?
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:06 |
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Mr Hootington posted:Months back the CDC changed the positive criteria make it so whatever needed to be detected to determine if you had covid had to be at higher levels. Since then the number of covid positives has gone down. Got a citation for this? This feels true but I don't have proof. CA having low numbers doesn't feel right either so I wonder if that's due to this?
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:06 |
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Lacrosse posted:OK so what's the end game here? If we aren't going to pay people to take the vaccine and we aren't going to meaningfully force people to take it, then what happens? Do we just wait for some super mutant strain to tear through anyone not vaccinated until they're either dead or scared straight into taking it? More people keep dying and it just becomes a "normal" part of life
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The Demilich posted:Got a citation for this? This feels true but I don't have proof. it’s a lie, don’t worry about it there was guidance released to ensure operators were calibrating their PCR machines correctly for the threshold of amplification necessary to generate a result that was accurate a bunch of right wing, and then centrist, idiots read it conspiratorially and decided it was loving with testing metrics rather than just being a reminder to RTFM
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:09 |
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Lacrosse posted:Followup question: how did the 1918 pandemic end without a vaccine? Did it just get bad enough it scythed through the population not willing to take precautions until it burned itself out? There was no vaccine and it ended up being a case of herd immunity but this was after it killed millions worldwide. Due to getting all over creation we will never know the truth death toll from the 1918 pandemic.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:10 |
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Vox Nihili posted:More people keep dying and it just becomes a "normal" part of life FWIW we're almost here already. It seems like we're fine with 500-1,000 extra deaths per day. It's no longer even newsworthy unless a big surge hits. We've basically normalized a forever pandemic.
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:12 |
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didnt the 1918 pandemic basically just turn into the flu variants that we still deal with and still kill people
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:13 |
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Tzen posted:loving gently caress quote:intensification of normality in all its cruelty gently caress yeah
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:13 |
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covid will just become the flu and we can all go back to living
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Bullfrog posted:didnt the 1918 pandemic basically just turn into the flu variants that we still deal with and still kill people yes, it got less deadly after initially burning through the population
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Paradoxish posted:I think it's more that the average American views eating out as essentially the standard family activity and couldn't afford to do it on a regular basis at places fancier than fast casual restaurants, especially if they're taking kids. Very few people are taking their family out to $80/person restaurants on a weekly basis, but lots of people do family nights at Applebee's or whatever. in vast swaths of America, $80/person restaurants don't even exist. Olive Garden and Applebee's are the "fancy" restaurants in those areas. The cheaper options are the Chevron snack shack or McDonalds
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# ? May 5, 2021 00:14 |
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Nonsense posted:covid will just become the flu and we can all go back to living Hm but what if we could reverse the order?
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Nonsense posted:covid will just become the flu and we can all go back to living Yes! although, not all of us
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Nonsense posted:covid will just become the flu and we can all go back to dying
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Notorious R.I.M. posted:They're concerned about how awkward brunch feels when their waiter is wearing a mask and glaring at them.
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