I said come in! posted:

lol this isn't going to happen. Nothing major is going to happen with Star Citizen and the people against it, lets be honest here. The game will live or die entirely on its own. Probably die.

Truga posted:

Eh, let's face it. Even if the game comes out and blows everyone's socks off with how good it is, there's just no way to peak... whatever this is.

D_Smart posted:

Yup, pretty much. But they're all in denial because, well, bogeyman and all. Wait until my next blog - which cleared legal last week - hits on Tuesday. They're really going to be mad.

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In 2014 alone, judges upheld class-action bans in 134 out of 162 cases

LCL-Dead posted:

Blog blocked at work.

The French Army! posted:

What the hell is gamergate anyhow? I don't follow any of this gaming garbage because I'm an adult with real hobbies, but a TLDR would be nice.

G0RF posted:

Traffic rank of RSI will be interesting to watch in the next couple of months. Hard to know how much of this is a picture of organic popularity vs. other factors (website redesigns, Google algorithm changes, etc...) But it is interesting to note that traffic had already dropped pretty notably before Derek Smart started his crusade in July.... (But on the bright side, RSI maybe got a nice bump on the Escapist story in October!)

neonbregna posted:

Ketchup is for literal man babies that need sugar poured on everything. Real men use these.

comatose posted:

Thats a fine looking movie trailer.

D_Smart posted:

I see someone else is trying to make the connection.

Here's the thing: that's what lawsuits are for. We get to find out which aliases (if any), accounts etc they've posted under. And if the judge grants it, attorneys get to send in forensic IT people to go image all their devices, computers etc. This happens all the time; especially in legal action that revolves around stuff like this.

You also get to send subpoenas to all ISPs, social media etc for all their communications. Usually they will petition the judge to refuse it, but according to attorneys, those tend to fail quickly since judges recognize that in this digital age, most nefarious poo poo is done online.

Eonwe posted:

im dying

D_Smart posted:

That's obvious. But thanks for educating those who have never been involved in lawsuits before.


That would depend on a specific cause of action in the complaint and whether or not the judge lets it stand. If there is a defamation or similar cause of action, it's all covered under cause.

And I never said anything about suing over a ToS being the reason for this request. You did.


False.

I have done it twice. I know of several lawsuits in which they have been done. In fact, practically every big case you read online and in which material was disclosed, obtained this information from this sort of reveal, and not discovery (which is prone to shenanigans) whereby you ask nicely and hope they provide the material requested, don't taint the evidence etc.


False.

I have been involved in two lawsuits between 2010 and 2012 in which we (my attorneys) filed for it, the judge granted it. Then the attorneys sent in a third-party (Asset Control, Inc) to do it. They had a judge signed sub-poena. They went to the party, got it all done etc. They billed the attorneys, who paid for it, then billed my retainer account.


False.

The attorneys got to see it first, filtered through what they needed, then provided me (and the court) with the pertinent data.

Mirificus posted:

CIG Frankfurt is rewriting the engine for DX12



https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15091-BTS-Cloud-Imperium-Frankfurt

D_Smart posted:

Agreed. Also, I think they've reached the saturation point now and they know it. Hence the cash grab type sales. I firmly believe that Q4/15 is the funding Hail Mary. We just have to wait and see.

Beet Wagon posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mGpyUaVJDzo

Mirificus posted:

Why would they take it down?

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MeLKoR posted:

Stuff like this is what puts me off WH40K, it veers too close into 4th Stimpire territory. Why would anyone continue to fight for these rulers, they don't seem that much better than the Chaos they claim to protect humanity from. The guys that come out looking least evil are those mecha dudes and they still plan to genocide humanity through sterilization. Might as well embrace Chaos and to hell with everything.

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D_Smart posted:

INN contacted me. No further action. All they've done is add this to their post:

Told you so.

Yup

So basically they're saying that the emails aren't credible. And if they're not credible, they're saying you're lying about them.

Thronde posted:

90 percent of all poses will be Female Sexy standing 1/2/3/etc. 5 percent will be Male, arms crossed frowning, the last 5 Man/Woman purring/mewing/furrycon

Doubt me? Spend a half hour on Drozana station in Star Trek Online.

CrazyLoon posted:

I see Star Citizen attracts a wide diversity of neckbeard.

G0RF posted:

... a real ship you are piloting in space.....

G0RF posted:

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

At some point there will be a critical threshold over which the community will no longer tolerate their failures. I wonder what the tipping point will be.

D_Smart posted:

Yes, the issue with the govt - as I've stated before - is that 1) they take their sweet time and probably won't get to it until it's all over 2) we won't be privy to any of the information that backers are entitled to because Fed action is not the same as a private or class action - they won't tell you poo poo if you're not part of the action

Yes, myself or anyone can sue them over Star Citizen but as attorneys (even the two that contacted me and offered to help pro bono) have said, we run the chance of it being tossed out of State or Fed court and into arbitration due to the ToS. In my case, since they have NO evidence that I ever agreed to their new ToS, having never - ever - played the game or done anything that resulted in my agreeing to said ToS, I do have a case. But a slim one.

So the choice is either :

1) sue in State or Fed court and run the risk of it being tossed to arbitration as per Star Citizen ToS. waste of time and money. bad.

2) then (as per above) in arbitration, show enough cause to get it tossed back into State or Fed court. waste of time and money. bad. going back to #1 is good.

3) sue Chris for defamation, make RSI/CIG a party to the suit and add a litany of causes of action related to Star Citizen.

4) wait for the whole thing to collapse. now there are so many reasons (aka "Cause Of Action") to sue either in arbitration, State, Fed court because now we're talking about the collapse of a $106M+ project; which is still shy of the $150M+ collapse of 38 Studios and which reached a crescendo of legal shenanigans only because the State had $75M invested in it.

There are other options which I am not at liberty to discuss. But at the end of the day, I have always maintained that I have no intentions of giving up unless and until they 1) give people the refunds they asked for 2) they provide the financial accounting they promised

In the US, you don't need a plausible reason to sue someone. I could walk into court today, and for less than $500, sue them for a laundry list of things. They will attempt to get it tossed. And if they succeed, they can petition for their legal costs etc.

The legal system is hosed. Which is why a company like this can do shady poo poo like the ToS shenanigans - and get away with it for a long as they can.

EightAce posted:

You'll see. Two weeks

How can I prove myself without getting either myself or other developers in the poo poo

D_Smart posted:

...The only thing that’s going to benefit this project right now, is for legal action to provide answers and remedies before it all collapses. There is simply no other way out of this that I can see.

I Greyhound posted:

I wonder how much it costs for a movie trailer campaign? Maybe that's the big idiocy hinted by EightAce? They're dropping like tens of millions on trailer ads for a game they're studiously not making because they're too busy planning out the trailer for it?

Bootcha posted:

I suppose my angle is I am interested in the welfare of both ex and current employees, and as I stated before these people do not have the means or financial capability to defend themselves against a libel/slander/espionage lawsuit. If CIG is willing to contest a UK civil suit against a goon trying to get a refund, you can bet your rear end they will throw personal and backer money at a lawsuit against a former employee. A court is a frightening place against someone who will do anything to ensure you cannot work in the video games industry ever again.

The best way is as it stands: Verified bombshells from protected sources from time to time, that stack up as evidence against CIG until such time someone turns it into a full fledged shitstorm lawsuit with CIG as the defendant. Or until CIG does something REALLY stupid, and the worm turns completely.

spacetoaster posted:

This makes me legit uncomfortable.